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Quinn on Islam: "It must be defeated on the battlefield. You've got to kill it before it before it kills us.

September 11, 2009 4:35 pm ET

From the September 11 edition of Clear Channel's The War Room with Quinn & Rose:

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Previously:

Quinn refers to Islam as a "Neanderthal way of living disguised as a religion"

Quinn: Islam is a "Neanderthal religion" that "enslave[s] black people"

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    • Author by DAWUSS (September 11, 2009 4:38 pm ET)
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      How can you defeat a belief?
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      • Author by Vincenzo (September 11, 2009 4:39 pm ET)
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        Obviously get it on a battlefield and blow it up from Smok'n dope Quinn.
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      • Author by WhatImlost (September 11, 2009 4:46 pm ET)
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        I dont know, but I hope Quinn tells us soon so that we can use that method against the Conservative movement
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      • Author by neon desert (September 11, 2009 6:59 pm ET)
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        Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't it sound at least a little bit like he's proposing genocide?
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        • Author by neon desert (September 11, 2009 7:23 pm ET)
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          Of course, I'm talking about the good, christian genocide. Not the bad nazi genocide.
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          • Author by bobklahn (September 12, 2009 9:00 am ET)
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            What this does not note is, Quinn specified Wahabi Islam. He didn't emphasize that enough, and most people will not catch that or differentiate between Wahabi and other forms of Islam.

            Wahabi is the most extreme major form of Islam, it does teach hate and violence, and it's supported by the Saudi Government.

            I have never heard Quinn before, I do not know what he says, I think he got quite a bit wrong.

            But he was right about one thing. Wahabi Islam is at war with all other forms of Islam, and with the non-Islamic world. And it is supported by the vast wealth of the Saudi monarchy.

            The current King of Saudi Arabia is trying to rein them in, but how far he will or can go with that is not known.

            But Wahabi is the real threat, to Islam even more than to Christianity and the western world.
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      • Author by Doug-Life (September 11, 2009 10:43 pm ET)
           
        waterboarding?
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    • Author by wzwriter (September 11, 2009 4:45 pm ET)
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      Quinn on Islam: "It must be defeated on the battlefield. You've got to kill it before it before it kills us.

      That worked so well during The Crusades. It only proves that Quinn's thinking is mired in teh Dark Ages.....
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    • Author by dmhack (September 11, 2009 4:46 pm ET)
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      Private Quinn, reporting for duty.

      The American Right---all talk and no action since 1900.
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    • Author by kfraz43 (September 11, 2009 4:49 pm ET)
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      The Inquisition, what a show...
      The Inquisition, here we go!

      - History of the World Part I

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    • Author by o rly (September 11, 2009 4:55 pm ET)
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      Radical Christians are no better than radical Muslims. I find it odd they hate each other, since they have so much in common.
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      • Author by jmille426471 (September 11, 2009 5:22 pm ET)
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        Yessir. Whenever Christians have controlled government, they have invariably been horrible throughout history.
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        • Author by Doug-Life (September 11, 2009 10:46 pm ET)
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          Why do you have to hate on Obama?
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          • Author by jmille426471 (September 13, 2009 2:09 am ET)
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            I'm talking about when the church itself has controlled government, so I guess that was an imprecise way to put it. However, history has made it quite clear that theocracies of whatever religious persuasion results in tyranny and/or horrific warfare. This is why certain people in our country who badmouth the violent tendencies of Islam annoy me so very much.
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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (September 11, 2009 5:25 pm ET)
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        I think it's why they have such a hard time understanding the idea of dealing with other conservative religious fundamentalists through any means other than war. They know themselves and their aversion to reason pretty well.

        Fortunately, liberals understand the importance of taking the high road, and at least giving other groups a chance at reclaiming control from their wack jobs.

