Beck screams and shouts about ACORN and the "souless" people in Washington
September 15, 2009 11:30 am ET
From the September 15 edition of the Premiere Radion Network's The Glenn Beck Program:
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I thought the teabaggers went home.
The soulless people are still there, but most people still call them lobbyists.
Umm, the party in the case of Jefferson in LA, asked him to step down and resign, but they can't make him do it. You seemed to have forgotten that part. Also, I seem to remember almost every dem that I know saying the same thing. Of course they voted him out, he was corrupt, and wouldn't leave.
Don't worry about republicans taking back anything in 2010, won't happen.
Of course, you're referring to the Bush Misadministration - right?
P.S. Nancy Pelosi is not the president. And President Obama wasn't elected to play God. Those silly sentences sound slightly stupid. Sorry.
This is false. There have been no convictions of ACORN for voter fraud, despite the way the right wing likes to hype this.
http://www.truthout.org/article/101808A
But tell me are convictions your standard for guilt or innocence?
Some employees signed fictitious names down because they were paid by the number of signatures there is absolutley no proof that they voted(voter fraud)none, zilch, nada, nunca, got it. If you didn't know now you do,you post that BS again and we will know who the dishonest one is.
I agree. It's about time they investigate the bush administration and the republican party for high crimes and treason.
Im quite sure it was completely justified since it was a republican doing the killing...
ACORN employees have been fired, taken into court, fined, and in some cases jailed for their fraud.
ACORN itself, is NOT a criminal organization, but some of the people working for it were.
It's really not hard to understand is it?
But how do you feel about the pattern of corruption emerging in the prostitution sting? You know the one where 3 ACORN offices are seen advising people how to obtain federal money for the purpose of prostitution and the child slave trade. I guess you will claim that they are doing good because they are advising the people to keep the children in school, in between tricks of course. Another fine example of a democratic organisation at work.
Your nuts to compare multi-million multi-national corporations to poor and working people organizations. Are you saying ACORN also committed murder as has Halliburton,KBR, and Blackwater...really? Your real hatred it seems is that poor and working people vote Democratic! Maybe if you conservatives supported policies that benefitted us you'd get our support. But carry on with your assualt to discredit ACORN, it ain't nothing new, and you won't make us go away and we VOTE and PAY TAXES too!
We'll be there whenever a house buyer is discriminated against because of his skin color. We'll be there when a worker is laid off due to the failed policies of a trickle down economy and needs assistance in obtaining food stamps or job counseling,or staying in their home. You'll see us fighting for a livable wage and for EFCA, and for healthcare based on need and not greed(healthcare is a right), you'll see us providing education and counseling to first time home buyers. ACORN is the community members coming toghether realizing that there is strenght in numbers and despite the climb, climb we must. We're not beggers , we are citizens, with just as much right to pursue the American dream as anyone and no matter how many obstacles you place before us or the name of the organization we will not go silently into the night. It ain't like we haven't had to fight before.
He's moments away from following in his mother's footsteps.
There is actually a very strong familial link with mental disorders and suicidal tendencies. It's only a matter of time before Becky follows the family ways.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlHHmrYUPkc
At some point during your life you should exhibit a little discretion and critical thinking.
Should I emulate the great minds here at MMFA? Like dr matt for example , aka harley.
And what is caring water?
You do know that, don't you?
You're response simply made my point again about what a snide, petty, and nitpicking little twerp you are. You (and Fauxliberal)childishly seized upon a meaningless spelling error and used that as your lame-ass excuse to deny the point that was being made. It is the tactic of an eight year old. You were absolutely unable to respond to the substance of Barry's remark. You embarrassed yourselves, although I doubt that you have the requisite self awareness to realize it.
Just in case you both ARE that stupid, Barry was using the well-worn and highly appropriate phrase 'carrying water'.
And that is PRECISELY what fawning and dishonest DO for their greedy and dishonest heroes.
Let's leave the tasteless comments to stark and FL.
Oh right! One of your guys. Funny you didn't refer to his comments as tasteless. It is apparently appropriate to have the word hack in your screen name. Hypocrite might be more appropriate.
Then you come up with an equally revolting remark. Get a clue.
Even if Beck was right and ACORN was as corrupt and evil as he believes, it wouldn't make a difference in the grand scheme of US politics. This country has endured far greater scandals at much higher costs, both politically and financially. Most of which can be pinned directly to (but not necessarily exclusively) at Republican leadership
Iran/Contra
Savings and Loans Bailouts
ENRON
But Beck and the right like to create scandals that they see as equal value and tries to stir up some false outrage. For President Clinton, it was Whitewater and Monica Lewinsky.
Beck is an opportunists trying to divide this country and collect a paycheck.
