Jonah Goldberg: Dems say opposing Obama is racism, Krugman "bangs his spoon on his high chair every week about this"
September 01, 2009 10:38 pm ET
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Democrats took back Congress in 2006 and the presidency in 2008 in no small part because of their ability to bang their spoons on their high chairs about what they called the Republican "culture of corruption."
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That said, it would be very nice indeed if all the liberals banging their spoons on their high chairs about the ad took a moment to reflect on what they've let slip by without much comment.
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Anti-globalization activists will pound their recycled spoons on their recycled high-chairs all day about the need for the U.N. to replace the U.S. in almost every international crisis, be it political or environmental.
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I'm sorry to pick on those two titans of what Don Rumsfeld calls "Old Europe," especially considering the fact that all of official Germany and France are banging their spoons on their high chairs about this (entirely accurate) description.
Libertarians Under My Skin, 2 March 2001
In the last couple weeks three different Lewrockwell.com-ers have banged their spoons on their high chairs about me.
These were all found on the first page of a Google search for "Jonah Goldberg spoon high chair," and I've seen a number more of these, but I didn't want to drag this out too much.
I don't know, is it some kind of running joke that Goldberg has, or is he just not creative enough to think of a new, subtle way to call Democrats and liberals (and, at one point, libertarians) babies?
Krugman replaced the spoon with a freakin' Nobel prize.
I might add that Paul Krugman has more intellect and integrity in the tip of just one pinkie finger than Jonah has in his entire body and most of the Fox Noise circus combined!
But this high chair-spoon could just be a fetish-inspired catch phrase, like Limbaugh's "bend over and grab your ankles" or Lou Costello's "I'm a bad boy!".
When his mommy writes him a new one.
The birthers aren't racist at all, either. And it's just a coincidence that all of the Tea Baggers are white.
And Jonah is 100 percent correct: Even though health industry shills are literally trying to shout politicians down at town hall meetings, the Obama administration has absolutely no right to respond strongly.
Thanks for enlightening me about Democrats' evil plans, Jonah!
We do say, though, that these Republican officials are complicit in generating misguided opposition opposition to Obama's and the Democrats' plans and policies.
The idiots who showed up at "town halls" this summer couldn't have cared less about health care reform or any other issue. They were looking for a forum and a camera so they could yell "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE!" "HE'S A MUSLIM!" AND "I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!"
Need proof?
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Jonah Goldberg is a compulsive liar who wouldn't know a fact if it was handed to him on a silver platter. Like these, for instance.
That's about the depth of it, EW.
1. Since I've seen exactly zero instances of mainstream Dems accusing critics of Obama as being racists, what the hell is Goldberg talking about?
2. Since I've seen exactly zero instances of Krugman accusing critics of racism (much less every week), what the hell is Goldberg talking about?
Why, just look at Joe Scarborough, that former liberal Democrat Congressman from the liberal Florida panhandle. He was an acolyte of liberal House Speaker Newt Gingrich and does nothing on the air but spout liberal talking points provided to him by the liberal Democrat National Committee. Yup MSNBC is EXACTLY the opposite of Fox -- all liberals and no conservatives on MSNBC.
I'm repeating myself, but wingnuts have a really tough time with the concept of a double standard.
There's a distinction there, Bigbee. There are some mainstream Dems pointing out that some critics of Obama are racist (I don't know if I'd use the word "accused", it's like accusing mice of liking cheese).
Where Goldberg gets confused is the same place where so many posters at this site get confused, convincing themselves that simply disagreeing with Obama gets them accused of racism.
It's tough to explain to people who don't see racism until somebody's screaming the N word and burning a cross.
Exaclty...I know the type. They don't consider themselves racists because they don't burn crosses or us the "N" word in public. But they can't stand even being around black people.
Most of the people who don't understand racism, incidentally, are racists themselves.
a) The overt racist who tells racist jokes and uses racial epitaphs routinely.
b) The closet racist who appears normal to most folks(except you, Col.)but use their racist bigotry when they vote or shop.
c) The good natured racist who tells everyone how open they are to 'other cultures' and 'marvel at the genius of Obama' and 'support affirmative action' because the black man 'needs a helping hand' because he is unable to do it without help(this is the category you fit into, Col.).
d) Republicans and conservatives
Lord of Light's last sentence will explain why you may not have gotten both answers.
Pardon me, when you suggested weeding out those nasty racists by categorizing them, I assumed you were saying let's categorize the racists, since there was no other subject in your comment that the pronoun "them" could have applied to.
I made the mistake of reading your words in English. My bad.
NObody on the left has suggested that all cons/repubs are racist simply because they're cons/repubs, it's just noted that there is a lot of racism showing up on the right, and it seems to be very comfortable there.
Nobody has substantiated Goldberg's claim, but you're joining him in defending the racists by saying that the charges are made simply because of political ideology.
That's the theme of this thread, that Goldberg is FOS, and you're buying what Goldberg's selling.
How many other presidents were black?
