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Limbaugh: I "wish [Joe Wilson] had not" apologized, "that was a blatant lie"

September 10, 2009 12:53 pm ET

From the September 10 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:

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    • Author by magnolialover (September 10, 2009 12:58 pm ET)
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      Rush, it was NOT a lie. Illegal immigrants, not covered.
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    • Author by PurpleState (September 10, 2009 1:02 pm ET)
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      So...........

      You're agreeing with him, Rush?

      We have you on the record?

      If health care passes and illegals are not covered, then Wilson's claim will in itself be a lie?

      Well, then you might have to apologize yourself.

      What?

      Oh, yeah. Rush don't play dat.
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    • Author by blk-in-alabam (September 10, 2009 1:06 pm ET)
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      Rush Limbaugh never thought he would see this day.A republican apologizing to someone other than Rush Limbaugh,for something they said.This is a show of submission reserved for Rush Linbaugh,supreme leader of the republican party
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      • Author by princeofwheels (September 10, 2009 1:10 pm ET)
           
        Rush let the entire Party know that he is upset. They will each be given a number to show the order in which they must "bend over" and grab their ankles to accept their punishment.

        Rush was yelling at his TV....today, his TV must apologize to him. It told lie after lie.
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    • Author by dave (September 10, 2009 1:08 pm ET)
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      Total uninsured number of 45,657,000 people...

      9,737,000 were not citizens of the U.S.
      8,149,000 were children under 18 years of age; many can get federally subsidized children's health insurance coverage.
      686,000 were age 65 or older who are eligible for Medicare because of their age, yet they reported themselves as not having coverage.
      17,802,000 reported incomes of less than $25,000; many would qualify for Medicaid and other government subsidized programs.
      7,253,000 reported incomes of $75,000 or more; and 6,870,000 reported incomes of between $50,000 and $74,999 -- some who could afford to purchase coverage but don’t.

      All these figures from 2007 can be verified on the Census Bureau's Web site today by looking down the third column of this general table at this address: http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/macro/032008/health/h01_001.htm
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      • Author by magnolialover (September 10, 2009 1:14 pm ET)
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        Your point is what exactly then?
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        • Author by wzwriter (September 10, 2009 1:18 pm ET)
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          Dave's point is on the top of his head.
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          • Author by magnolialover (September 10, 2009 1:24 pm ET)
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            I'm just not sure how this related to the bill not covering illegal aliens.
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            • Author by wzwriter (September 10, 2009 1:50 pm ET)
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              It doesn't. Dave was just looking for a place to stick one of those GOP-approved talking points.
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        • Author by dave (September 10, 2009 1:35 pm ET)
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          The point is Wilson may have a point about BO being a liar. The numbers he's been throwing around about the total number of uninsured in the US have been higher than they actually are. Kind of makes him a liar. So how can he claim that illegals won't be covered? Because he says so?
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          • Author by dr. matt (September 10, 2009 1:42 pm ET)
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            So how can he claim that illegals won't be covered?


            Please find it in the bill where is states that illegal aliens will be covered. We'll wait....

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            • Author by dave (September 10, 2009 1:45 pm ET)
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              I thought it wasn't a bill, yet?
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              • Author by dr. matt (September 10, 2009 1:49 pm ET)
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                The pending bill. So, again, please find it in the pending bill where is states that illegal aliens will be covered. We'll wait....
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              • Author by peace4all (September 10, 2009 1:50 pm ET)
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                2 things. one obama never said how many people were uninsured. he just said tens of millions, which is true.

                second, this is what the bill says:
                SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.

                Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.
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                so, as you can see both wilson and rush are either to stupid to read or they are lying. which do you believe it is?
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                • Author by dr. matt (September 10, 2009 1:52 pm ET)
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                  That tiny burst you just heard was Dave's pea-sized brain.
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                • Author by dave (September 10, 2009 2:07 pm ET)
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                  Not true. BO has stated that approx 45m Americans are not presently covered by insurance... while accuarate, he has not stated that most of them are either covered or would be covered by another program, were here illegally, or could afford it, but do not. After the numbers have been studied, it does not appear that its tens of millions.
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                  • Author by peace4all (September 10, 2009 2:20 pm ET)
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                    thats the problem. it "does not appear" the fact is that people that do not have insurance, like the young or people that do not wish to purchase it are also part of the problem. because, whise they may not get a life threatening illness they are still at risk for injury. that would put them in the hospital with no way to pay for the medical costs, so, those costs are passed on the the rest of us. so it is a true statement that tens of millions are not insured and need to be.
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                  • Author by magnolialover (September 10, 2009 2:42 pm ET)
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                    Well, it's true. If they don't have insurance, they don't have insurance, and the number, as you even pointed out and linked to, was 45 million people in America today don't have insurance.

