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Beck screams and shouts about ACORN and the "souless" people in Washington

September 15, 2009 11:30 am ET

From the September 15 edition of the Premiere Radion Network's The Glenn Beck Program:

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    • Author by worrierking (September 15, 2009 11:34 am ET)
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      Soulless people in Washington?

      I thought the teabaggers went home.
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      • Author by dmhack (September 15, 2009 11:53 am ET)
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        No, the teabaggers were the hopelessly confused people.
        The soulless people are still there, but most people still call them lobbyists.
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        • Author by fairliberal (September 15, 2009 12:18 pm ET)
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          Actually they are called dimocrats. Squashing investigation after investigation into a group that they know is criminal. But of course they provide dimocratic votes so they are supported. Values be damned. Just like the Jefferson case in La, the party did nothing about it, the voters had to take matters into their own hands. And they will again in 2010.
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          • Author by magnolialover (September 15, 2009 12:32 pm ET)
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            Nobody has squashed any investigation into ACORN, seeing as how, there are still some open (as ACORN "turned themselves in" for the fraudulent voter registration thing). Do you even know what ACORN does? Probably not.

            Umm, the party in the case of Jefferson in LA, asked him to step down and resign, but they can't make him do it. You seemed to have forgotten that part. Also, I seem to remember almost every dem that I know saying the same thing. Of course they voted him out, he was corrupt, and wouldn't leave.

            Don't worry about republicans taking back anything in 2010, won't happen.
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          • Author by wzwriter (September 15, 2009 12:43 pm ET)
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            Squashing investigation after investigation into a group that they know is criminal.

            Of course, you're referring to the Bush Misadministration - right?
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            • Author by starkcr31 (September 15, 2009 3:02 pm ET)
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              So ACORN isn't criminal? Well, of course you don't think so. I mean, they did help get your god elected.
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            • Author by fairliberal (September 15, 2009 4:12 pm ET)
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              No the Bush admin didn't squash any investigations of ACORN, Pres Pelosi has however, with the Obamanation's approval it seems.
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              • Author by mary59 (September 16, 2009 12:32 am ET)
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                So you & starkraving are trying out for Becky's theatorgroup? I hear the new acronym is GOP: Greed Over Principle TeaParty Theator.

                P.S. Nancy Pelosi is not the president. And President Obama wasn't elected to play God. Those silly sentences sound slightly stupid. Sorry.
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                • Author by starkcr31 (September 16, 2009 10:41 am ET)
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                  If he wasn't elected as a god, stop treating him as one. Oops, did I forget to capitalize "him"?
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          • Author by funnymanpants (September 15, 2009 12:55 pm ET)
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            >>Squashing investigation after investigation into a group that they know is criminal.

            This is false. There have been no convictions of ACORN for voter fraud, despite the way the right wing likes to hype this.
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            • Author by juliajayne1 (September 15, 2009 1:43 pm ET)
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              Here is a good article on ACORN and the media tempest and fake outrage manufactured about supposed voter fraud.

              http://www.truthout.org/article/101808A
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            • Author by fairliberal (September 15, 2009 4:19 pm ET)
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              Who mentioned voter fraud, perhaps you should brush up on your reading skills, or perhaps it is comprehension you have difficulty with.

              But tell me are convictions your standard for guilt or innocence?
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              • Author by congero6189599 (September 15, 2009 4:29 pm ET)
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                Well you haven't made clear what your talking about ! Only point is to say ACORN is criminal, what have they done that is criminal?
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            • Author by highliter (September 15, 2009 4:50 pm ET)
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              You are so dishonest. Quit parsing words you right no voter fraud but plenty of voter registration fraud!
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              • Author by congero6189599 (September 15, 2009 5:22 pm ET)
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                Parsing words. Hardly! You obviously don't understand the difference in voter registration fraud which was carried out against ACORN by some of it's employees which ACORN found and turned in, to the actual people registered that voted. To repeat for the umpteenth time Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck did not vote,that is a fact,not parsing. They're two entirely different things.
                Some employees signed fictitious names down because they were paid by the number of signatures there is absolutley no proof that they voted(voter fraud)none, zilch, nada, nunca, got it. If you didn't know now you do,you post that BS again and we will know who the dishonest one is.
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          • Author by snoopy (September 15, 2009 2:33 pm ET)
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            Squashing investigation after investigation into a group that they know is criminal.


            I agree. It's about time they investigate the bush administration and the republican party for high crimes and treason.
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          • Author by snoopy (September 15, 2009 2:53 pm ET)
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            Prominent Kentucky GOP pol charged with murder in ex-fiancee's death

            Im quite sure it was completely justified since it was a republican doing the killing...
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            • Author by starkcr31 (September 15, 2009 3:03 pm ET)
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              No, any crime shouldn't be tolerated. As usual, you are trying to change the subject. If you honestly think ACORN isn't a criminal organization then I don't know what to tell you.
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              • Author by snoopy (September 15, 2009 3:06 pm ET)
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                It's not, but I'm inclined to believe I'd have better luck presenting the facts to a brick than talking to you.
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                • Author by starkcr31 (September 15, 2009 3:10 pm ET)
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                  Wow, what a spectacular comeback. How do you come up with these? Perhaps if you actually presented facts, you may come across as more credible.
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                  • Author by snoopy (September 15, 2009 3:11 pm ET)
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                    I'm thinking if you pointed that statement at yourself you'd be dead on.
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                    • Author by starkcr31 (September 15, 2009 3:17 pm ET)
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                      Well, when you actually present some legitimate facts, I'll take back what I said. Until then, I stand by it.
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                      • Author by snoopy (September 15, 2009 3:19 pm ET)
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                        Talking to yourself again? Some people say that's a sign of insanity.
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                      • Author by magnolialover (September 15, 2009 3:24 pm ET)
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                        As has been told to you, and people like you, ACORN turned in their employees who tried to turn in fake registration cards, and ACORN also turned itself in, and flagged said cards as probably being false.

