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Beck wants to know, "Who divided us?"

September 09, 2009 6:41 pm ET

From the September 9 edition of Fox News' The Glenn Beck Show:

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    • Author by snoopy (September 09, 2009 6:43 pm ET)
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      Really? You seriously have to wonder who it was? It was you, @$$hole, you and your reichwing talking head friends.
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    • Author by WhatImlost (September 09, 2009 6:45 pm ET)
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      I know the anwsers to this one:
      Rush Limbaugh
      Glenn Beck
      Sean Hannity
      Lou Dobbs
      Bill O'Reily
      FOX and Friends
      FOX
      FOX Nation
      Conservatives

      Thats the list of whos dividing us.
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      • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (September 09, 2009 6:59 pm ET)
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        That's the short list.

        Or, the Sh*t list, as the case may be.
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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (September 09, 2009 6:59 pm ET)
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        George w bush with his pronouncement ' either you are with us or with the terrorrists " thereby signalling the rest of the nutty fringe to do the same.
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      • Author by rms (September 09, 2009 9:09 pm ET)
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        Such a list must include Jerry Falwell and Newt Gingrich (his famous memo on how to refer to Republicans vs. Democrats).
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (September 09, 2009 6:45 pm ET)
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      LOL... Hmmm, let's see, Glenn...start with Lee Atwater and draw a straight line to Karl Rove.
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    • Author by magnolialover (September 09, 2009 6:46 pm ET)
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      Well, if you must ask Glenn, in our most recent history (90's onward) it all started round about 1994 when republicans took back the House and Senate in the mid terms. At that point in time, Gingrich, ruling with his iron/deformed claw declared that he would not work with democrats, and expected his fellow republicans to not be "chummy" with them at all. In other words, the most recent start to hyper-partisan ship was with Gingrich, and the proliferation of hate, oops, I mean, conservative talk radio after Reagan lifted the FD from existence.

      And today sir, you are one of the leaders of division with basically everything you do AND say.
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    • Author by toombsie (September 09, 2009 6:50 pm ET)
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      Well calling the President a "racist" with a "deep-seated hatred for white people" was definitely an attempt to bring American's together despite differences in ethnicity of political opinions. Beck is a perfect example of someone trying to unite the citizens to stand together and love one another.
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      • Author by LKL (September 10, 2009 6:29 pm ET)
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        Someone finally understands poor Glenn! :)

        Sadly, this probably is in fact what he thinks . . .
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    • Author by reanna-mator (September 09, 2009 6:50 pm ET)
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      What, did he break his mirror this morning?
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    • Author by bilbo_dies (September 09, 2009 6:57 pm ET)
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      Glenn Beck: "Who divided us?"

      Glenn,
      Go into bathroom,
      Look in mirror,
      The guy in the mirror is to blame.

      BTW If "Joe Six Pack" is making a decent wage, it is because he is a union member.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (September 09, 2009 7:04 pm ET)
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      Well, Glenn...isn't it obvious that the Marxist/Fascist/ Socialist without a birth certificate, Barack Obama, divided this country?
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    • Author by Max Credits (September 09, 2009 7:11 pm ET)
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      "They divided us between Republicans and Democrats!"

      Um.... Beck, fess up to the role you play on the TV and, more importantly, in the voting booth:

      BECK, GLENN LEE (DOB: 2/1964)
      State of Registration: Connecticut
      Party: REPUBLICAN

      Source: Lexis/Nexis

      Ha!
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    • Author by papa bear3 (September 09, 2009 7:50 pm ET)
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      The more I watch Beck I am trying to figure where I've seen him before, all those cartoonish gestures and eyeball rolling, and I finally figured it out. Just add blonde fuzzy sideburns and a blonde handlebar mustache, and you have .......Captain Kangaroo,

      my childhood memories have been ruined!!!!
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    • Author by MagCynic (September 09, 2009 8:07 pm ET)
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      It's funny how - according to sites like this - Republicans or conservatives are the bane of American existence and the cause of all things evil in this world while Democrats are the saints that were sent here from God to save us all.

      Really, though? Glenn Beck is dividing us? How does that work? I don't agree with MSNBC but I don't think that channel or those people are dividing anybody. Seriously, now, what are the mechanics that are happening when you all say conservatives are dividing us?
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      • Author by Max Credits (September 09, 2009 8:19 pm ET)
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        It's funny how you didn't answer Beck's question.
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      • Author by snoopy (September 09, 2009 8:20 pm ET)
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        Wow, quite a strawman there! You must have pushed real hard to get that one out. But hey, statements like "I want Obama to fail!" just don't ring a bell for you, right?
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        • Author by Max Credits (September 09, 2009 8:26 pm ET)
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          But but but Beck only claimed that the president has exposed himself over and over and over again a guy who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or white culture in an effort to unite us, not to divide us.
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        • Author by MagCynic (September 09, 2009 10:27 pm ET)
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          That quote does ring a bell actually. I remember when Rush was talking about how he wanted the policies of Obama to fail. You see, the policies of Barack Obama are antithetical to the policies of the Founding Fathers. The policies of the Founding Fathers were one of the main catalysts of the gigantic leap that took America from a nation of farmers to the most powerful, successful, freest nation on the face of the planet. Essentially Rush believed that the success of Obama's policies would be America's loss.
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 09, 2009 10:33 pm ET)
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            OK, Mag. So now you do remember who divided us?
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          • Author by tman418 (September 10, 2009 12:34 am ET)
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            America was actually a nation of farmers for quite awhile, long after the Founding Fathers died.