        These will be two of the most daunting tasks for the Obama administration, coaxing out the reasonable elements of Islamic groups abroad, while simultaneously attempting to do the same with the Christian extremist enemies of America right here.
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    • Author by jmille426471 (September 11, 2009 5:21 pm ET)
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      So Quinn, how do you suggest we carry this war out? We definately cant nuke 1 billion people, as we would probably exterminate ourselves in the process. But killing 1,000,000,000 people without any WMD would be mammoth task indeed. Perhaps a mix of conventional genocide and nuclear? I think the Heritage foundation needs to get on this one.
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      • Author by papa bear3 (September 11, 2009 6:03 pm ET)
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        to paraphrase Chairman Mao to an American official, "We can afford to lose 300,000,000.....can you?

        The Muslims outnumber us by a considerable amount

        As JFK told Strom Thurmond during the Cuban Missile Crisis, when Strom urged him to attack, "Strom, think of our casualties in terms of constituents, who will vote for you next November?"

        Maybe Quinn should think in terms of listeners, who won't be there.
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      • Author by snoopy (September 11, 2009 10:10 pm ET)
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        I'm guessing that they think the muslims will pretty much roll over like large populations of jews did during WW2. Unfortunately for them, they seem to forget the crusades showed just how wrong that line of reasoning is.
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    • Author by worrierking (September 11, 2009 5:28 pm ET)
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      Why is it that guys like this, who've never been on a battlefield know so much about them?

      Let's round up everyone with the urge to defeat someone on the battlefield and have them fight this war they seem determined to have others fight.
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    • Author by The_Cat (September 11, 2009 5:32 pm ET)
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      If 'they' hate us because we have a free society, then why aren't you in favor of Obama, whom you claim is moving us inevitably towards fascism? At least as fascists, we would no longer be free, and no longer be an object of hatred. Too logical, I suppose.

      Mr. Quinn, I have an excellent idea, since you wish to hold tightly to your anger. Every day, at the exact moment the first plane struck the Towers, we will all face New York City for a 'Two Minute Hate'. We'll all just let the hate flow through us as we picture our enemies, whoever the government decides that is. All feeling and no rational thought at all. That would be a good way to commemorate what happened that day. (If this sounds familiar, it should. Mr. Orwell was here ahead of me.)
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    • Author by TheAncients (September 11, 2009 6:54 pm ET)
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      I don't get it. When there was radical Christianity people were going ape sh*t. Now it's Islam's turn. Radical crazy islamist's trying to impose Sharia law and make them convert to Islam for no reason whatsoever. I'm Muslim by the way. The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said to his disciples "In the end of times Iraq will be invaded" the disciples were surprised and asked "Who is going to invade Iraq?" The Prophet replied "The Christians" and then eventually Syria. Do the math people. George Bush had bible war quotes written on the top of his war briefings paper EVERY morning. Does this not ring a bell to you?
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      • Author by snoopy (September 11, 2009 10:47 pm ET)
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        If you mean by bell "don't allow radical religious groups to control government" we're waaaay ahead of you there. We voted that out of office last election...
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    • Author by epkklk851 (September 11, 2009 6:56 pm ET)
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      Let's see, we'll kill all the Muslims before they kill us. What about turning the other cheek and loving your neighbor? You call being a nation of laws a luxury. It isn't a luxury, it is an essential, and if you throw it away to murder an entire group of people, you will kill the idea of a nation of laws, now and for forever!
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      • Author by snoopy (September 11, 2009 11:50 pm ET)
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        see ep, in rightwing world, you must first kill the competition and let god sort them out. Then when no one is left to hate, they sit back and reflect about how some of them weren't so bad after all. Remember, christians don't have to be good their entire lives to get into heaven, they just have to cry and repent moments before they die for god to forgive them and take them to the promised land.
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      • Author by bobklahn (September 12, 2009 9:05 am ET)
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        You are right about everything but one. He was talking about Wahabi Islam, not all Islam. Wahabi Islam is just as bad as he says. Only problem is, he only mentioned Wahabism once in that diatribe. He should have said Wahabism for every reference to radical Islam. Precision in speech makes a difference.