                        ACORN employees have been fired, taken into court, fined, and in some cases jailed for their fraud.

                        ACORN itself, is NOT a criminal organization, but some of the people working for it were.

                        It's really not hard to understand is it?
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                        • Author by fairliberal (September 15, 2009 4:26 pm ET)
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                          So then , Wall St cannot be held responsible for any culpability in the financial mess, insurance cos cannot be held responsible for the health care mess, Blackwater is innocent, big business etc. All innocent parties. It is just the misdoings of a few bad individuals.

                          But how do you feel about the pattern of corruption emerging in the prostitution sting? You know the one where 3 ACORN offices are seen advising people how to obtain federal money for the purpose of prostitution and the child slave trade. I guess you will claim that they are doing good because they are advising the people to keep the children in school, in between tricks of course. Another fine example of a democratic organisation at work.
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                          • Author by congero6189599 (September 15, 2009 5:11 pm ET)
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                            ACORN has offices in over 100 cities you found some employees in 2-3 offices. Were they fired? Yes! You don't need congressional investigations if criminal laws were brokened local authorities can bring charges and should. Have there been criminal charges brought? I donate my time and money to ACORN and I'am proud of my association with them and I know first hand the good work they do. These few rotten apples does not denigrate the great and neede work many of the hard working volunteers and staff do from helping to keep people in their homes,to providing aid to the recently unemployed.
                            Your nuts to compare multi-million multi-national corporations to poor and working people organizations. Are you saying ACORN also committed murder as has Halliburton,KBR, and Blackwater...really? Your real hatred it seems is that poor and working people vote Democratic! Maybe if you conservatives supported policies that benefitted us you'd get our support. But carry on with your assualt to discredit ACORN, it ain't nothing new, and you won't make us go away and we VOTE and PAY TAXES too!
                            We'll be there whenever a house buyer is discriminated against because of his skin color. We'll be there when a worker is laid off due to the failed policies of a trickle down economy and needs assistance in obtaining food stamps or job counseling,or staying in their home. You'll see us fighting for a livable wage and for EFCA, and for healthcare based on need and not greed(healthcare is a right), you'll see us providing education and counseling to first time home buyers. ACORN is the community members coming toghether realizing that there is strenght in numbers and despite the climb, climb we must. We're not beggers , we are citizens, with just as much right to pursue the American dream as anyone and no matter how many obstacles you place before us or the name of the organization we will not go silently into the night. It ain't like we haven't had to fight before.
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                            • Author by fairliberal (September 15, 2009 8:10 pm ET)
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                              And you will be there when someone wants to import underage teen girls for the purpose of prostitution. Congratulations on your great values, you should be proud.
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                              • Author by mary59 (September 16, 2009 12:37 am ET)
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                                Only someone with a very dim wit and a barely functioning heart could reply to Conger's post in such a manner. Shame on you.
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                                • Author by starkcr31 (September 16, 2009 10:42 am ET)
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                                  THAT'S the best response you can up with? Oh dear.
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                                  • Author by mescal (September 17, 2009 3:24 am ET)
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                                    He's right, Mary. You should know by now that obnoxious sociopaths like Starkers are incapable of experiencing shame.
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                  • Author by puppienrainbows (September 15, 2009 5:09 pm ET)
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                    Joe cool stole that gem from Bawney Frank and altered it just a tad but I'll bet he threw in a little 'cyber spittle'.
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            • Author by puppienrainbows (September 15, 2009 5:02 pm ET)
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              I read the article. Was the part where he was tried and convicted redacted?
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    • Author by dr. matt (September 15, 2009 11:36 am ET)
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      He's moments away from following in his mother's footsteps.
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      • Author by wzwriter (September 15, 2009 12:06 pm ET)
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        For those of you unfamiliar with Beck's bio, both his mother and one of his siblings committed suicide. Mental disorders appear to run in his family.
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        • Author by dr. matt (September 15, 2009 12:30 pm ET)
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          Mental disorders appear to run in his family.


          There is actually a very strong familial link with mental disorders and suicidal tendencies. It's only a matter of time before Becky follows the family ways.
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (September 15, 2009 1:30 pm ET)
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            Suicidal tendencies? Mommy? Reminded me of this golden oldie:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlHHmrYUPkc
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          • Author by crimson2 (September 15, 2009 2:33 pm ET)
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            Beck's family history is irrelevant to the discussion. Plus, it sure sounds like you are rooting him on there, which would be pretty low.
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            • Author by dr. matt (September 15, 2009 2:46 pm ET)
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              No, it's quite relevant. It proves that Becky has a family history of insanity which provides further proof that he's a mentality unstable teabagging terrorist that is dangerous to America.