            Also, what proof do you conservatives have that the Founding Fathers would agree to everything on the Republican platform? You wave the Founding Fathers around as both a sword and a shield yet offer no proof that the Founding Fathers would want to break from this government.
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          • Author by skiploader1111 (September 10, 2009 3:02 am ET)
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            I hope someday you will realize that the only reason that America even achieved a large middle class is because of the liberal programs and regulations of the New Deal. Defecits get reduced under Democratic presidents. Defecits skyrocket under Republican presidents. Welfare programs actually help people pull themselves out of the bottom and eventually result in a productive population. Capitalism cannot function without socialism and vica versa.

            So many programs that exist now like Social Security, labor union reform in the New Deal, anti-trust laws, Medicare, progressive tax increases, regulations in many industries etc. The public in the time of implementation was told by conservatives that these laws would cripple and destroy America but in fact did the opposite.
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      • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (September 09, 2009 9:53 pm ET)
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        False equivalence.

        Will you see Rachel Maddow interview a Republican guest and give him a chance to articulate his views in a fair debate? Just ask Tom Ridge.

        Will you see Glenn Beck or Bill O'Reilly interview a Democratic guest and give him the same chance? I mean a REAL Democrat, and not one on Fox's payroll? Doubtful.

        Does MSNBC feature Republican hosts? Ask Joe Scarborough. Does Fox have a Democratic host? Nope.

        FAIL, MagCynic.
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        • Author by MagCynic (September 09, 2009 10:29 pm ET)
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          Failure on anyone responding to my post. I asked a simple question. What are the mechanics that are happening when you all say conservatives are dividing us? How does Glenn Beck divide us as a nation? How can we verify that HE is dividing us?
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 09, 2009 10:36 pm ET)
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            OK. I'll bite. What verification are you looking for? You want us to show you what Beck says that inspires division among Americans? You want us to show you what Fox News says and does to show their political opponents as not only incorrect in their difference of opinions, but as an evil force to be stopped? Do you really need us to show you these things? Or are you being purposefully obtuse in some childish attempt to pretend as if Beck and Limbaugh and their ilk do not appeal to our lowest common denominators in an attempt to divide us?
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            • Author by MagCynic (September 10, 2009 12:11 am ET)
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              I'm not trying to be smart or cheeky. It's just that people nowadays seem to get caught up in emotion so much that they say things without really thinking about what they are actually saying. So when I ask how Glenn Beck (or anybody on the right) divides this country, I mean exactly that.

              Let me start with a very basic argument concerning Beck. Whenever myself or another conservative states the fact that his show regularly pulls in twice the audience of Olbermann, the typical response is to say something like, "Well, even with his ratings he still only pulls in less than 1% of the population." This means he has relatively little influence in the population. So how can anybody say he is dividing this country? How does it work? What are the mechanics behind it?
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              • Author by pilotx (September 10, 2009 3:30 am ET)
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                The mechanics behind it started during Nixon's run for the W.H. in which he used the southern strategy to attract disaffected white voters to the Republican party and such divisive tactics have been used since to divide us by color. Reagan, Bush I, Bush Jr. and Sarah Palin used the same scheme. The religious right used abortion and other cultural issues to keep us divided. Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, Beck and O'Reilly use these issues without context or examination to keep us apart. I can't watch Fox or listen to these guys without feeling uneasy. They fan the flames of racial and religious hatred to keep a certain segment of the population voting against their own best interests. It's late but I can expound more with more detail later if you want but for homework google the "southern strategy", "Willie Horton", "welfare queen" and "states rights/ philadelphia mississippi".
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                • Author by MagCynic (September 10, 2009 12:11 pm ET)
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                  I could care less about Nixon. I want to know what Glenn Beck has said that has divided the entire country. You disagree with Beck. That's fine. Don't watch him. I disagree with Olbermann so I don't watch him. It's as simple as that. By that reasoning I can say that neither of them are dividing the country. By your reasoning though I can say that both of them are dividing the country. You can't apply two different standards.
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                • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 10, 2009 5:07 pm ET)
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                  You're wasting your time, Mike. My question was a real one and his answer makes it obvious. Mag really does not get it. He does not know what "divides us" means. He has no idea what Beck or even himself is talking about. He is confused. Luckily for him he has Beck around to explain these complicated things to him as if he were a child. I think the fact that he says, if you do not agree with someone then don't listen to them, says it all for me.
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          • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (September 09, 2009 10:51 pm ET)
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            Anyone encouraging people to show up at Congressmen's town halls to disrupt them as an intentional tactic, which is exactly what conservatives and Republican activists did according to their own memos, is by definition divisive.
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          • Author by PurpleState (September 10, 2009 10:21 am ET)
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            I think it's mostly us saying that Beck doesn't have the right to address us when he blames government for dividing us. I mean, I don't hear him talking about negotiation and work towards unity as a country.