I think that we're witnessing the unfolding of a real-life Howard Beale. For anyone who hasn't seen or doesn't remember "Network", the underlying plot of the purposeful marriage of news and entertainment was eerily prescient. Check it out some time, and see if you can watch it without constantly drawing parallels between the movie and Fox News thoughout. I can't.
Especially since ACORN is mostly a black-run organization that helps mostly black people. Gotta stay consistent with hating the black man.
It's a mainly black organization so the racist teabaggers latch on to a few low-level losers to falsely brand the entire operation as criminal.
What part of this are you failing to grasp?
How many people do you have marked off as corrupt, exactly? Are there only thirty or forty people in the entire organization, or what? I'm not sure what proof you need that the handful of people you're talking about constitutes a tiny percentage of the organization, outside of knowing how to operate a calculator.
What about your own Mormon church, sir? Child weddings? Polygamy? Incest? Of course, when this happens within your church, it's the isolated actions of a troubled few. When it 'happens' to ACORN, though, the entire edifice must be completely evil, right? I had to put quotes around 'happens' because, it was still only a ruse, wasn't it?
I have no wish to offend Mormons. I am friends with Mormons in my private life, and they mostly seem like decent Americans for the most part. But I choose to illustrate my point in this fashion because the only thing more contemptible to me than righteous indignation from someone with no stones to throw themselves, is a HYPOCRITE. You, Mr. Beck, are a hypocrite.
Beck never has an opposing voice on his radio show or TV show. I've never seen Beck have to defend his positions. AT LEAST O'Rielly and Hannity do this sometimes.
Of course you cannot judge an organization or a church by the acts of a few, but just as you yourself have pointed out by your accusation against the Mormon church, when such situations *do* arise then wouldn't you agree that closer scrutiny is called for, to ensure that the problem isn't systemic.
If ACORN is as clean as they claim they are, they'll win a nice juicy lawsuit from Fox/Beck. If they aren't, that will also be seen in the light of day.
They're about as mainstream as you could expect for a religion that had its holy book pulled out of a hat.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html
You know who is really soulless? It's the Tea Baggers and the people who follow Glen Beck. It is obvious Beck is willing to overlook those who were leading America to destruction. Where was this lying and crying fool when Bush was leading us into a war on lies?
Where was this bastard when Bush was running up a huge deficit?
Where was Beck when Bush was missing in action during Katrina?
Where was Beck's outrage when Bush ignored warning that "terrorist" was determined to attack inside America?
How about Bush spending precious time in a class room while American was under “attack”? Why does Beck overlook all those things?
Beck has no credibility with folks with common sense, only hateful people, people who has no humanity or soul, people who would rather drown in the sea, before allowing a black man to guise the ship to safety. It is no wonder these are the kind of people that are attractive to a deranged man (Glen Beck).
These uneducated, hateful protesters should be mad at Big Insurance companies and the last administration. They are the criminals who abused the system and took advantage of the American people.
Oh, and I think I figured out why he worships the Founding Fathers so much..
they didnt like black people either.
Based on what republicans/conservatives have said about Obama over the last year and a half, it's pretty reasonable to assume that behind closed doors, and when their microphones are off, I'm sure the N word has slipped out more than once.
Everybody who opposes Obama is NOT a racist, but all racists oppose Obama.
Not only conservatives can be racist, but they sure have cornered the market lately.
Here we go again with "I'm sure" or "probably". You make assumptions about people. It's sort of like when you assumed Obama would make a good president based on no evidence. That didn't work out very well for you, did it? When Beck called Obama a racist he lost a bunch of advertisers even though the guy belonged to a racist church for 20 years. Do I think Beck is right? Probably not, but it seems odd that someone would belong to a racist church for so long and not be one themselves. My point is that Beck based his albeit extreme comment on legitimate evidence. He didn't just pull it out of thin air.
That makes no sense.
If the word is bad , it is bad for all. Isn't that equality? Or do we go with two sets of rules?
It's a matter of determining intent. If you have an inside joke with your wife about calling her a "bitch", then she knows you're not really insulting her when you say that. If some stranger on the street says the same thing to her, that's another story. So there are different standards based on the intent of the comment.
I'm not sure why that post required clarification.
And fyi, I don't assume anyone who disagrees with me is a racist. I only assume anyone who goes out of their way to defend racist statements is one. Big difference.
But he seems comfortable in not thinking that an aggregate of pertinent information presented, which show that racists abound on the conservative side is fair. We shouldn't use that same broad brush he uses, regardless of facts.
Gee, cognitive dissonance?
You're welcome, by the way.