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              • Author by starkcr31 (September 15, 2009 3:06 pm ET)
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                Depression is hardly equivocal to insanity. Plus, you are calling someone a terrorist for simply disagreeing with you. This makes you an idiot.
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                • Author by fairliberal (September 15, 2009 4:29 pm ET)
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                  harley has a long history of idiotic behavior.
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                • Author by fairliberal (September 15, 2009 4:30 pm ET)
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                  harley has a long history of idiotic behavior.
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                  • Author by puppienrainbows (September 15, 2009 5:07 pm ET)
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                    .....and soon, Harley will trade in this screen name and avatar for a new one. I believe that could be refererred to as schizophrenic. Harley may have some familiar insight he can share with the rest of us "teabagging terrorist hicks".
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              • Author by fairliberal (September 15, 2009 4:28 pm ET)
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                So, the Obamanation has a family history of child abandonment. What does that say about him? That is just as relevant.
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                • Author by Barry Bonds (September 15, 2009 7:33 pm ET)
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                  I know caring water for the Right wing is hard but when you do it on EVERY point you really make yourself look like a buffoon.

                  At some point during your life you should exhibit a little discretion and critical thinking.
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                  • Author by fairliberal (September 15, 2009 8:16 pm ET)
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                    "At some point during your life you should exhibit a little discretion and critical thinking. "

                    Should I emulate the great minds here at MMFA? Like dr matt for example , aka harley.

                    And what is caring water?
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                    • Author by mescal (September 16, 2009 2:37 am ET)
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                      Are you really that stupid?
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                      • Author by starkcr31 (September 16, 2009 10:44 am ET)
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                        So it's stupid to question a phrase that makes no sense? Now I've heard everything.
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                        • Author by mescal (September 17, 2009 3:27 am ET)
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                          To have heard everything, you'd have to be capable of listening to and comprehending te words of others. That's a tough task for anyone who busies himself as relentlessly as you do in being a snide, petty, and nitpicking little twerp.
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                          • Author by starkcr31 (September 17, 2009 1:25 pm ET)
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                            Answer my question. Is it stupid to question a phrase that makes no sense? I'm sorry that I made you feel like the idiot you are but there's no need to get worked up.
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                            • Author by mescal (September 18, 2009 4:09 am ET)
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                              You really are transparent.

                              You do know that, don't you?

                              You're response simply made my point again about what a snide, petty, and nitpicking little twerp you are. You (and Fauxliberal)childishly seized upon a meaningless spelling error and used that as your lame-ass excuse to deny the point that was being made. It is the tactic of an eight year old. You were absolutely unable to respond to the substance of Barry's remark. You embarrassed yourselves, although I doubt that you have the requisite self awareness to realize it.

                              Just in case you both ARE that stupid, Barry was using the well-worn and highly appropriate phrase 'carrying water'.

                              And that is PRECISELY what fawning and dishonest DO for their greedy and dishonest heroes.
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                  • Author by starkcr31 (September 16, 2009 10:44 am ET)
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                    What does "caring water" mean?
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          • Author by starkcr31 (September 15, 2009 3:04 pm ET)
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            I guess Obama will be following in his father's footsteps and abandoning his family.
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            • Author by dmhack (September 15, 2009 4:54 pm ET)
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              I thought bringing up Becky's family background wasn't needed. We all know about it and I think it was the first time I saw anyone bring it up here.

              Let's leave the tasteless comments to stark and FL.

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              • Author by fairliberal (September 15, 2009 8:19 pm ET)
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                Who brought up the family history element?

                Oh right! One of your guys. Funny you didn't refer to his comments as tasteless. It is apparently appropriate to have the word hack in your screen name. Hypocrite might be more appropriate.
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                • Author by mary59 (September 16, 2009 12:42 am ET)
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                  He JUST SAID that bringing up Beck's family background wasn't needed. You really are dim. The suicides in Beck's family are a tragedy and no one should make any kind of political point about them. Period.

                  Then you come up with an equally revolting remark. Get a clue.
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                  • Author by starkcr31 (September 16, 2009 10:39 am ET)
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                    He didn't say anything opposing those comments until I brought up something similar, which was in direct response to what he said. That's the difference.
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    • Author by blueline99 (September 15, 2009 11:47 am ET)
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      Beck's delusions and need for affirmation for his hatred towards President Obama and the progressives has driven him into an obsessive paranoia that reminds of me of Moby Dick.

      Even if Beck was right and ACORN was as corrupt and evil as he believes, it wouldn't make a difference in the grand scheme of US politics. This country has endured far greater scandals at much higher costs, both politically and financially. Most of which can be pinned directly to (but not necessarily exclusively) at Republican leadership

      Iran/Contra
      Savings and Loans Bailouts
      ENRON

      But Beck and the right like to create scandals that they see as equal value and tries to stir up some false outrage. For President Clinton, it was Whitewater and Monica Lewinsky.

      Beck is an opportunists trying to divide this country and collect a paycheck.
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      • Author by worrierking (September 15, 2009 11:55 am ET)
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        At least Ahab had his reasons for hating the whale.
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        • Author by neon desert (September 15, 2009 12:38 pm ET)
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          And at least Moby Dick was intelligible. This rant from Beck, however, approaches nothing more than his narrative of the flashes of halucinations occurring in his brain as his synapses run amok like hyperactive children on an overdose of orange soda and ice cream in a McDonalds playland.

