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"Silly season": Morning Joe crew criticizes "angry voices" for bashing Obama's stay-in-school speech

September 04, 2009 8:58 am ET

From the September 4 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:

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Scarborough blasts right-wing conspiracy theories

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    • Author by twseattle (September 04, 2009 9:05 am ET)
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      Common sense. Won't last.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (September 04, 2009 9:22 am ET)
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      I love Katty Kay and the Beeb! I first saw Katty last summer on the Charlie Rose Show. She's great, and so is Charlie. And thank you Joe for pointing this out on your show. Please keep up the good work.
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      • Author by John Paradox (September 04, 2009 9:44 pm ET)
           
        I need more caffeine .. I thought that was "Wally and The Beav" when I read it.
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    • Author by robinpat (September 04, 2009 9:28 am ET)
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      Don't worry the old Joe is still there. This Joe, who sees the President now as trying to be bi-partisan and fighting to the middle by going back on certain positions, won't be there for long. The real Joe, you know the one who said Obama was making the country less safe and was just trying to appease the left, will be back next week.
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      • Author by MickD (September 05, 2009 3:52 am ET)
           
        I agree. Especially since his "presidential" aspirations have been made public. His "reasonableness" in the face of that seems strategic.
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    • Author by dmhack (September 04, 2009 9:31 am ET)
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      I still say the perfect solution is to get Rush to talk to all the kids not allowed to see the president by the idiot parents.
      The dimwitted parents would be happy and after 10 minutes of listening to Rush, the kids would vote Democratic for the rest of their lives.
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      • Author by Lane (September 04, 2009 9:52 am ET)
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        The dimwitted parents would be happy and after 10 minutes of listening to Rush, the kids would vote Democratic for the rest of their lives.


        If they survive that long.
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        • Author by princeofwheels (September 04, 2009 10:30 am ET)
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          Rush probably wouldn't need Viagra with all those young bo......never mind, I was going to say boys around but as Hannity says, I just won't say it.
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    • Author by johnnr2 (September 04, 2009 10:29 am ET)
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      It appears "reasonable" because no one brought up the elephant in the room - racism. If Joe were confronted with this, he would have responded as he has in the past, with denial.
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      • Author by puppienrainbows (September 04, 2009 11:39 am ET)
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        I knew we could count on some imbecile to bring race into the topic. Congratulations.
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        • Author by foghornleghorn (September 04, 2009 11:47 am ET)
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          It's not socialism, because Obama's not a socialist and has not enacted any socialist programs. It's not partisanship, because staying in school is decidedly non-partisan.

          It's racism. The Rethugs don't want their children to see a rational, well-spoken black man. If it's not racism, then what is it?
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          • Author by Brabantio (September 04, 2009 11:52 am ET)
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            It's not partisanship, because staying in school is decidedly non-partisan.
            That doesn't really follow. It should be non-partisan, but that doesn't mean that conservative jackasses are in any way prohibited from making the criticism. Environmental concerns should be non-partisan as well, but they clearly aren't anymore.
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          • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (September 05, 2009 3:44 pm ET)
               
            Foghorn, why can't you libruls get it through your thick skulls?? Let me help;

            Questioning everything the first African American president does, his American-ness, faking a Kenyan birth certificate, describing him as a thug, believing he's a Muslim (or Muslin), pundits assuming everybody who voted for him did so only because he's black, none of these things can possibly have any element of racism, because the N word is never said out loud.

            Noticing these things, though, is racist.

            And whenever racism (the elephant in the room, as Johnnr2 called it above) is mentioned, the same handful of racism-hating right wing posters (who have told everybody very clearly that they're not racist) will pop up to call out these lefty racists for daring to notice any overt or covert racism.

            The people on the radio and tv spend a lot of time and effort placating their slow-witted wingnuts by explaining to them that racism can't exist without blatant racial slurs. Do you understand how upsetting that must be to have the lights turned onto that thing that they've been trained to not see?
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          • Author by Boxer1979 (September 05, 2009 4:13 pm ET)
               
            It called Racism with a little ignorance with it.