I just got an email from a conservative friend of mine. It's a fox news piece proclaiming that
"Senate Votes to Cut Off ACORN Housing Funding The 83-7 vote would deny housing and community grant funding to the organization..."
Now I have no idea at all if this is accutrate, but something rather amazing happens towards the end.
They highlight the voter registration fruad inditments (of course):
"In recent months, Republicans have become increasingly critical of the census' ties with ACORN. The group, which advocates for poor people, conducted a massive voter registration effort last year and became a target of conservatives when some employees were accused of submitting false registration forms with names such as "Mickey Mouse.
Just last week, prosecutors in Miami-Dade County, Fla., arrested 11 people for falsifying hundreds of voter applications during a registration drive last year."
But then immediately follows and ends with THIS:
"ACORN tipped the authorities off to the problem."
So THERE YOU GO, you IDIOTIC Conservatives who are all pent up about ACORN stealing the election! RIGHT FROM FOW NEWS ITSELF! ACORN were the ones who alerted the authorities! JUST LIKE WE SAID THEY WERE!!!
Beacuse, unless your a complete moron, you have to realize that in a crime of voter registration, ACORN WAS THE VICTIM! THEY were ones who paid thousands of dollars to people to go out and register voters from taditionally democratic areas, in hopes (obviuously) of generating Democratic VOTES. But those votes won't come if the registrations are bogus! (Not unless 'Mickey Mouse' shows up to VOTE!) ACORN were the ones defrauded here as it was THEIR MONEY and TIME that was wasted, resulting in NONE of the desired additional Democratic VOTES, by the few volunteers turned in bogus registrations!
And ACORN turned these in, AS REQUIRED BY LAW, flagged them as suspiscious, and TIPPED OF LOCAL AUTHORITES, leading to eleven arrests! You heard it from FOX!
ACORN are HEROES! They helped PUNNISH voter registration fraud!
YAY for ACORN!
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I ain't afraid of Acorn anyway... I've got Squirrels!
1 - All registration forms were to be turned in, regardless of what party affiliation was indicated on them.
2 - If someone submitted a fraudulant form (such as one for "Mickey Mouse"), we were to turn it in as well. ACORN would take care of forwarding the form to the clerk in the county where the form was completed.
3 - Anyone who generated fake registration forms in order to earn more money (such as getting manes from the phone book or filling out forms for their family members and friends) would be fired by ACORN and ACORN would notify the authorities. They had just done such a thing for two workers in teh Denver area, who had just been sentenced to jail time.
From my personal experience, I believe that ACORN is far more reputable than its critics.
But what motive would they have to disseminate THIS information? On the other hand, there's plenty of reasons to go after ACORN and paint it as a nefarious looming entity out to get us all. For one thing, ACORN registers voters who are more likely to vote (D). For another, trying to rally your rabid troops around the flag of justice against 11 people in Florida and 2 in Nevada is pointless. Much easier to rally them against a large national group like ACORN who just wants to eradicate all white males. Especially when the media will play along. Because we're not smart enough or engaged enough to demand truth. We watch Survivor and Big Brother and Wife Swap. We want drama, dammit! Facts be damned, full screed ahead!
Exactly!
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Why do you make it so easy?
O'Keefe, the person who played the pimp in the setup, refuses to answer the question of how many offices he visited before he found people gullible enough. He declined to answer that question on FOX news, and he refuses to appear on any other venue, becoming ugly and spouting a lot of venom about how the main stream media is the enemy. The woman who played the prostitute, Hanah Giles, canceled her appearance on CNN.
When challenged that he actually visited more offices than in the film, O'Keefe answers evasively that that isn't true because he has caught 3 different ACORN offices. He won't answer the question directly. Likewise, he won't release an unedited version of the film.
What major news station would run a film given this background? You are supposed to check out the honesty of a film, but the film makers are making that impossible, and then whining about the main stream media.
Oh, and O'Keefe is definitely a wingnut. He believes that ACORN receives billions of dollars in federal aid. This is an outright lie. You would think if you were doing a documentary on an organization, you could at least get that basic fact right.
When confronted by the lies of his film, he will continue to deny until it's no longer feasible. At that point, he will simply address each lie as an anomoly, keeping them separate from each other. Each will be seen as a unique fault, not the web of lies which form the foundation of the film. He will try to continue to promote it as a generally factual film. By the time that strategy starts to fail, not only will the film be old news, but millions who have seen it will already have formed deep-seated emotions toward its subject, and several other like-minded accusations will have been forwarded in its place, handily changing the subject and relegating this garbage to the memory hole of America. Think John O'Neill and Jerome Corsi...
How come that principle didn't apply to Michael Moore.
I wont give Acorn to much credit for helping Obama win but REPUBLICANS think Obama couldn't have won without him