          I think that we're witnessing the unfolding of a real-life Howard Beale. For anyone who hasn't seen or doesn't remember "Network", the underlying plot of the purposeful marriage of news and entertainment was eerily prescient. Check it out some time, and see if you can watch it without constantly drawing parallels between the movie and Fox News thoughout. I can't.
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          • Author by mary59 (September 16, 2009 12:49 am ET)
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            Neon, I think your first paragraph would make a great opening to a novel. One about Beck, that should be written by Media Matters' posters....
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            • Author by starkcr31 (September 16, 2009 10:46 am ET)
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              I guess that will be similar to the old adage, a thousand monkeys writing at a thousand typewriters would create the greatest novel in the world eventually? The only part that wouldn't turn out is the greatest novel part.
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (September 15, 2009 1:32 pm ET)
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        But Beck and the right like to create scandals that they see as equal value

        Especially since ACORN is mostly a black-run organization that helps mostly black people. Gotta stay consistent with hating the black man.
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        • Author by fairliberal (September 15, 2009 4:35 pm ET)
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          It is interesting to see the standards they espouse, and the methods they employ. I'll bet most black people are equally appalled by their actions. The hard core lefties on the other hand admire their criminal behavior.
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (September 15, 2009 6:59 pm ET)
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            Wrong again. The criminal behavior has been identified and is being prosecuted. 99.9% of ACORN is NOT criminal. Make a note of it.

            It's a mainly black organization so the racist teabaggers latch on to a few low-level losers to falsely brand the entire operation as criminal.
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            • Author by fairliberal (September 15, 2009 8:22 pm ET)
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              Can you show some support for the 99.9% figure you cited. Or did you just make it up? Yup , I'll bet you did. But maybe you will surprize me and provide a link. Not.
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              • Author by Brabantio (September 15, 2009 10:22 pm ET)
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                "99.9%" is a common phrase, not a citation of an actual percentage. Have you really not ever come across it before, or are you just being a jackass?
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                • Author by starkcr31 (September 16, 2009 10:47 am ET)
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                  I guess only liberals are allowed to ask for proof of their statements. Is this correct?
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                  • Author by Brabantio (September 16, 2009 1:25 pm ET)
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                    What "proof" is supposed to be provided here? It's a common expression meaning "almost 100%". Fairliberal is acting as if it's supposed to be an actual statistic.

                    What part of this are you failing to grasp?
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                    • Author by starkcr31 (September 16, 2009 5:08 pm ET)
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                      I get the saying, but I'd like some proof that "most" of the organization is legitimate because it seems every day more and more criminals are coming out of the woodwork. It seems it goes deeper than you think.
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                      • Author by Brabantio (September 16, 2009 11:44 pm ET)
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                        If you understand the saying, then why respond to my post in the manner you did? Fairliberal made an accusation of dishonesty over a very well-known phrase, and that was what I was addressing.

                        How many people do you have marked off as corrupt, exactly? Are there only thirty or forty people in the entire organization, or what? I'm not sure what proof you need that the handful of people you're talking about constitutes a tiny percentage of the organization, outside of knowing how to operate a calculator.
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (September 15, 2009 7:18 pm ET)
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        Something which has had an effect on elections, a big effect. Yet somehow so rarely brought up in discussions about improper voting and registration.
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    • Author by The_Cat (September 15, 2009 11:55 am ET)
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      Save your righteous indignation for those who are actually trafficking in children, Mr. Beck. You seem to be falling for your own line of bullspit. There were no child prostitutes, remember? It was a RUSE. One that these people apparently pulled time after time until they finally found someone to fall for it. Those who did have been fired. ACORN is not a government program, though their 'voter registration' arm does indeed receive funding to sign poor people up to vote.

      What about your own Mormon church, sir? Child weddings? Polygamy? Incest? Of course, when this happens within your church, it's the isolated actions of a troubled few. When it 'happens' to ACORN, though, the entire edifice must be completely evil, right? I had to put quotes around 'happens' because, it was still only a ruse, wasn't it?

      I have no wish to offend Mormons. I am friends with Mormons in my private life, and they mostly seem like decent Americans for the most part. But I choose to illustrate my point in this fashion because the only thing more contemptible to me than righteous indignation from someone with no stones to throw themselves, is a HYPOCRITE. You, Mr. Beck, are a hypocrite.
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      • Author by michaelr (September 15, 2009 12:02 pm ET)
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        Catm I was thinking the same thing. If you follow Beck's logic, any large organization is evil since at some point in time at least one of its members is going to do something wrong.

        Beck never has an opposing voice on his radio show or TV show. I've never seen Beck have to defend his positions. AT LEAST O'Rielly and Hannity do this sometimes.
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      • Author by GlenInPhx (September 15, 2009 1:31 pm ET)
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        The_Cat: You are confusing the Fundamentalist Church of Latter-day Saints (eg: Warren Jeffs and clan) with the "mainstream" Mormon church. The LDS Church does not support in any way either Polygamy or child marriages.

        Of course you cannot judge an organization or a church by the acts of a few, but just as you yourself have pointed out by your accusation against the Mormon church, when such situations *do* arise then wouldn't you agree that closer scrutiny is called for, to ensure that the problem isn't systemic.

