Maddow examines whether Beck's 9-12 Project is "exploiting a national tragedy for other purposes"
September 10, 2009 10:10 pm ET
From the September 10 edition of MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show:
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September 12th was not a day for me to stand up and unite with my fellow American. September 12th was a day of mourning for those that died and a day of absolute terror for me. I was half a world away, unable to console anyone. I broke down in tears, but thanked my lucky stars that I didn't lose anyone, only to find out that my entire family could have died on that flight if the terrorists had decided that September 8th was a better day to do it.
So, no, I don't ever want to hear the date 9/12 as a day of "unity". September 12th is a day that I drank myself into a depressed state. September 12th is always a date that I will keep to myself, because that was the day the actual event happened for me.
GLENN LEE BECK
September 09, 2005
Please now go to a mirror and slap yourself. Hard.
You Beckers are all alike. You make these statements with absolutely no evidence to back them up except that it's your opinion.
"And I had such compassion for them, and I really wanted to help them, and I was behind, you know, "Let's give them money, let's get this started." All of this stuff. And I really didn't -- of the 3,000 victims' families, I don't hate all of them. Probably about 10 of them. And when I see a 9-11 victim family on television, or whatever, I'm just like, "Oh shut up!" I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining. And we did our best for them. And, again, it's only about 10."
You guys make it out like he hates ALL 9/11 families. What were these families complaining about? I don't know. I wasn't there. Go email Beck about that.
"I don't hate all of them. Probably about 10 of them. And when I see a 9-11 victim family on television, or whatever, I'm just like, "Oh shut up!" I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining"
That's your hero, Beck worshippers.
Sheesh, you're ignorant. Were you born yesterday?
Beck hated the 9/11 widows because they were advocating for getting to the truth about what happened on 9/11. You know, like having a commission look into it, something the president resisted and then even failed to testify under oath and had to have his string-puller Cheney in the room with him. What did Bush have to hide?
I don't know.
There ya have it folks. Someone who doesn't know, yet believes what he hears from a paranoid delusional freak like Beck.
They didn't want money they wanted answers. And that's why Beck hated some of them, because they wanted answers.
Say what you will but the nation failed them and their family members who perished.
After all, he's using 9/11 for his own nefarious purposes and personal gains.
"The idea that who we were on September 12th, 2001 is who we want to be right now. People who were terrified... is that what Glenn Beck is calling us to be again?"
It would take less than a minute to go the 9/12 Project website and find the mission statement; something Maddow and her guest obviously didn't do: "The 9-12 Project is designed to bring us all back to the place we were on September 12, 2001. The day after America was attacked we were not obsessed with Red States, Blue States or political parties. We were united as Americans, standing together to protect the greatest nation ever created."
Have any of you actually read through that site? If that's what Beck believes in - if that's truly the core principles he keeps - how can you call him a psychotic, hatemonger? Do none of you like anything about that site? Do none of you believe any of those 9 principles and 12 values that are listed?
-Barack Obama, Feb. 5, 2008.
Yet somehow you disagree when he said it over a year ago. Hmm.
Let's go back to 9/12/2001.
The day when Republicans were in charge of everything.
The day when evidence that we were attacked by AlQaeda was ignored and investigators were told to go back over the evidence and try to find a link to Iraq.
The day that the Democrats joined with the Republicans in solidarity to put country first.
And probably the day before the Republicans decided that we on the left were traitors and cowards.
I don't need to read anyone's idea of principles and values. Mine are and always have been intact. I've questioned my government and it's leaders but never denied our presidents humanity or tried to take away his dignity with every statement I made.
You don't get to make the rules. You don't get to decide on who is and who is not a patriot. You don't get to define what a "Great American" is. You're not qualified to pass judgement on others and you're definitely not permitted to claim that your freedom of speech has been violated when for most of the last eight years, free speech has been relegated to free speech zones.
We won't play by your rules any longer. Your side lost the presidency and congress. And because of what your side has done and continues to do, the nation seems to have lost it's conscience and possibly, it's soul.
Yes, I read it, and it made me sick to my stomach.
And I'll stop tearing into Beck the moment he shows a glimmer of actually believing in it instead of using fearful, divisive propaganda to tear down the left.
He hasn't. He can put these statements up all that he wants, but he is not trying to unite anyone, he's trying to take down a President, who just "happens" to be a democrat.