                    How can you say in someone's situation, where saying you make, $50k/year that you can afford to buy your own health insurance? Chances are good, you can't afford that, and still be able to exist. I'd even guess that making $75k/year you'd have a hard time buying your own insurance, as it can be up to, and over $2k / month. For example, last winter, I lost my job. They offered me COBRA coverage, which if I had to pay for, just for myself, would have $2500 / month. Now, my unemployment was $1600 / month, plus mortgage, and other bills, and how was I going to afford that? Couldn't do it, and I was making, yes, $75k/year.

                    Also, in those numbers, it doesn't say how many people simply CAN'T purchase insurance (maybe for credit reasons, pre-existing conditions and so on).

                    And, also, in the proposed bill, it states that illegal aliens are not going to be covered.

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                  • Author by bluebug (September 10, 2009 3:28 pm ET)
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                    Wrong. From the actual speech, available at Whitehouse.gov:

                    "There are now more than 30 million American citizens who cannot get coverage. In just a two-year period, one in every three Americans goes without health care coverage at some point. And every day, 14,000 Americans lose their coverage."
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                • Author by DRC (September 10, 2009 11:14 pm ET)
                     
                  First point - there is more than one proposal on the table; second - there are already proposed amendments to the proposed bills. And just one of those amendments states that electronic verification such as e-verify for citizenship status will not be required. There are others that outline eligibility that WOULD allow illegals (sorry, undocumented "workers") coverage, so I guess it was a slight misstatement . . .?
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          • Author by Rob S. (September 10, 2009 1:44 pm ET)
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            We could always find out by actually researching it a little bit. We could always see if the bill excludes illegal immigrants.

            H.R. 3200: Sec 246 — NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS

            Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.
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          • Author by PurpleState (September 10, 2009 1:45 pm ET)
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            Dave, we're talking about that section in the speech, not the numbers.

            Wilson called him out on illegals, not the overall uninsured numbers.

            And we're talking about a bill that will CORRECT any problems regarding illegals currently getting insurance. Not one that will fix the numbers from 2007.

            Future. Not past.
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          • Author by internet soldier (September 10, 2009 1:46 pm ET)
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            In order for Obama to be lying he would have to state something false. That 46 million Americans are uninsured is in no doubt, as you yourself admit.

            Anyways this isn't even what Wilson was on about. You, like Wilson,seem to think Obama is lying when he said illegals won't be covered. Can you prove this?
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          • Author by Rob S. (September 10, 2009 1:48 pm ET)
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            So how can he claim that illegals won't be covered? Because he says so?


            And this says so.

            H.R. 3200: Sec 246 — NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS

            Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.
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          • Author by Max Credits (September 10, 2009 2:03 pm ET)
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            The point is Wilson may have a point about BO being a liar.


            You'd almost have a point if they were playing horseshoes or tossing hand grenades last night.
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (September 10, 2009 1:21 pm ET)
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        Hey dave - care to try to answer Rep. Weiner's question:

        What do the insurance companies bring to the table in regards to health care?

        So far the only answer I've gotten so far is that they exist to make doctors rich. Do you agree?
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      • Author by PurpleState (September 10, 2009 1:34 pm ET)
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        Okay, concrete numbers, yes. Assumptions, plenty.

        1. But "not a citizen"...does that mean "illegal aliens", or are we assuming it does?

        2. Are you assuming that people between 50K and 75K can afford insurance because they have all that disposable income? Hardly disposable if you ask me. I'm having problems affording my own insurance at 50K; what makes you think I can afford it when a major illness hits my family?