            Joe does this alot on his show. He agrees then disagrees, but at least he the one in a many of people who thinks what Obama is doing is great.
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    • Author by HumblePie (September 04, 2009 10:30 am ET)
         
      Joe's playing Mr. Moderate. Something's up.
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    • Author by manofmystique (September 04, 2009 10:33 am ET)
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      What took so long for a Republican to ask his fellow man to "grow up?". Hell, this foolishness been goin on every since Obama said he was seeking the Presidency.
      Anyone with common sense would know that the Republicans have done enough damage to last a life-time.
      With their childish behavior Republicans should NEVER, I repeat, NEVER hold a position of power again.
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    • Author by princeofwheels (September 04, 2009 10:41 am ET)
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      Joe, they get it. You don't understand that they have been swept up in the continuous hype of the haters...Rush, Seannie, Savage..
      They have taken their nonsense to the highest level of hate possible. The next step is calling Obama the N-word or just putting a bounty on his head.
      We cannot forget that one of those nice "republicans" murdered Dr. Tiller. They are well aware that Billy Joe Bob Johnson may want to be a hero for the PARTY and take a shot at the President or someone in a lofty position.

      I wonder how the Limbaughs' or Hannitys' of the world would like to hear on the radio and TV on a daily basis that they must be stopped by going after their advertisers..when that doesn't work, their heads on a platter but only by a stealthy inferrence.
      If something terrible happens to this President, Limbaugh and the gang will have to go into hiding. Do they think that "libs" are so cowardly that they won't go after them.

      For heavens sake Rush et al., please think about what you are doing. If you feel you are doing it for America, not money HA!,t if something happens, there is an ultra-left that may visit you. If you need to use hate to incite people, you have lost the battle and the morals of the GOP.
      And America will fail but not due to Obama, but because of your hate.
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      • Author by puppienrainbows (September 04, 2009 12:13 pm ET)
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        You and others on this website seem to be the only ones talking about violence to the president, as though you were purposely cajoling someone to take that kind of action to justify your position. I honostly believe you HOPE someone does that so that you can infuriate yourself and point a crooked finger at ALL conservatives and so-called 'hate talk radio'. MMfa seems to have mastered the art of congregating liberal squirrel-jobs on a convenient webpage for all to witness.
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        • Author by Brabantio (September 04, 2009 12:23 pm ET)
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          If you're going to criticize the left for attributing racism as a motive for right-wing criticism, then maybe you shouldn't accuse liberals of wanting someone to be killed for the sake of political convenience. Fair enough?
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          • Author by puppienrainbows (September 04, 2009 12:34 pm ET)
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            That doesn't make any sense, brab. It's the left who continually bring race into the discussion and make these tepid accusations that the right 'obstructs' Obama because he is half black. And, we have the perfect example of what I am saying in the post above (princeofwheelies). I've yet to hear any conservative of any proportions talking about violence towards Obama as a remedy for his comical policies, only from the left. Kinda makes ya wonder.
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            • Author by snoopy (September 04, 2009 12:51 pm ET)
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              There have been plenty examples of the right making veiled threats, and a few examples of rightwing extremests acting on those veiled threats. Tiller the baby killer and the holocaust museum are two perfect examples of unhinged right wing loons acting on the veiled threats that right wing talking heads make. You just refuse to believe it because your tacit approval of the message would mean you partially approve of those acts of violence against left leaning people. So stop crying and denying, it's happening and you putting your hands over your ears and shouting lalalalalala doesn't cover up the truth.
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            • Author by Brabantio (September 04, 2009 12:55 pm ET)
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              Of course you haven't heard any conservative talking about violence. The point is that the rhetoric is out of control. What did Beck say the other day? "The Republic is under attack" or some nonsense? He said that there was a "coup" in the "guise of an election". All the socialist and communist idiocy combined with all this garbage and it paints a pretty grim picture, don't you think? You don't think that sort of speech has any effect on anybody? Come on.

              As for what I said, it made perfect sense. If you're going to criticize people for attributing motives, then don't do it yourself. I don't see what's unclear about that.
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            • Author by bintx (September 04, 2009 2:48 pm ET)
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              Actually, no, it's people like you, with your racist attitude, bringing race into the mix. Yes, Obama is "half black," but in the eyes of society, he is black.

