Maddow mocks Fox News' czar fixation
September 08, 2009 10:36 pm ET
From the September 8 edition of MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show:
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There is no one smarter who reports on the political news of the day than this beautiful human!
I watch her, KO, Stewart, and Colbert! I have given up on all other news, except on rare occasions and every so often I'll watch the local stuff and always the sports!!
This particular piece is a brilliant example of taking criticism of Obama and his "unconstitutional" policies and showing how Bush had done the same thing...making Republicans look like the hypocrites they are...gently guiding the brain-dead viewers away from the inconvenient question: "should ANY of our presidents be doing this?"
Roughly half of the so-called czars were approved by congressional committee. Half of the remaining "czars" are holdovers from the Bush administration.
This is neither new nor is it nefarious. It is pure fabrication.
Bush had 35 "czar" positions with 45 total people who filled those seats.
Obama has 31 "czar" positions with 34 total people who have filled those seats.
Granted, this is an incomplete list, but has Obama doubled the number of "czars"? Let's not forget that some of these "czar" positions do not last the entire presidency or do not get carried over into the next presidency. Some are even temporary for emergencies such as Katrina.
And, yes, Karl Rove was a "czar".
But I'm delivering the news.
Considering this is a made-up controversy and the title "czar" is a made-up media title for the advisors, why is it you frown at citations that aren't "serious"?
Am I getting closer to a real source?
Your statement was that Obama doubled the number of czars. Please show us where you get your information.
The White House has a freaking budget, genius. It hires as many people as it is budgetted to hire. The only legal requirement is that Cabinet members are approved by the Senate.
These "czars" are filling positions that the Bush administration created or continued from the Clinton administration.
We are not the ones making stupid claims (or taking the word of dimbulbs like Hannity and Beck).
You prove it is otherwise or take your ill-infoemd opinion somewhere where they will pay attention to idiocy. Try FoxNation.com.
Karl Rove was the Deputy Chief of Staff, Policy Adviser to the White House. this was a position that did not exist under Clinton and he was not approved by Congress. He was the "Policy Czar".
the only difference is that no-one made any stink about it back then. this is a non-issue, Stark.
Go cry.
http://pr.thinkprogress.org/
Check the Constitution, there's no authority for them, either.
He is a freaking Environmental Protection Agency Undersecretary of Great Lakes management and Improvement.
Get a grip.
http://data.bls.gov/map/servlet/map.servlet.MapToolServlet?survey=la
http://electoral-vote.com/
You will notice (perhaps - I guess I shouldn't assume you have any interpretive skills at all) that a disproportionate number of states with high unemployment rates are red states or leaning red.
More thin ice from the marginalised right.
Flight attendants and pilots, medical professionals, oil field roughnecks - these are three examples of people who work long shifts and have multiple days off during the week. Take your pick.
1. Abstinence Czar (Randal Tobias)
2. AIDS Czar (4 Czars: Scott Evertz, Joe O’Neill, Carol Thompson, Jeffrey Crowley)
3. Bank Bailout Czar (Neel Kashkari)
4. Bioethics Czar ( Leon Kass)
5. Bird flu Czar (Stewart Simonson)
6. Birth control czar (Erik Keroack)
7. Budget czar (3 Czars: Mitchell Daniels, Joshua Bolton, Rob Portman)
8. Clean Up Czar (2 Czars: Jessie Roberson & James Rispoli)
9. Communications Czar (Dan Bartlett)
10. Cyber Security Czar, Cyber Czar (2 Czars: Richard Clarke, Rod Beckstrom)
11. Democracy Czar (Elliott Abrams)
12. Domestic Policy Czar (Karl Rove)
13. Drug Czar (John P. Walters)
14. Faith-Based Czar, Faith Czar (4 Czars: Don Willett, John Dilulio, Jim Towey, Jay Hein)
15. Food Safety Czar (David W.K. Acheson)
16. Global AIDS Czar (2 Czars: Randall Tobias, Mark Dybul)
17. Health Czar for WTC, World Trade Center Health Czar (John Howard)
18. Health IT Czar (David Brailer)
19. Homeland Security Czar (Michael Chertoff)
20. Homeless Czar, Homelessness Czar (Phil Mangano)
21. Gulf Coast Reconstruction Czar, Hurricane Katrina Recovery Czar (Donald E. Powell)
22. Intelligence Czar (2 Czars: John Negroponte & John Michael McConnell)
23. Manufacturing Czar (2 Czars: Albert Frink & William G. Sutton)
24. Policy Czar (Micahel Gerson)
25. Public Diplomacy Czar (2 Czars: Karen Hughes & James Glassman)
26. Reading Czar (G. Reid Lyon)
27. Regulatory Czar (2 Czars: John D. Graham & Susan Dudley)
28. Science Czar (John Marburger)
29. Terrorism Czar (3 Czars: Richard A. Clarke, Wayne Downing, John O. Brennan)
30. War Czar (Douglas Lute)
POLITICO has compiled a wide-ranging list of President Barack Obama's various "czars." The bolded names were confirmed by Congress, and the italicized names are statutorily created positions created by Congress in legislation.
