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Fox News falsely claims Wash. Post reported Bush had 16 "czars" to assert Obama has "twice as many"

September 16, 2009 6:21 pm ET

From the September 16 edition of Fox News' Your World with Neil Cavuto:

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In fact, in the September 16 article Fox News cited, The Washington Post reported that "By one count, Bush had 36 czar positions filled by 46 people during his eight years as president."

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    • Author by bintx (September 16, 2009 6:25 pm ET)
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      One of Bush's "czars" [aka advisors] was Karl Rove. He did not have to be vetted, he was simply there. No Congressional oversight, no Congressional approval.

      Interesting, don't you think, that old TB is sitting in disapproving judgment of the folks who hold the same position that HE held. Jerk.
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    • Author by shaggles (September 16, 2009 6:26 pm ET)
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      Who gives a flying f**k how many czars Bush had or Obama has? This whole czar fixation is idiotic.
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (September 16, 2009 6:42 pm ET)
           
        I suppose if I look arround I might find out what criteria wingnuttia is using to designate czarhood. Got a feeling the bar is set on the ground for this administration.
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    • Author by thename (September 16, 2009 6:37 pm ET)
         
      "It didn't work out well for the last guy who was an actual 'czar'"?!?

      Really Cavuto? With all the Teabaggers' veiled threats toward the President you wanna bring up this?!
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    • Author by pamom (September 16, 2009 6:38 pm ET)
         
      I just had a friend quote the number 16 to me. When I told her she was wrong, she said she got the number from the news. Knowing it was Fox (even though she didn't tell me), I told her I would research it and provide her with a link. How nice to come and find the exact proof I needed, right down to the fact that they had made up the number despite the article quoting something very different...... Maybe, just maybe, she'll start thinking for herself.
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    • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (September 16, 2009 6:54 pm ET)
         
      America has no Czars. Therefore, Neither Bush nor Obama had or have any. Thay had advisors nicknamed "Czars," but they weren't really czars.

      To Fox, as Joe Bob Briggs says, "I don't know why I have to explain this to you."
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    • Author by antihannity2009 (September 16, 2009 7:22 pm ET)
         
      Wow, I'm actually surprised that Fox admitted that Bush had these 'czars'. Usually they would deny it or just call them advisers and say that they are not the same. When in fact the czars are just advisers. The whole 'czar' thing is being over used by the right to make people afraid that they're from communist Russia or something.

      That's a great point that Karl Rove was one of these 'czars' and no one vetted him or anything.
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    • Author by The_Cat (September 16, 2009 7:35 pm ET)
         
      Hey, wait a minute! Isn't that a sign of the Apocalypse? Major Garrett was allowed to ask a question, and he even got an answer! I thought that never happened to Fox's White House reporter.

      As for czars, they're a fixture, thanks to Nixon. Just too big and complicated of a world for one person to know it all. So, policy advisers have been around for almost 40 years now, and truthfully probably longer, though Nixon coined the term. Since they, for the most part Mr. Rove (ahem), do not -make- policy, but only advise, I don't see a need for most of them to be vetted. Now, if you are in charge of something like the ONDCP (Drug Czar), then it is important to make sure the person being considered for the position is qualified. Of course, for that position all you need is a strong willingness to tell other people how to live their life, and an aversion to scientific fact. That's another story for another day, though.
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      • Author by John Paradox (September 16, 2009 9:02 pm ET)
           
        Has no one noticed that there is no Constitutional justification for the Cabinet?

        http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articleii.html
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    • Author by njguy93 (September 16, 2009 8:03 pm ET)
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      The term "czar" was really coined by Richard Nixon. The official count of "czars" would probably begin in the Nixon Administration, but positions that are basically these "czars" go back much further than Nixon. Most of the "czars" actually have formal job titles and many of those positions have been used in both Republican and Democratic Administrations. These "czars" can advise and can also have influence on policy as well. There are many unelected people besides "czars" who influence policy as well. President Obama has many of his Chicago advisers now working for him in the White House, just as President Bush had many of his Texas advisers working for him in his White House. There are always advisers who influence and help to shape policy that are unelected and brought in by the President or by someone else into an Administration. Karl Rove had a great influence on policy, which many think was to the Bush Administration's detriment and was a misteke. He was never elected to anything and never confirmed by the Senate. So the selective and feigned outrage is quite a bit on the nauseating side.

      THANK YOU.
      njguy93@yahoo.com
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    • Author by Bad News (September 17, 2009 1:02 am ET)
         
      Fix that News Fox.


      Mr. News
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