              I'll say again, you are no conservative. Hatred, ridicule and racism isn't conservatism. You're just a Fox junkie. There is NO conservatism on Fox.
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            • Author by Boxer1979 (September 05, 2009 4:19 pm ET)
                 
              I think I can remember Glen Beck advocating on his radio talk show that he wanted to choke Michael Moore, or telling his un-intellegent listeners that he wanted to hit people in the head with a shovel. It might not be Obama but it is close because he is talking about members of congress.
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        • Author by worrierking (September 04, 2009 12:33 pm ET)
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          Explain how it's the left wishing the president harm when some right wing whack job shows up at a presidential event with a loaded gun and a sign reading "it's time to water the tree of liberty"?

          Jefferson's original quote spoke of watering with the blood of tyrants and patriots. Which do you think the coward with the gun meant?

          Yet people like yourself defend these idiots.
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          • Author by puppienrainbows (September 04, 2009 12:37 pm ET)
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            Show me where I defended someone like that or shut the f up. You're blowing smoke.
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            • Author by snoopy (September 04, 2009 12:53 pm ET)
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              such brave words, almost livid even! Methinks king just hit close to the truth...
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              • Author by puppienrainbows (September 04, 2009 2:36 pm ET)
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                "methinks" is a grandios self-entitlement. Since you chimed in on worrierqueen's trip back in time, tell me where I've defended any kind of violence towards anybody, for that matter.
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                • Author by bintx (September 04, 2009 2:51 pm ET)
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                  "I honostly believe you HOPE someone does that so that you can infuriate yourself and point a crooked finger at ALL conservatives and so-called 'hate talk radio'. MMfa seems to have mastered the art of congregating liberal squirrel-jobs on a convenient webpage for all to witness."

                  You are defending the "so-called 'hate talk radio.'" They are hate talk radio. They spew hatred non-stop. They encourage people who are crazy enough to show up with a gun and T-shirt IDENTICAL to the one that Timothy McVeigh was wearing when he was picked up following the OKC bombing.
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                • Author by worrierking (September 04, 2009 3:53 pm ET)
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                  You've beaten me. How can I respond when you've questioned my manhood? I'll never be able to hold my head up again.

                  Well done.

                  I'll bet you were really something when you were in third grade.
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                  • Author by Brabantio (September 04, 2009 4:03 pm ET)
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                    I'll bet you were really something when you were in third grade.
                    They were the best four years of his life.

                    Sorry, I just had to beat ETRW to that one.
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            • Author by worrierking (September 04, 2009 12:59 pm ET)
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              You're the one claiming only the left talks about violence towards the president.

              And I'm saying that the cowardly gun zealot implied that President Obama is either a tyrant or a patriot. I'm assuming the guy's not a leftist and that he wasn't implying that the president is a patriot.

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              • Author by Brabantio (September 04, 2009 1:04 pm ET)
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                And I'm saying that the cowardly gun zealot implied that President Obama is either a tyrant or a patriot. I'm assuming the guy's not a leftist and that he wasn't implying that the president is a patriot.
                I don't think there's much room for an alternate interpretation. The tyrant is the one with the power, and the patriots are the ones challenging that power.
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        • Author by foghornleghorn (September 04, 2009 1:20 pm ET)
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          I honostly believe you HOPE someone does that so that you can infuriate yourself and point a crooked finger at ALL conservatives and so-called 'hate talk radio'. - pup

          Martyrdom is a wholly owned subsidiary of the nutjobs. Try again.
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          • Author by puppienrainbows (September 04, 2009 2:41 pm ET)
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            Well, if you say so, but then you don't have an ounce of sense. You've proven that time and time again.
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            • Author by bintx (September 04, 2009 2:53 pm ET)
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              I wouldn't be pointing fingers. You spew the false rhetoric you hear on Fox and hate talk radio and call yourself a "conservative." I know conservative, I am a conservative and you, sir, are NO conservative.
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            • Author by foghornleghorn (September 04, 2009 4:37 pm ET)
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              Well, I do have the sense not to be a racist. Unlike these hatemongers on the radio and their apologists like you.
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        • Author by bintx (September 04, 2009 2:46 pm ET)
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          You know, there have been at least three so-called "Conservative Christian" ministers praying for Obama's death, there have been showing up with guns at presidential speeches, there has been hate speech nonstop on Fox and on talk radio for MONTHS . . . as has been noted, there have already been instances of people committing violent crimes while citing things they've heard on Fox as their stimulation for same.