        3. When you say 'can qualify' and 'would qualify', how many actually DO qualify?
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      • Author by dr. matt (September 10, 2009 1:43 pm ET)
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        Total uninsured number of 45,657,000 people...
        9,737,000 were not citizens of the U.S.



        "Not a citizen" and "illegal alien/undocumented worker" are too different things. Need help figuring that out?

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        • Author by PurpleState (September 10, 2009 1:46 pm ET)
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          Two, Matt. Not too.

          Don't mean to nitpick, but...argh. It gets me sometimes. Forgive me, man.
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        • Author by dave (September 10, 2009 2:28 pm ET)
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          True, but BO still uses them to overinflate the number of uninsured. Take that number out completely and were down to approx 35m.
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          • Author by magnolialover (September 10, 2009 2:45 pm ET)
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            Yeah, but that wasn't even the point of what Wilson said. Obama was talking about illegal immigrants NOT being covered, and Wilson yelped out, "YOU LIE!". Which, he wasn't.

            I believe Obama, and lots of other people have said there are 45 million people in America not insured. And, as shown by your own link, he's correct.
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          • Author by CJB (September 10, 2009 3:38 pm ET)
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            Last nights speech

            "We are the only advanced democracy on Earth – the only wealthy nation – that allows such hardships for millions of its people. There are now more than thirty million American citizens who cannot get coverage. In just a two year period, one in every three Americans goes without health care coverage at some point. And every day, 14,000 Americans lose their coverage. In other words, it can happen to anyone."

            Does not seem like the President is counting to 45 million in his plan.
            Just saying...

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      • Author by internet soldier (September 10, 2009 1:49 pm ET)
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        "7,253,000 reported incomes of $75,000 or more; and 6,870,000 reported incomes of between $50,000 and $74,999 -- some who could afford to purchase coverage but don’t."

        How many of these people are being denied coverage because of pre-existing conditions?

        "9,737,000 were not citizens of the U.S."

        And none will be covered, read the CBO report.
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      • Author by davegaffney4127 (September 10, 2009 1:51 pm ET)
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        Check out the Math from a jack hole
        His #'s add up to pver 50,000,000 and hi say nothing about anyone making between $25,000.00-$50,000.00
        Way to make stuff up dave

        lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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      • Author by londondem (September 10, 2009 5:11 pm ET)
           
        The figures in the link are true. But guess what: chances are that some of those under 18 year-olds are also in the "not citizens" category, just like some of those 65 or older are in households earning less than $25K, or in households earning between $50-$75.

        This is why, when you add up all the individual numbers in your list, they come to more than the TOTAL number of uninsured!

        Nice job on the talking points, though.
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    • Author by DAWUSS (September 10, 2009 1:22 pm ET)
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      How long before Wilson apologizes to Limbaugh?
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    • Author by snoopy (September 10, 2009 1:27 pm ET)
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      Right on cue! I soooo called it last night...
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    • Author by antihannity2009 (September 10, 2009 1:32 pm ET)
         
      I was just thinking that too. Sometime either today or tomorrow Wilson will come crawling on his knees to Rush begging for forgiveness. It happens every time.
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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (September 10, 2009 1:33 pm ET)
         
      I'm betting old tubby will be in overdrive on this one all day long, over and over and over.
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (September 10, 2009 1:38 pm ET)
         
      I knew good ol' Rushie would be all over Foe Wilson's stupid remark! You know I just bet that this event again will get stretched for months! God is the RIGHT that far gone? Thanks to Rushie it will be.....
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    • Author by shaggles (September 10, 2009 1:53 pm ET)
         
      A blatant lie? It's in the freakin' bill dipsh!t.
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    • Author by shaggles (September 10, 2009 2:02 pm ET)
         
      People act like the US is the only destination in the world for illegal immigrants. Other countries (Denmark, France, UK, etc.) have illegal immigrants too and universal healthcare. I don't see them going bankrupt because of undocumented immigrants taking advantage of their healthcare systems.
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    • Author by o rly (September 10, 2009 2:27 pm ET)
         
      Rush definitely knows lies. He tells em three hours a day.
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    • Author by tinkerbink (September 11, 2009 9:30 am ET)
         
      I agree with you Rush. He did NOT need to apologize. He spoke for almost everyone!
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