        If ACORN is as clean as they claim they are, they'll win a nice juicy lawsuit from Fox/Beck. If they aren't, that will also be seen in the light of day.
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        • Author by Brabantio (September 15, 2009 5:12 pm ET)
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          Polygamy has been grounds for excommunication within the Mormon church since the late 19th century. They had to do that in order to attain statehood for Utah.

          They're about as mainstream as you could expect for a religion that had its holy book pulled out of a hat.
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      • Author by fishgirl26 (September 15, 2009 2:00 pm ET)
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        I second all your motions. To me it is intolerable that he keeps getting to go on the air to rant and the blatant racism makes me a little ill. ACORN isn't the problem Mr. Beck it's people like you that sit and judge. You never want to help the helpless you will merely judge them and tell them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Oh the hypocracy of it all!!!
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        • Author by highliter (September 15, 2009 5:02 pm ET)
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          You want to talk about hypocrites. Liberal are only generous with other peoples money.

          http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (September 15, 2009 7:00 pm ET)
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            Guess you missed the trillion dollar war. Typical.
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            • Author by starkcr31 (September 16, 2009 10:48 am ET)
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              I guess you missed the 2 trillion we've blown on pork so far (in 8 months).
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            • Author by highliter (September 16, 2009 12:25 pm ET)
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              WTF does the war have to do with private citizens donating to charity. Nice job ignoring the Fact that conservatives are far more generous with their OWN MONEY that libs.
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          • Author by fairliberal (September 15, 2009 8:24 pm ET)
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            Yes, Kennedy was a fine example of that.
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            • Author by mary59 (September 16, 2009 12:55 am ET)
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              And when you have helped as many people have a better life as the late Senator did, you might have something worthy to say. Right now, not so much.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (September 15, 2009 12:01 pm ET)
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      Okay, so I walk up to a hooker and I tell her she should be doing something better with her life. Then what do I do? Do I just leave her to starve, because I have taken even that job from her? After I pat myself on the back for my moral superiority, do I feed, clothe, and educate her? Do I help her move into my neighborhood? If the answer is no, then why shouldn't I help the people, like ACORN, who are willing to help these people. Because, you know it isn't just hookers, it is also the mentally ill, the illiterate, and the drug-addicted who end up trying to eek out a life on the edges of society. ACORN isn't powerful to anyone but Beck and his fans because it deals with the poorest of society. A lot of us have given up on them a long time ago, but that doesn't make them go away and it doesn't take their humanity from them. If Becky is worrying about being souless, he should take a look at the man in the mirror.
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    • Author by manofmystique (September 15, 2009 12:07 pm ET)
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      "Soulless people in Washington", Beck says. This bonehead idiot doesn't know who he should be mad at. He thinks it’s the people who are trying to clean up the mess left by Republicans.
      You know who is really soulless? It's the Tea Baggers and the people who follow Glen Beck. It is obvious Beck is willing to overlook those who were leading America to destruction. Where was this lying and crying fool when Bush was leading us into a war on lies?
      Where was this bastard when Bush was running up a huge deficit?
      Where was Beck when Bush was missing in action during Katrina?
      Where was Beck's outrage when Bush ignored warning that "terrorist" was determined to attack inside America?
      How about Bush spending precious time in a class room while American was under “attack”? Why does Beck overlook all those things?
      Beck has no credibility with folks with common sense, only hateful people, people who has no humanity or soul, people who would rather drown in the sea, before allowing a black man to guise the ship to safety. It is no wonder these are the kind of people that are attractive to a deranged man (Glen Beck).
      These uneducated, hateful protesters should be mad at Big Insurance companies and the last administration. They are the criminals who abused the system and took advantage of the American people.
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    • Author by achorn316 (September 15, 2009 12:21 pm ET)
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      Beck is a LUNATC.

      Oh, and I think I figured out why he worships the Founding Fathers so much..

      they didnt like black people either.
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      • Author by manofmystique (September 15, 2009 2:36 pm ET)
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        bingo!!!!
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      • Author by starkcr31 (September 15, 2009 3:07 pm ET)
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        Ah, finally someone drags race into it. It has to happen in every post. I think that's some kind of law now.
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        • Author by snoopy (September 15, 2009 3:13 pm ET)
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          It's not our fault that beck is a racist and reichpublicans play the race card every day as they whine about how unfair it is that they can't call president Obama the n word...
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          • Author by starkcr31 (September 15, 2009 3:20 pm ET)
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            As usual, you assume peoples' intentions or wants when it supports your agenda. They want to call Obama the "n word". You have no evidence to back up this absurdly idiotic claim. Like other idiot liberals, you assume everyone that disagrees with your god HAS TO BE A RACIST. I guess you were racist against George W. Bush, right? Oh wait, only a conservative can be racist. Is that correct?
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            • Author by magnolialover (September 15, 2009 3:26 pm ET)
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              The only idiots who claim Obama is a God, are right wingers.

              Based on what republicans/conservatives have said about Obama over the last year and a half, it's pretty reasonable to assume that behind closed doors, and when their microphones are off, I'm sure the N word has slipped out more than once.

              Everybody who opposes Obama is NOT a racist, but all racists oppose Obama.