          I'm PRAYING that he's not harmed and that advertisers will stop advertising on the hate channels . . . disagreement is one thing. Inciting violence is something completely different.

          And, I'll head you off at the pass . . . I'm no more a liberal than you are a conservative. Just because you hate Obama doesn't mean you are a conservative.
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        • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 05, 2009 8:29 am ET)
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          "You and others on this website seem to be the only ones talking about violence to the president, as though you were purposely cajoling someone to take that kind of action to justify your position. I honostly believe you HOPE someone does that so that you can infuriate yourself and point a crooked finger at ALL conservatives and so-called 'hate talk radio'. MMfa seems to have mastered the art of congregating liberal squirrel-jobs on a convenient webpage for all to witness." - puffinrainbows

          Oh, man. This is what has become of the once conservative movement. First, you attack the left for crying racism (which I would not always diagree with - I do not always see racism in all the places the left does) but then you go on to accuse them of inciting murder. You think the left has gone too far when they accuse the right of racism, but you accusing them of wanting Obama attacked violently is not too far? Since, you decry their use of racism for lack of evidence (even though we all know that racism is never that simple) please show us your evidence that the left wants Obama violently attacked. I am sure you have this evidence, otherwise you would just be a partisan hack not worth anyone's time. Right?
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        • Author by Boxer1979 (September 05, 2009 4:14 pm ET)
             
          Fail!
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        • Author by jediknight65 (September 06, 2009 2:57 pm ET)
             
          ummmm and whom is it that glenn beck supports? when he said the government was coming to take your guns?
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    • Author by only_myschly3567 (September 04, 2009 11:40 am ET)
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      At least he's sensible once a month. Most conservative pundits seem to be sensible once a year, if even that.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (September 04, 2009 12:28 pm ET)
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      Again, this is why Joe's my favorite conservtaive. I don't often agree with his positions, but he usually at leats makes sense, and rarely goes off the deep end with the crazy.
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    • Author by mustardman (September 04, 2009 1:52 pm ET)
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      This is just a distraction so people don't talk about the police report found that shows Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990.
      http://allspinzone.com/wp/2009/09/03/why-wont-glenn-beck-deny-it/
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      • Author by funnymanpants (September 04, 2009 3:06 pm ET)
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        >>This is just a distraction so people don't talk about the police report found that shows Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990.

        Great link! That's pretty funny.
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      • Author by worrierking (September 04, 2009 7:39 pm ET)
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        Thanks for the link.

        While I'm not the kind of guy who believes outlandish rumors, I've got to wonder why Beck hasn't denied this yet.

        The case is as neatly tied up as any of the theories that Glenn spins nightly, so I'm now asking myself, could the rumors be true?
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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (September 05, 2009 3:30 pm ET)
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          I've seen more than once on the internets that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990, and I have yet to see any deniual of this by Beck. Of course, this doesn't prove that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990, but it does raise some serious questions.
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        • Author by ajzito (September 06, 2009 10:35 am ET)
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          Right. It's not that I believe the vicious rumor that GLEN BECK RAPED AND MURDERED A GIRL, but I have to wonder - why doesn't he deny it, or give a credible account of HIS WHEREABOUTS ON THE NIGHT OF THE CRIME? His reasons ARE UNKNOWN. HE IS of course, innocent until proven GUILTY!

          (Rad just the words in caps to see the craftily concealed accusation hidden in this innocent-looking statement. It's about time we on the left became masters of innuendo, like those subtle hate radio guys on the right.)

          PS: Quite a few visitors to the GLEN BECK RAPED AND MURDERED A GIRL website appear to have missed it's satirical intent...amazing!
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