Fox Business' Payne: You can "connect the dots and say, well, this sounds like a death panel ... it's up to interpretation"
September 02, 2009 8:22 am ET
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Unfortunately, you can show right wingers exactly what these provisions say, disproving their wild interpretations, and they'll say Obama is lying. You can't win with these people.
Well, guess what? Not everything is subject to interpretation.
If Payne says the sky is green and Mr. X says the sky is blue, the ensuing story will be "Payne says green, X says blue, the controversy continues." The media will not do what any sane person would -- look at the sky for himself, enlist the aid of experts to help him determine the color of the sky, investigate whether one side has an ulterior motive for making a false claim... The headline will be "X disputes Payne sky claim" when it ought to be "Payne lies about color of sky."
Not all issues and questions have two sides. Not all points of view are equally credible. There are such things as facts, which can be KNOWN, not felt or believed or interpreted.
Guess Rush and Cheney got lucky.
I give u, who is this guy.
Funny how not serving in the military is such a big issue for conservatives but not at all important for libs. I guess some people like you connect the dots any way they want.
Obama didn't need to serve, since there was no draft, and no requirement to serve in the military. He did have other priorities, like attending Harvard Law School.
Not serving in the military, for conservatives, has everything to do with the chickenhawk mentality. As in, war mongering, while never having actually served time in a uniform, and then talking bad about people who have (about their military records, Cleland, Kerry, Gore, Murtha to name a few).
Al Gore volunteered for the Army and served in Vietnam. His time in uniform is laughed at by conservatives who say he was "just a journalist" and "came home early." Never mind that he didn't have to serve at all because he could have gotten a draft deferment, and he didn't have to go to Vietnam, because his father's status as a US Senator could have guaranteed him a more pleasant assignment.
Max Cleland lost both legs and an arm in an accident right before he was ready to come from Vietnam. It happened after he volunteered for one last combat mission, having already been decorated for valor. Another soldier on the same helicopter dropped a grenade, which exploded near Cleland. His reward for his dedicated service and the injuries he incurred was to be mocked by the likes of Ann Coulter as a guy who injured himself negligently while drunk, and to have his patriotism questioned by Saxby Cahmbliss, a draft dodger who is one of the most lazy, dishonest and incompetent individuals to ever grace the Senate.
John Kerry received the Silver Star, the Bronze STar with "V" for valor and three Purple Hearts, and gets mocked by Purple Heart ban-aids and TV ads, books and web sites that ere lies about his Navy career from beginning to end.
Iraq and Afghanistan veterans speak out against the current US wars, draft dodger Rush Limbaugh insults them as "phony soldiers," and then alters his tapes and transcripts in an effort to cover it up.
I don't want to hear another word from conservatives about who's a real veteran and who isn't.
Not according to this.
http://www.geocities.com/cmcofer/clinton.html
So he showed up for his mational guard duty? What rank did he achieve while in the guard? And why did Carter pardon him?
His birth date ended up corresponding to a high number in the ensuing lottery, meaning that he would never be drafted. Secure in this knowledge, he backed out of his plan to join the ROTC.
The difference between Clinton and some others, in my mind, is that he was up front about this. He always made clear that he had been against the Vietnam war, that he'd planned to join ROTC so as not to be drafted, that his birth date resulted in a high draft number, and that he decided not to enlist and not to go through with his ROTC plan.
At a minimum, he gets points for consistency -- unlike some certain conservatives, he didn't SAY he supported the war but then spend all his time trying to evade the draft or join a National Guard unit he knew wouldn't deploy.
Yes and he gets points for consistency, he disageed with the war and the draft so it was OK to evade. Inagine if we could all pick the laws we wanted to obey. Great system you obviously approve of.
They should be recalled to explain why their theory went wrong.
Since I live in Pittsburgh, we'll be the first to know about the one world government as opposed to that old two world government.
Off-topic but Quinns' Phony Christian sidekick, Radio Rose said the other day while bashing Ted Kennedy that she felt "cleansed" by his death.
Rosie, nothing could clean your phony christian soul.
Go back to watching your 24 reruns.
Rendition under shrub and rendition under Obama have a number of different meanings.
If you have some difficulty rememberring how most of us feel about warrentless wiretapping, then you really arn't reading most of us at all.
Some disappointment yes. Curiously I don't think anyone has pointed out how supporting neocon republicans will make it all better.