              Not only conservatives can be racist, but they sure have cornered the market lately.
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              • Author by starkcr31 (September 15, 2009 3:35 pm ET)
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                "I'm sure the N word has slipped out more than once."

                Here we go again with "I'm sure" or "probably". You make assumptions about people. It's sort of like when you assumed Obama would make a good president based on no evidence. That didn't work out very well for you, did it? When Beck called Obama a racist he lost a bunch of advertisers even though the guy belonged to a racist church for 20 years. Do I think Beck is right? Probably not, but it seems odd that someone would belong to a racist church for so long and not be one themselves. My point is that Beck based his albeit extreme comment on legitimate evidence. He didn't just pull it out of thin air.
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                • Author by Brabantio (September 15, 2009 5:02 pm ET)
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                  How is it a racist church if they allowed white people to join?
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                  • Author by starkcr31 (September 16, 2009 10:49 am ET)
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                    Apparently you're deaf because you didn't hear the clips. Have someone transcribe them for you.
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                    • Author by Brabantio (September 16, 2009 1:21 pm ET)
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                      Was that supposed to answer the question? Provide specifics if you want to make a case.
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                      • Author by starkcr31 (September 16, 2009 5:09 pm ET)
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                        http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/06/rev-wright-blames-them-jews-for-keeping-president-from-talking-to-him.html
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                        • Author by Brabantio (September 16, 2009 11:37 pm ET)
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                          As mentioned on the other thread, you're trying to support the claim that Obama hates white people by citing a comment made by Wright about Jews.

                          That makes no sense.
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                          • Author by starkcr31 (September 17, 2009 1:28 pm ET)
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                            I'm making a point that he's racist. Just because that particular quote doesn't say he hates white people, it doesn't mean he's not a racist.

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                            • Author by Brabantio (September 17, 2009 6:38 pm ET)
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                              But Beck's assertion is that Obama hates white people. Even if you were to prove that Wright hates Jewish people, how does that support the charge against Obama?
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              • Author by fairliberal (September 15, 2009 4:39 pm ET)
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                The N word does slip out at times and 99 times out of 100 it is a black person using it. Right Jessie?
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                • Author by Brabantio (September 15, 2009 4:56 pm ET)
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                  So because black people use the term in a non-discriminatory manner, that excuses the use of it in a racist manner? Is that your point?
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                  • Author by fairliberal (September 15, 2009 8:40 pm ET)
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                    Offensive words like that have a much better chance of disappearing when all people adhere to the same standards. That is my point. Jesse Jackson lectures others on the use of the word and then uses it himself, is that right?

                    If the word is bad , it is bad for all. Isn't that equality? Or do we go with two sets of rules?
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                    • Author by Brabantio (September 15, 2009 10:18 pm ET)
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                      Obviously it makes a difference who is using the term, so the argument about "equality" is utterly inane. Whether it's effective for the black community to embrace the word in an effort to diffuse it or not, that's their choice. It has no bearing on the clear racism it conveys when used by anyone else.
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                      • Author by starkcr31 (September 17, 2009 1:29 pm ET)
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                        It's inane? So, standards being different for different races is equality?
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                        • Author by Brabantio (September 17, 2009 6:46 pm ET)
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                          Circumstances make a difference. Black people using the n-word aren't very likely making a racist comment against black people. When it's a white person using the word, it very likely is a racist comment.

                          It's a matter of determining intent. If you have an inside joke with your wife about calling her a "bitch", then she knows you're not really insulting her when you say that. If some stranger on the street says the same thing to her, that's another story. So there are different standards based on the intent of the comment.
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              • Author by puppienrainbows (September 15, 2009 5:18 pm ET)
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                Many, in Obama's own party, black and white, oppose Obama's policies to some degree. Are they racists?
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                • Author by Brabantio (September 15, 2009 5:28 pm ET)
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                  Many, in Obama's own party, black and white, oppose Obama's policies to some degree. Are they racists?

                  Everybody who opposes Obama is NOT a racist, but all racists oppose Obama.

                  Not only conservatives can be racist, but they sure have cornered the market lately.
                  I'm not sure why that post required clarification.
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            • Author by snoopy (September 15, 2009 3:27 pm ET)
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              Actually, we've presented plenty of evidence. Between the racist signs the teabaggers carried, to several racist e-mails circulated by various GOPers, to becks and limbaughs own racist statements, there's a mountain of evidence. The problem is people like you refuse to admit it's true. All republicans aren't racist, but as we've seen over and over most racists are republicans.

