Kurtz notes Beck "practically conceived" the 9-12 protests, asks if he is "a talk show host" or "a leader of a movement"
September 13, 2009 11:14 am ET
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Yes, because if we know anything from the 8 years of Bush, it is how good Republicans are at predicting things like WMDs, how much a war would cost, the effects of a hurricane, etc.
Maybe he's using that special Karl Rove math that told Rove that republicans were also going to pick up seats in 2006.
Conservative political analysts think they made some super discovery that Republicans may gain seats, but in all reality, they may regain control of some districts that have traditionally voted Republican, but lost in 2006.
Here is a true test to see the commitment of the first time voters and youth voters from last year and see if they continue to vote...
Source http://www.realclearpolitics.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA
I had heard the hype about the tea party through FoxNews, and since I live in DC, I figured I needed to go out, and see it first hand (like I did on tax day this year) and see what all of the noise was about.
I was underwhelmed.
They really had no coherent message, other than the following:
Anything Obama supports = BAD
Anything republicans supprt = GOOD
I've also been to a few large scale lefty protests, and at least with my liberal friends, we were protesting a certain thing. Iraq war for example. There was a coherent message, and it wasn't just "hate Bush" (although there were plenty there just for that), but overall, the message was no Iraq war. Same for protests I attended about women's reproductive rights. Laser focus on a message.
These folks, I mean, it was no taxes, lower taxes, guns, god, abortion, health care (very little about this actually), Joe Wilson being right, and so on.
And as I've said before, if this is a populist movement, as we're told by certain members of FoxNews, well, it's not so popular, if you can't even pull in 100,000 for a protest in DC.
You are right in the fact there are many aspects of the current administration that are frustrating. To start--
the deficit. Yes Bush started it-but these guys are knocking out of the park. Someone at some point is going to have to say 'ENOUGH'. What will all the unemployed and welfare recipients going to do then? Get a job maybe?
Sounds like you fit epkklk851's description. To a tea.
Gee, thanks for clearin' that up.
A movement specifically meant to exploit the tragedy/terror attacks of 9/11 by calling his pathetic little anti-tax tea bag group the 9/12 Project!
Pure and simple! Glenn Beck is scum, a user, and an exploiter!
There is absolutely no reason, good or crummy to call his tax protesting group the 9/12 Project except to use the tragedy of 9/11 to get weak minded simpletons angry about one thing by using another!
Only dimwits and fools cannot see that!
Right now, Glenn Beck is bigger than Rush Limbaugh.
REPENT! REPENT!
Recant your heresy, or be damned to hell's fire for eternity.
Or maybe an apology will do.
He can barely get over his moat.
We are talking about EL RUSHBO! What is he going to do, you ask.
I will give you examples of his preeminence.
There was a time when all thought that Hannity was the great one's heir apparent. Hannity was better looking,more hair, and had less personal baggage. Look what has befallen him.
Hannity called himself an idiot on his own show, admitted it to a liberal feminazi, no less. Further, have you noticed Hannity's apperance lately - those chipmonk cheeks, and that hairline!
Unrelated to being better looking than El Rushbo. Not a chance!
No one dares presume to be better than Rush.
And this Glen Beck person, true Rush must allow his acolytes to shine sometimes - but Beck must always remember he is just a reflection of HIS radiance. Otherwise, well, lets just say Glenn Beck might just go the way of Michael Savage.
PurpleState: Beware.
I hope you take this in the spirit is was written. It was meant for fun.
Way to man the barricades, Becky.
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Since Barack Obama started to consider his candidacy as president, the far right, the extreme racist, and everything stupid knew they would have the chance to use Obama's race as a weapon against him. We need to keep this simple. It dose not take much to see the kind of hatred Glen Beck is working with.
Ana Maria Cox said Beck was taking advantage of fear. The people who follow him find a good old boys and girls network in which to relate their fears about where the country is headed. That is a bunch of bull, and at best, Cox is putting the obvious racist tones coming out Beck and his followers mouths nicely. This man is a racist; the people who follow and support him are the same, ansd the networks that present his actions as a political ideology to be debated do what Beck need for his Bull to grow.
The networks have a huge roll is the promotion of the negative crab directed at our BLACK president. By given Beck's movement the kind of air time and analysis shown in the video, his status is mistaken for something to debate. All that is needed to define Beck and his followers is the same kind of consideration we give the KKK and skin heads: "Been there; scene that."
Joseph
Much of why Dick Chaney is able to get away with doing what he's has done is he reduces everything he does to debate status. It appears to be something all Republicans do to explain, legitimize and legalize some of the extreme bull they bring to the people. At some point, because real people are involved, we have to stop this phony direction the GOP is taking our resources and our American resolve.
Joseph
There's nothing complicated about it.
FoxBaggers Party, Advisor Beck at your service.
We need to redefine Fox and Beck to be responsible for this movement. And repeat it enough times that it sticks to them.
I know I'm fumbling around...it's like watching Beck and no longer seeing a wingnut commentator, but seeing the leader of the TeaBaggers, and Fox media as just a conduit for the TeaBag Party. Period!
Of course, with the sponsors fleeing Beck's show, it might be difficult to find a store to send them to.
One only need to look at the ridiculous positions of the "Tea Partiers", most of whom were rebel-yelling for more money to throw into Israel, Iraq, and Afghanistan and endorsing the growth of American government in the lives of the individual through the Patriot Act and subsequent domestic anti-terror statutes, to see the kind of destructive force that Beck has created. What is most revolting, yes I haven't even gotten to the worst part yet, is that Beck misrepresents the past by glorifying it in a wave of "conservative values". The problem is that taxes on all American's (particularly the wealthy) during the times Beck uses for reference were much higher and the middle class (now an increasingly smaller constituency of what it was then) was much larger because of the "socialist" policies of FDR and Truman.
What Beck has done is not propagate a conservative cause, he has endorsed and propagated a system of anarchy, ignorance, and disrespect to the values of Civic responsibility.
- Is this guy serious?
I want to know income level, education level, family size, location, political affiliation. I would like to understand the demographic.
The right may say that their tea parties are representative of the entire nation, but if you have thousands of people show up at a rally, and 80% of those people who show up are registered republicans, then statistically, I do not see how they can be viewed as representative of the whole. It would be like playing cards with a stacked deck.
They're not covering it, they're creating it.
There's 20 percent of the country who are ignorant, ill-informed, racist, gun-show trash. They'd hate Obama if he was white, but the fact that he's black sends him totally off the rails.
That's not the entire gop base, but it's most of it. They sure as hell can't win an election without them.
They're the legacy of Nixon's Southern Strategy. Face it, the gops made a deal with the Devil and now they're stuck with the scum vote for their base.