            The guy wanted to wipe California off of the map.
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        • Author by jjamele2880 (September 09, 2009 10:35 pm ET)
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          Phil Hartmann has someone on from the Ayn Rand Institute, the Cato Institute, or the Heritage Foundation virtually EVERY PROGRAM. Ed Schultz gives lots of air time to people like Barrasso of Wyoming, and is always completely respectful in his disagreement. Maddow has conservatives on her show all the time, and is never anything close to rude.

          Hannity lets liberal callers on his show, and responds to information with "Oh, so you believe whatever Obama and Pelosi tell you, huh?" and hangs up. Mark Levin tells callers who disagree with him that they are "shmucks" and "idiots" and hangs up. Limbaugh takes virtually no calls from people who disagree with him at all.

          There's no equivalency. Progressive talkers listen to both sides and debate. Conservative talkers bloviate, then refuse to listen to opposing views or listen for a few seconds, sneer at the callers, and hang up, to make fun of them afterwards like the cowards they are. They have no confidence in their arguments, because their arguments are bumper sticker versions of talking-point lies. Period.
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          • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (September 09, 2009 10:49 pm ET)
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            Thom Hartmann, you mean.
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          • Author by diamonds (September 10, 2009 7:43 pm ET)
               
            When it comes to talk shows I don't expect someone of one ideology to argue with the other side for any reason other than exploring the topic or entertainment of yelling GET OFF MY PHONE.

            As for the fact that conservatives "refuse to listen to opposing views" see this study:
            Among the political blog readers, a similar trend emerged in which "liberals read almost exclusively liberal blogs, but conservatives tend to read both," Davis said.
            You could refute or try to explain that any way you want, but it disproves the notion that most people are closed minded robots, we simply like facts that support our position and ignore those that don't, and both sides do that.
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    • Author by mightymo (September 09, 2009 8:20 pm ET)
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      ...Spoken by the man with an introspection of a gnat!
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    • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (September 09, 2009 8:42 pm ET)
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      "But who, then, who?" Ahineev wondered, going over all his acquaintances in his mind and beating himself on the breast. "Who, then?"
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    • Author by ProgLib (September 09, 2009 9:27 pm ET)
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      hmmm, i dont know, glenny... that is a tough one. how about YOU?
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    • Author by wookie (September 09, 2009 9:39 pm ET)
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      Democrats gave us Joe Sixpack? Next you'll be blaming us for Hockey Mom.
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    • Author by SLRTX (September 09, 2009 10:07 pm ET)
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      Well, where to start? Where to start?

      How, 'bout this....

      We aren't leading the blind.

      We ARE the blind. We have allowed ourselves to be deflected from real issues for too long.

      We have ceded our responsibilities as Americans to self-serving politicians, who tell us what we want to hear, and not what we need to hear.

      We have set the agenda for Washington to focus on gay marriage, bans on flag burning, school prayer, abortion limits and teaching creationism in schools. These issues have no real value in what matters most.

      We have lost our focus on the real issues like, HC reform, reducing gov't waste, accountability on Wall St., etc.

      WE are the problem. Not Washington. Because WE have allowed our politicians to get this way.

      AND folks like Glenn Beck aren't doing us any favors by deflecting attention away from the real issues, and playing the ignorant among us like patsies. In the past, his type would be tarred and feathered & run out of town on a rail. (Look it up, it wasn't pleasant.)

      I believe it is the patriotic duty of every American to understand the facts of any issue, and base their positions accordingly. In that capacity, Glenn Beck has not served you well.
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      • Author by mightymo (September 09, 2009 11:23 pm ET)
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        Hear, Hear...

        The noise out there is just that, a deflection from the real issues, those that confound our country.

        Keep your Eye on the Ball
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 10, 2009 5:10 pm ET)
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        Well said, SLRTX. You are exactly correct. In a democratic representative republic the people get exactly what they deserve. Our leaders are exactly as stupid and as patronizing as we accept them to be.
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    • Author by PurpleState (September 10, 2009 10:45 am ET)
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      The whole thing we should be taking away from this needs to be made crystal clear.

      If Glenn Beck is going to blame politicians for being in the pocket of lobbyists, he himself is going to have to admit that he was in Phil Kerpen's pocket during the Van Jones smear-hunt.
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    • Author by LKL (September 10, 2009 6:28 pm ET)
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      By the way, since when is supporting unions and supporting Joe Six-Pack mutually exclusive?
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      • Author by diamonds (September 10, 2009 7:46 pm ET)
           
        Unions increase the cost of labor, it is as simple as that. It may be great for the worker getting paid (and they have every right to petition their employer for higher wages), but try telling that to the unemployed person who has to pay higher prices on food or other commodities, and can't find a job because more employers require "skilled labor" than otherwise would.
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