              And fyi, I don't assume anyone who disagrees with me is a racist. I only assume anyone who goes out of their way to defend racist statements is one. Big difference.
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              • Author by starkcr31 (September 15, 2009 3:30 pm ET)
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                Are racists out there? Of course. I never denied that, but liberals seem to think that every time someone disagrees with Obama it's because he's black. That's absurd. I don't defend racist statements, but I defend statements that are in no way racist being called racist. Do you see the difference?
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                • Author by snoopy (September 15, 2009 3:38 pm ET)
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                  When it happens, feel free to call it. However, contrary to your sweeping claim about liberals they aren't claiming every disagreement with Obama is racist. There is however a racial undertone that has come to the forefront, and absent any GOP leadership standing up to it and denouncing it for what it is it is inevitable that the entire republican party will first be seen as silently approving of it to eventually being seen as advocating it. If you don't want to see it happen, talk to the GOP leadership.
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                  • Author by starkcr31 (September 15, 2009 4:22 pm ET)
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                    All I know is a vast majority of the comments made about Obama that were deemed "racist" were clearly not racist. You say there are racial undertones. That's how you choose to take it. I don't see it (Most of the time. There are exceptions, of course). Unless there is better evidence than that, I refuse to consider it racist just because people choose to misconstrue what someone is saying. I will give you that Limbaugh is most likely a racist, but I haven't heard anything from Beck or Hannity that suggests they are. What Joe Wilson did was stupid and out of line, but had nothing to do with race, as many on the left are trying to make it (as usual). I find this extremely week and childish. What Beck said about Obama is perhaps stupid and wrong but not racist (when he said Obama is a racist). If that were true, half the liberals would be racist for calling others racist. I've been called a racist plenty of times because I disagree with Obama, but I'm not one. Does that make the accuser a racist? No, it makes them an idiot. When liberals call Michael Steele a "token black person" for the GOP, is that not racist?
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                  • Author by juliajayne1 (September 15, 2009 4:38 pm ET)
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                    Starsky was called out yesterday for broad and false generalizations of liberals.

                    But he seems comfortable in not thinking that an aggregate of pertinent information presented, which show that racists abound on the conservative side is fair. We shouldn't use that same broad brush he uses, regardless of facts.

                    Gee, cognitive dissonance?

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                    • Author by starkcr31 (September 16, 2009 10:52 am ET)
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                      As usual, you don't respond to anything I've said. I guess I should get used to that.
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                      • Author by mescal (September 17, 2009 3:30 am ET)
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                        I think she's waiting for you to say something worth responding to.
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                        • Author by starkcr31 (September 17, 2009 1:30 pm ET)
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                          Well perhaps you should take your own advice.
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                          • Author by mescal (September 18, 2009 4:14 am ET)
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                            That wasn't advise, Einstein. You seemed confused and more than a touch self pitying, and I merely explained what should already have been obvious.

                            You're welcome, by the way.
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    • Author by o rly (September 15, 2009 12:26 pm ET)
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      I think we may be witnessing Glenn's slow unravelling. Either that or he's an exceptionally good actor.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (September 15, 2009 12:40 pm ET)
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      This ACORN stuff is just crazy. There big crime apparently is that they support democrats. (GO figure they advocate of the poor, which is also part of what the democrats do! DUH!)

      I just got an email from a conservative friend of mine. It's a fox news piece proclaiming that

      "Senate Votes to Cut Off ACORN Housing Funding The 83-7 vote would deny housing and community grant funding to the organization..."

      Now I have no idea at all if this is accutrate, but something rather amazing happens towards the end.

      They highlight the voter registration fruad inditments (of course):

      "In recent months, Republicans have become increasingly critical of the census' ties with ACORN. The group, which advocates for poor people, conducted a massive voter registration effort last year and became a target of conservatives when some employees were accused of submitting false registration forms with names such as "Mickey Mouse.

      Just last week, prosecutors in Miami-Dade County, Fla., arrested 11 people for falsifying hundreds of voter applications during a registration drive last year.
      "

      But then immediately follows and ends with THIS:

      "ACORN tipped the authorities off to the problem."

      So THERE YOU GO, you IDIOTIC Conservatives who are all pent up about ACORN stealing the election! RIGHT FROM FOW NEWS ITSELF! ACORN were the ones who alerted the authorities! JUST LIKE WE SAID THEY WERE!!!

      Beacuse, unless your a complete moron, you have to realize that in a crime of voter registration, ACORN WAS THE VICTIM! THEY were ones who paid thousands of dollars to people to go out and register voters from taditionally democratic areas, in hopes (obviuously) of generating Democratic VOTES. But those votes won't come if the registrations are bogus! (Not unless 'Mickey Mouse' shows up to VOTE!) ACORN were the ones defrauded here as it was THEIR MONEY and TIME that was wasted, resulting in NONE of the desired additional Democratic VOTES, by the few volunteers turned in bogus registrations!

      And ACORN turned these in, AS REQUIRED BY LAW, flagged them as suspiscious, and TIPPED OF LOCAL AUTHORITES, leading to eleven arrests! You heard it from FOX!

      ACORN are HEROES! They helped PUNNISH voter registration fraud!

      YAY for ACORN!

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      I ain't afraid of Acorn anyway... I've got Squirrels!
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      • Author by wzwriter (September 15, 2009 12:52 pm ET)
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        I worked for ACORN during a couple of voter registration drives in Colorado. Before they sent us out, we were sat down and read the rules.

        1 - All registration forms were to be turned in, regardless of what party affiliation was indicated on them.

        2 - If someone submitted a fraudulant form (such as one for "Mickey Mouse"), we were to turn it in as well. ACORN would take care of forwarding the form to the clerk in the county where the form was completed.

        3 - Anyone who generated fake registration forms in order to earn more money (such as getting manes from the phone book or filling out forms for their family members and friends) would be fired by ACORN and ACORN would notify the authorities. They had just done such a thing for two workers in teh Denver area, who had just been sentenced to jail time.