(hint - both answers are between 0 and 0)
Face it, racism is a mainly a trait of the nutjob teabaggers who can't swallow the fact that the black man is in the White House. How else do explain the irrational hatred of a president who has been in office SEVEN MONTHS.
Cue crying town hall teabaggin' woman: "I want my country back! (from the black man)
Cue another crying town hall teabaggin' woman: "This isn't the America I remember" (due to the black man occupying the White House)
And then, please tell us why this isn't the America she remembers?
What has changed in the last SEVEN MONTHS?
(hint - the black man is in the White House)
This isn't the America she remembers because it's now socialist?
So, in 7 months, Obama has turned the apple pie capitalist US into a socialist state? Wow, must have missed that. Unless you can provide some details/examples of Obama's socialist policies....
No sale. It's racism. Try again.
What he INTENDS to do? That's fear, my friend. Nothing but unsubstantiated fear.
Please explain Obama's "socialist" history.
Now to your socialism paranoia:
Government run health care - the government will run health care just like the insurance companies are running health care. They'll pay the doctors and hospitals just like the insurance companies but they WON'T under-insure or fail to renew policies.
Government run auto industry - the government is not running the auto industry.
Government controlled banking system - the government is not controlling (yes, regulating) the banking system.
Government controlled housing policy - the government is not controlling housing. (How is that possible, anyway?)
Obama is not a socialist. His policies are not socialist. You've bought into the hate radio lies.
So, if it's not socialism, then who do the crying teabaggers want their country back from?
That's right. It's the black man sitting with his feet up on the desk in the Oval Office at the White House.
Wow, it's like you're time traveling all over the place in your comment, Pup.
It,s nothing that's happened, it's what's going to happen, because Obama has a history of his plans for the future.
Almost as bizarre as conservatives citing Orwell.
Exactly! And that's why we need to take our country back from what hasn't happen because it was planned a long time ago to happen far off in the future if we don't fight it so it doesn't get here then or now.
It would be a little hard to back up, though. You're the one that's always here defending the racists, and pretending that racism isn't prevalent among Republicans, and imagining that accusations of racism are just some political play.
I won't try to talk you out of that, if it makes you feel good to believe it. I'll take this bit;
When you indicate to our president that his policies are a-ok and that the ONLY reason you are encountering opposition is because you are half-black...
I don't think I've heard anybody say that the only reason Obama is facing opposition is because of his race, so that's the strawman you need to get over.
But you've combined your strawman with the other part (When you indicate to our president that his policies are a-ok) without being clear about who is indicating this.
People who support his policies, I assume? Again, nobody's saying race is the only reason people oppose Obama. I'm sure there are people with real, rational differences based on their ideology.
Unfortunately, we don't see much of them, as the right seems focused on Kenyan birth certificates, imaginary commies, protecting corporate profits by misinforming about health care, and terrorist fist bumps, not to mention the time spent photoshopping Obama's face onto tribal Africans' bodies and making bumper stiuckers that say "It's the White House !!"
So I'd suggest you get to work on some sort of point that's free of logical fallacies. But I won't hold my breath.
Name the last president that went through this much hate from the opposing party in the first 7 months in office. Name the last president that had his citizenship questioned. Name the last president to be called a fascist, communist and a socialist.
Once again, no, nobody is substantiating Goldberg's claim.It's a cheap trick meant to pre-empt people noticing racism,and to mollify covert racists, and you're falling for it.
He is inexperienced. True, but he is MORE experienced than Dubya, not to mention, he was a success in life while Dubya was an abject failure at everything he ever die. How'd that work out for the country?
He is clearly manipulated by Nancy Pelosi. LIE #2.
It's nothin' but sour grapes, pup. Elections matter. Obama should be given a chance. If he fails, then you can vote him out. Until then, QUIT WHINING about debunked lies.
How can anybody fair minded not notice this has happened since the campaign.Even Obama's "Bitter" comments was a defense of those type voters based on divisive politics over possible racism.He has gone out of his way not to use racism in his defense of his policies.There is more subtle racism as well ..like the Birther Movement,socialist/communist attacks.If everything was the same and his father was from a European country would the birth certificate nonsense get spewed.Why wasn't Bush called a socialist for his Mediucare presciption bill(600 Million dollars)or Clinton when healthcare was pushed the last time.Would anybody say the Obama Agenda was about Reparations if he was white? All these are elements of a racial component of the opposition.Nobody questioned George Bush's salary,or vacation time..even though he was spending and building huge deficits!!!To deny that a significant portion(NOT ALL) of the opposition is racially motivated is delusional or at least naive. What is even more hypocritical is how quickly the President,The 1st Lady,Rev.Wright,Dr Gates and Justice Sotomayor got called racist for infinitely more benign racial comments by these same people.
Fair-minded people can't, SMTDL. Only the true believers can be convinced that the teabaggers' hysteria is only concerned with policy. They have den mothers like Goldberg telling them that if anybody notices the racism from right wingers, it's the same thing as saying that any opposition to Obama is race-based.
Exhibit A is the poster above who has convinced himself that there's some sort of socialist takeover going on, in spite of reality , so his fear can't possibly have anything to do with racism.