1. Afghanistan Czar - Richard Holbrooke
2. AIDS Czar - Jeffrey Crowley
3. Auto Recovery czar - Ed Montgomery
4. Border Czar - Alan Bersin
5. Car Czar - Ron Bloom
6. Central Region Czar - Dennis Ross
7. Domestic Violence Czar - Lynn Rosenthal
8. Drug Czar - Gil Kerlikowske
9. Economic Czar - Paul Volcker
10. Energy and Environment Czar - Carol Browner
11. Faith-Based Czar - Joshua DuBois
12. Great Lakes Czar - Cameron Davis
13. Green Jobs Czar - Van Jones (resigned on Sept. 6)
14. Guantanamo Closure Czar - Daniel Fried
15. Health Czar - Nancy-Ann DeParle
16. Information Czar - Vivek Kundra
17. International Climate Czar - Todd Stern
18. Mideast Peace Czar - George Mitchell
19. Pay Czar - Kenneth Feinberg
20. Regulatory Czar - Cass Sunstein *
21. Science Czar - John Holdren
22. Stimulus Accountability Czar - Earl Devaney - statutory position
23. Sudan Czar - J. Scott Gration
24. TARP Czar - Herb Allison
25. Terrorism Czar - John Brennan
26. Technology Czar- Aneesh Chopra
27. Urban Affairs Czar - Adolfo Carrion Jr.
28. Weapons Czar - Ashton Carter
29. WMD Policy Czar - Gary Samore
*Nomination was sent to Senate on April 20, no action yet taken
President Obama's 'Czars'...
(Hopefully Stark can find someone to read it to him.)
Not everyone who advises the President needs to be confirmed, actually most Presidential advisers are not confirmed by Congress.
And the inconvenient answer is "Yes", because we have yet to elect any man president who has the knowledge and experience to solely make decisions and projections regarding the evironment AND health care AND energy AND the budget AND housing AND economics AND trade policy AND technology AND...
Going without advice regarding specific fields of expertise is like performing nuclear fission experiments with Sarah Palin.
So, from the outset, with Fox, we see that they are liars.
Your boys are liars. Prove otherwise. Prove to me that they are fair, balanced, or news.
MSNBC, on the other hand, gives three hours over to Scarborough, and allows Chris Matthews to spout his particular and peculiar brand of BS for two full hours each day (including primetime).
Shep Smith is the only guy on Fox who even attempts to be fair or balanced - and he gets no more than 2 hours a day (and usually just one hour).
And we haven't even discussed the weekend. Fox spends the entirety of its weekend broadcasting ideologues: Beck, Wallace, Huckabee, etc. - while MSNBC devotes only one hour to a repeat of Meet the Press on Sunday.
There is really no comparison at all.
You just don't get it. MSNBC News is a division of MSNBC. Fox News is an entire cable network.
Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh et all, eh, not so much.
He has credibility.
He is a credible sports journalist.
(You loaded up the question, so I answered with a loaded answer.)
That's what you wanted us to say, and I told you that.
Does that alone destroy his credibility?
As far as credibility is concerned, you have to destroy belief in a majority of believers for credibility to be countered. Just getting me to admit that Keith is wrong about the statement isn't going to destroy his credibility. You'll have to get many more than just me.
Oh? And I still find him credible.
I'm willing to admit that MSNBC is not always right with their claims. Now, are you ready to admit the same with conservative pundits?
You tell me how these are blatantly racist. Keep in mind that much of what he is saying is, especially from the persective of an African American, very nearly true.
So, show me what he has said that has no element of truth and is "blatantly racist".
Time to put up or shut up. Every time anyone confronts you with facts you ignore them. so, let's get down to it, Stark. Tell me what he said that is "blatantly racist" (of course, realizing that this, too, is a subjective evaluation).
Was it this:
Nope, don't see it.
Or this:
Not blatant, if you ask me.
Maybe this:
Oh, wait, there are no other quotes that discuss race in America.
Your opinions are starting to smell.
And as far as the "severity" of the comments: Would you defend the minister who says he is openly praying for Obama's death or does he have the right to preach what he wants? Of course I don't see what Wright had to say being a big deal anyway, isn't Obama supposed to be the Muslim usurper? So why does a Christian pastor matter when he would listen to an Imam.
In the past year, Fox has been responsible for more American deaths on American soil than al Quaeda.
So, show me an opinion that I have represented as fact. Just one.
Seriously, how short is your memory? These are statements of fact even though they are clearly opinion.
So Fox can mock Obama's choices for directors with Russian music and "the Land of the Czars", but Rachel Maddow can't mock the mockery?
I REALLY hope this is sarcastic.
These positions (or positions like them) have always existed. The only difference is that no-one ever made a big deal about it. We can't possibly elect every advisor, nor can the Congress hold hearings on every appointment.
Here's to many more.
i wonder if that evil socialist bill clinton had any czars... hmmm.
Fox is just in a panic because they think they discovered this nefarious plot and that Obama is the only President who has had advisers.
Of course you can't throw these facts at the right cause they'll either deny it or they'll say that its not the same thing. Someone needs to do a background check on all of the czars that Bush had.
Ummmm when Rachel move to Fox and why is there an NBC logo above her head?
It should read: From the September 8 edition of MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show.
Wow. Seeing "Fox News' The Rachel Maddow Show" kind of gave me chills.
Not that her being on that network wouldn't be AWESOME. She'd class up the joint. It's just a shocking thought.