        To get at Wahabism all we have to go after is Saudi Arabia. Notice the one country our government doesn't say bad things about is the source of almost everything that happened on 9-11-01?
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (September 11, 2009 7:44 pm ET)
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      Jim Quinn the right-wings Rambo.
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    • Author by roninkannushi1711 (September 11, 2009 8:57 pm ET)
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      Fellow Matterers,

      Jim Quinn has a scared life. The people around him must have a very sad day, when he is around. Islam is a religion, as is Christianity. The cutting off of hands is the literal actions of what Jesus said, (paraphrase) If thy hand offend thee, cut it off...

      In Islam, the hand is cut off for theft, for example. Actions, of the sort, have been exercised throughout the history of Islam. It is nothing new, as with stoning. Circle exploration accomplishes nothing, especially when Jim Quinn can not see beyond his anger. Anger blinds all reasoning.

      Has Christianity ever committed any atrocities? They call us infidels. Radicals happen! Are all Americans fear mongering racist? That is what Jim Quinn implies about Islam: they are all the same. Mr. Quinn, we are not!

      Religion has caused more death, than wars have taken.

      Unreasonable people, make unjustified claims, with unfounded prejudices.

      It be it,
      Ronin Kannushi.
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    • Author by tbone (September 11, 2009 9:00 pm ET)
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      I'll agree with Quinn on one point: militant Wahabbism needs to be destroyed.

      The problem is that Quinn conflates this sub, sub, sub-sector of Islam with its mainstream 3 billion adherents, few of whom have an interest in, let alone engagement in pursuing violent jihad.

      When you figure out how to round up and kill all the active Jihadis without killing thousands or millions of innocents give me a call.

      In the meantime, stay angry. It suits you to a tee.

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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (September 12, 2009 3:29 am ET)
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        The problem is that Quinn conflates this sub, sub, sub-sector of Islam with its mainstream 3 billion adherents, few of whom have an interest in, let alone engagement in pursuing violent jihad.


        Exactly right, Tbone. That's the first problem, the other is that these radio pinheads are talking to so many Americans who can't distinguish Saudi Arabia from Iraq from Iran from Turkey from Hawaii, let alone making the distinction you mention.
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      • Author by bobklahn (September 12, 2009 9:09 am ET)
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        So, it seems someone else caught that before I did.

        Though Quinn did make that distinction *one time*.

        If he had used Wahabism instead of Islam when talking about the radicals he would have been pretty much on target.

        Oh, and another posted an agreement with you before I did. Seems we may be few, but we are here. Those who recognize the difference between Islam and Wahabism. And those who recognize the source and homeland of Wahabism.
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    • Author by skyreader7 (September 12, 2009 6:58 am ET)
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      The hordes are taking over. And oh my God, they aren't white. How terrible! Time to panic. Hide in the cellar. Pretty soon there won't be any more "white people." Must be End of Times.
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    • Author by Rusty (September 12, 2009 10:16 am ET)
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      Somebody help me out here: What exactly did he say about Islam that is incorrect or inaccurate?
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    • Author by us4gus (September 12, 2009 11:21 am ET)
         
      Here is the answer to how you defeat a belief - quite simply you don't - i think the swordfish philisophy would work quite nice - you simply create an enviroment that the thought of attacking a US or US interest is so negative and conjures up horrible thoughts in the minds of those seeking such things that it would be politically and physically better not to mess with the US. some call it the putting the fear of god in them. I'll use David and Goliath for my example - after David killed Goliath he cut off his head and mounted it on a spear outside his tent for all the Philistines to see and know their head would be next to Goliath. it worked great

      also i've been reading alot of negative comments about Christians and genocide and crusades, remember it was not Christians it was Catholics. Never confuse the two - Christians follow the teachings of Christ the other is political power especially during the times mentioned. there is a huge difference -
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