        From my personal experience, I believe that ACORN is far more reputable than its critics.
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        • Author by neon desert (September 15, 2009 1:13 pm ET)
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          Republicans are aware of all this. Don't think that they don't have people "embedded" in groups like ACORN in order to keep an eye on them. And if they were truthful, they'd have to admit that ACORN is probably less corrupt than College Republicans, the group that turned out such fine upstanding citizens as Jack Abramoff. Want to talk about guilt by association?

          But what motive would they have to disseminate THIS information? On the other hand, there's plenty of reasons to go after ACORN and paint it as a nefarious looming entity out to get us all. For one thing, ACORN registers voters who are more likely to vote (D). For another, trying to rally your rabid troops around the flag of justice against 11 people in Florida and 2 in Nevada is pointless. Much easier to rally them against a large national group like ACORN who just wants to eradicate all white males. Especially when the media will play along. Because we're not smart enough or engaged enough to demand truth. We watch Survivor and Big Brother and Wife Swap. We want drama, dammit! Facts be damned, full screed ahead!
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        • Author by congero6189599 (September 15, 2009 5:29 pm ET)
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          "...From my personal experience, I believe that ACORN is far more reputable than its critics."
          Exactly!
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        • Author by fairliberal (September 15, 2009 8:42 pm ET)
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          How did they advise you on advice to people setting up prostitution rings and importing teens for the purpose of prostitution?
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    • Author by funnymanpants (September 15, 2009 1:06 pm ET)
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      >>From my personal experience, I believe that ACORN is far more reputable than its critics.

      O'Keefe, the person who played the pimp in the setup, refuses to answer the question of how many offices he visited before he found people gullible enough. He declined to answer that question on FOX news, and he refuses to appear on any other venue, becoming ugly and spouting a lot of venom about how the main stream media is the enemy. The woman who played the prostitute, Hanah Giles, canceled her appearance on CNN.

      When challenged that he actually visited more offices than in the film, O'Keefe answers evasively that that isn't true because he has caught 3 different ACORN offices. He won't answer the question directly. Likewise, he won't release an unedited version of the film.

      What major news station would run a film given this background? You are supposed to check out the honesty of a film, but the film makers are making that impossible, and then whining about the main stream media.

      Oh, and O'Keefe is definitely a wingnut. He believes that ACORN receives billions of dollars in federal aid. This is an outright lie. You would think if you were doing a documentary on an organization, you could at least get that basic fact right.
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      • Author by neon desert (September 15, 2009 1:28 pm ET)
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        I believe it's called "plausible deniability", and it has gone beyond the artful craft of knowing when to say "don't tell me - I don't want to know" into full-blown prevarication.

        When confronted by the lies of his film, he will continue to deny until it's no longer feasible. At that point, he will simply address each lie as an anomoly, keeping them separate from each other. Each will be seen as a unique fault, not the web of lies which form the foundation of the film. He will try to continue to promote it as a generally factual film. By the time that strategy starts to fail, not only will the film be old news, but millions who have seen it will already have formed deep-seated emotions toward its subject, and several other like-minded accusations will have been forwarded in its place, handily changing the subject and relegating this garbage to the memory hole of America. Think John O'Neill and Jerome Corsi...
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      • Author by fairliberal (September 15, 2009 8:44 pm ET)
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        "You would think if you were doing a documentary on an organization, you could at least get that basic fact right. "

        How come that principle didn't apply to Michael Moore.
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        • Author by mary59 (September 16, 2009 1:04 am ET)
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          You've got another false comparison. Michael Moore fact checks his films. All the right wing sites trying to debunk his films don't have any material.
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          • Author by starkcr31 (September 17, 2009 1:33 pm ET)
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            Wow that's hilarious. If you think there are facts in those Michael Moore films, you have truly gone off the deep end.
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            • Author by mescal (September 18, 2009 4:23 am ET)
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              If, by going off the deep end, you mean that Mary doesn't solely rely on the Faux News Channels, Freeperville, and reich wing talk radio for her information, then you're spot on. She is clearly a bright, well-read, and articulate woman who is always a pleasure to read on this board. One can, however, see why someone like her would draw your scorn and derision, as these are all classic liberal practices.
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    • Author by MatthewTexas (September 15, 2009 2:14 pm ET)
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      Glenn Beck is CLEARLY trying to set up the 2010 version of the "Contract with America" for republicans.

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    • Author by MatthewTexas (September 15, 2009 3:08 pm ET)
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      Acorn wasn't a problem for REPUBLICANS until they helped Obama win the 2008 election.

      I wont give Acorn to much credit for helping Obama win but REPUBLICANS think Obama couldn't have won without him
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    • Author by blesscurse (September 15, 2009 3:57 pm ET)
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      The pathetic petty criminality of a dozen or so minimum wage ACORN workers pales in comparison with the large scale fraud and corruption engaged in by the likes of Halliburton, Blackwater/Xe, Countryside, etc., tolerated and encouraged during the Bush Administration.
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      • Author by juliajayne1 (September 15, 2009 4:43 pm ET)
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        Yes, petty and stupid by comparison, geared to keep you from looking at what's really happening in the larger world, of course.
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    • Author by Bronwyn (September 16, 2009 11:36 pm ET)
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      GOOD GOD AMERICA, WHAT IS WRONG WITH US? THAT WE WOULD ALLOW THIS IDIOT ON OUR AIR WAVES?
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