We can call him a psychotic hatemonger because what he wrote on that website, and what he does are 2 very different things.
The stupid 9 principles and 12 values are mostly just common sense stuff that people should be living by anyway, let's go over them shall we?
1. America is good.
Wow, can't really argue with that one. Who would really?
2. I believe in God and he is the center of my life.
Well, I can't get on board with this one since I am an avowed atheist, but others can knock themselves out. And the way that Mr. Beck acts, God is most definitely NOT at the center of his life.
3. I must always try to be a more honest person than I was yesterday.
Beck does not exemplify this at all, since his show went on FoxNews, he's become more dishonest as time rolls by.
4. The family is sacred. My spouse and I are the ultimate authority, not the government.
Again, this is fine. But in what case are you and your spouse the "ultimate authority"? I would say that there are time when indeed the government does usurp your authority, as in, when someone breaks the law. We don't get to judge ourselves, a court and a jury do that.
5. If you break the law you pay the penalty. Justice is blind and no one is above it.
Again, this is fine as well. Except that when people who break the law that Glenn likes, or is "for" he doesn't seem to think they should be punished. IE, CIA interogators who tortured people.
6. I have a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, but there is no guarantee of equal results.
This is kind of true, because let's face it, life ain't fair.
7. I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable.
When has the government ever forced anyone to be charitable? I don't remember government mandated charity events.
8. It is not un-American for me to disagree with authority or to share my personal opinion.
OK, has anyone ever said that it was? No, nobody has. Again, I'm fine with this. But you also have to remember, that when you share your opinion, and others find it objectionable, they get to do the same thing as you did, and share their opinions with people like, Beck's sponsors.
9. The government works for me. I do not answer to them, they answer to me.
Yes, this is true, because we are a representative republic, which is why we have presidential elections every 4 years, House elections every 2, and Senate elections every 6, along with a mass of local, and state elections.
The 12 Values
* Honesty (Glenn has not too much of this at all)
* Reverence (Reverence for what?)
* Hope (Hope for what?)
* Thrift (Millionaires talking about thrift, how quaint)
* Humility (Glenn has none of this)
* Charity (Glenn has none of this either, far as I can tell)
* Sincerity (Glenn has no sincerity, goes along with his lying)
* Moderation (Moderation in what? Rhetoric? Because he's not got any of that)
* Hard Work (Hard work, Glenn I'm sure works hard at his crazy day in, and day out, and I know many hard workers, me being one of them)
* Courage (Courage is fine, Glenn shows very little though).
* Personal Responsibility (Glenn has no personal responsibility. We can look at his recent racist comment about the President, instead of "owning it", he has avoided it like he never said it).
It's funny that Beck puts this stuff out, and rarely, if ever, comes close to "living" the way he espouses the rest of us should live.
* Gratitude
The president is a racist. The president hates white people. The president is a fascist. The president is a socialist. The president is a marxist. The president is a communist.
Beck does lie, but not as much as he fearmongers.
There is evidence to support the notion that our President has socialist and marxist tendencies, by the way.
But enough of that. How about some hard evidence of Beck intentionally lying and deceiving everybody?
Yes, you can be both fascist and socialist. Fascism isn't inherently left or right wing. It is how it's applied that determines this.
What things does Beck make up about ACORN and SEIU?
I don't know anything about the Rockefellers so I won't comment on that.
Making false claims about those who disagree with him and judging us to be socialists and communists doesn't seem to fit his self professed system.
He's the one working to divide the country as he professes his wish for unity.
Yet, the attendees at this rally will undoubtedly be racist president-hating teabaggers. I'd bet on it.
OF COURSE THEY WILL, THEY HAVE, AND THEY WILL
Is he trying to unite the 52.9 % of the electorate who voted for Barack Obama, after he's called us socialists, marxists and communists?
How does one reunite a society when he is most responsible for the division?
But, it was his actions that caused me to step back from that support.
His first reaction was to reach out to people of ALL faiths that were affected on 9/11, including Muslims. Yes, there were Muslims in the towers.
But his actions later reinforced the notion that the war on terrorism was a Christian vs. Muslim war. Played right into the hands of Al Queda.
Then, with one justified war raging in Afghanistan, he decides to invade Iraq.
Well that did it for me.
Hard to rally around a guy who is not only self-destructive, he wants to drag the rest of us along for the ride.
I'd be amazed if they get 20,000. We'll see.