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Olbermann cites comments by Beck, O'Reilly, Limbaugh in segment on whether opposition to Obama is "racially motivated"

September 16, 2009 9:33 pm ET

From the September 16 edition of MSNBC's Countdown:

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    • Author by Barry Bonds (September 16, 2009 9:39 pm ET)
         
      Not strong enough. We need a left wing version of limbaugh.
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      • Author by mescal (September 17, 2009 2:00 am ET)
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        Sorry, Barry, but you're wrong, and for this simple reason: anyone who employs the constant lying and the vicious smear tactics of Limpballs is, by definition, a right winger.
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      • Author by bintx (September 17, 2009 10:04 am ET)
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        No, we don't. We don't need ANYBODY from either side of the political spectrum like Rush . . . the less hate and lies that are spread, the better.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (September 16, 2009 9:44 pm ET)
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      Come on, Keith...not one of these guys has ever lynched a black person. Not one of them has ever dragged a black man behind a car. That's what real racists do, right...? Not regular white guys who are simply proud of their superiority and who are unashamed to point out when someone of another race is inferior. sarcasm
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    • Author by dmhack (September 16, 2009 10:23 pm ET)
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      Looks like the trolls took the night off (or the nursing home computer is down again), so I'll fill in.

      Olbermann should talk! He's always saying racist things. Just check out this WND link if you don't believe me.
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    • Author by MagCynic (September 16, 2009 11:04 pm ET)
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      All this "evidence" of racism on the right don't support the reality of things. If Beck was really a racist why would he bring on black commentators whom he agrees with? If Limbaugh was a racist why would he employ a black call screener? I'm a conservative so I'm automatically a racist. If I'm racist why would I look to managers at work - many of whom are minorities - as mentors?
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      • Author by vysotsky (September 17, 2009 5:00 am ET)
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        Olbermann never called Beck a racist. He described Beck's attacks and accusations against Obama as racist. He didn't call Limbaugh or O'Reilly racists; he characterized their attacks as racially motivated and racist.

        This is not a trivial distinction. This is not splitting hairs. You claim that Olbermann engaged in an ad hominem attack against Beck, O'Reilly and Limbaugh when he did no such thing. Olbermann certainly did not assert that anyone conservative must be "automatically a racist" as you seem to think.

        It is, however, perfectly reasonable to suggest that this persistent nonsense -- nonsense that Limbaugh exploits on his show -- about how the first African American president must have been born in Africa without a shred of positive evidence and against a world of facts to contrary smacks of racism. I'm not saying that Limbaugh is a racist at all: I don't know the man and I have no proof that he even believes anything that he says on air. The fact that his call screener is black has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not his comments about Obama are at best playing upon racial fears.

        And, after all, the fact that Obama's staff includes white people didn't stop Beck from calling Obama a racist. In fact, let's compare what Olbermann said about Beck, Limbaugh and O'Reilly to Glenn Beck's charge that President Obama -- or as Beck put it, "this guy" -- is a racist with a deep seated hatred of white people or white culture. Beck didn't call Obama's policies racist, he didn't call Obama's religious views racist, he didn't call Obama's arguments or rhetoric racist: Beck just flat out called Obama a racist. But if you in fact listened to what Olbermann actually said, you would know that Olbermann called the attacks racist and never once in the segment called any of those commentators racist.
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      • Author by bintx (September 17, 2009 10:10 am ET)
           
        I would suggest that you read up on Glenn Beck's idol, Cleon Skousen. Beck admired this man to the point that he had one of his books reprinted and wrote the foreword for it. The majority of Beck's schtick is based upon Skousen's very frightening and FALSE writings and beliefs. Skousen was an unabashed and PROUD racist. Beck has stated that he doesn't have any "black" friends because he's afraid he might say something that would offend them.

        I can't believe that you used the "If Limbaugh was a racist, why would he employ a black call screener" excuse. Being a racist doesn't mean that you don't associate with black people, just means that you think that you are ABOVE them, you are BETTER than them. Obviously, as the employer, Rush is "better" than his employee. False equivalency.

        Oh, and Beck is NOT a conservative and neither is Limbaugh . . . they are ENTERTAINERS who are selling a product and if you are buying their phony spiel, neither are you. You are simply a groupie.
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        • Author by MagCynic (September 17, 2009 11:35 am ET)
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          Do you mind telling me what a conservative is then? I mean, if you know for sure that Beck and Limbaugh aren't one, surely you can tell me what one is.
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    • Author by Bad News (September 17, 2009 12:52 am ET)
         
      Go get them Keith.


      Mr. News
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    • Author by HotWings (September 17, 2009 1:27 am ET)
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      So criticizing Obama makes you a racist? Come on. That's just stupid.
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      • Author by vysotsky (September 17, 2009 5:02 am ET)
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        That is stupid. Even more stupid would be to pretend that any serious person has ever actually argued that merely criticizing Obama makes you a racist.
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      • Author by bintx (September 17, 2009 10:11 am ET)
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        Don't know of anybody who has said that, so I'm guessing that you are the one who is just stupid.
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    • Author by MagCynic (September 17, 2009 12:46 pm ET)
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