O'Reilly: "The conservative media is winning now. They're winning. They're damaging the president of the United States"
From the September 16 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:
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O'REILLY: You see, you got to get in the real world. Look, there's a media civil war going on. Colmes did hit on something intelligent.
ALAN COLMES: That's amazing you would say that.
O'REILLY: The right wing now -- the right wing of which you are a part, right-wing radio is now going to relentlessly attack Obama, using vehicles like ACORN, Jones, whatever radical left thing they can find. They're going to tie it right around Obama's neck because it's working.
MONICA CROWLEY: Well, and also, I mean, let's face it, Obama is Van Jones. Obama is ACORN --
O'REILLY: Oh, no.
CROWLEY: Hang on --
O'REILLY: Oh, please.
CROWLEY: You guys are downplaying his ties to ACORN. These ties between Obama and ACORN are deep and longstanding. It's not just representing them as a lawyer. He partnered with ACORN in '92 for his Project Vote organization in Chicago. He also became an ACORN trainer. In response --
COLMES: Not true.
CROWLEY: -- ACORN fanned out for his campaigns in '96 and 2000 in the state of Illinois --
O'REILLY: No, they let them, absolutely.
CROWLEY: -- and last year as well. Let's also remember that during the presidential campaign last year, he told ACORN point blank, you will have, quote, "a seat at the table in my administration."
O'REILLY: He likes them.
CROWLEY: So let's not downplay the fact he was very proud of being a community organizer. That was ACORN.
O'REILLY: All of that -- all of that is legitimate, but the bigger -- look, people can make up their own minds at home whether Obama and ACORN have an association that's worth -- you're smart enough to do that. But the big story, Colmes, is that the right-wing media, the conservative media in this country, has found a way --
COLMES: Well, let's -- but I think that --
O'REILLY: -- to marginalize --
COLMES: -- all right.
O'REILLY: -- the president of the United States.
COLMES: They need to be called out on that if it's unfair, if it's not fair to do it.
O'REILLY: Well, what do you mean -- look, fair doesn't really cut it. It's effective.
COLMES: It was not --
O'REILLY: It's working.
COLMES: I think it's important to point out the other side of the story that Dr. Crowley just mentioned. There -- he was not community organizer for ACORN.
CROWLEY: Of course he was.
COLMES: He was a community organizer --
CROWLEY: Alan, he trained their community organizers.
COLMES: -- he did not -- no --
O'REILLY: Let Colmes get his.
COLMES: That is not -- that is not accurate. And that is not accurate according to what has been said.
O'REILLY: I don't know why you care about this.
COLMES: Because I want the truth out there.
O'REILLY: OK.
COLMES: Let's not unfairly smear somebody --
O'REILLY: The truth will set us all free.
COLMES: Yeah.
O'REILLY: I'm going to go back to my question, which is a brilliant one, Colmes. And --
COLMES: By your own admission.
O'REILLY: -- try to consider -- try to consider it. The conservative media is winning now. They're winning. They're damaging the president of the United States by Jones, by ACORN --
COLMES: Yeah, right.
O'REILLY: -- and there's other stuff coming down the pike. So you're advising President Obama, Colmes. You like him.
COLMES: Yeah.
O'REILLY: You think he's a good president and so forth. You tell him to do what? How do you blunt that?
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These are some anti Americans and anti patriots. Disgusting. And as virulent as they are, they're still not bringing down the President. Nor will they. Their brand of wilful nastiness and unvarnished hatred was proven to be ineffective in the last two elections. And in this awful economy, the president is still enjoying some pretty decent numbers. (Thanks, Mags)
Too bad, so sad, suckers. Keep digging.
ACORN...Pimps...Voter fraud...
Hi JJ. I got into it with an old friend (who happens to be a wingnut)on Facebook last night. She was outraged that Jimmy Carter would "fan the flames" by publicly stating the obvious, that there's a lot of racism in the Obama derangement Syndrome.
I asked, pretty politely, why this struck a nerve, and got into a back and forth with her and a co-wingnut that chimed in.
After many strawmen ("Everybody who disagrees with Obama's policy is a racist", etc.) she cited Obama's "tanking" poll numbers as proof that there was no racism. That is, some former supporters are unhappy with him, and they can't be racists, case closed.
The wingnut brain is a fascinating mutant.
BTW, the biggest drop in approval ratings during one's presidency is a tie between Harry S. Truman and . . . . George W. Bush at 65% Truman and GWB are followed closely by George H.W. at 60% Shoot, Jimmy Carter comes in a weak 4th at 47%
Nice try, but you are, as usual, wrong.
Oh and nice try only the biggest drops in approval rating comment you know dam well the only reason they have the biggest drop is because they also had the biggest highs. Both bushes attained 90% approval.
EPIC FAIL
All poling number courtesy of Gallop!
So using thoes numbers how was I wrong again?
President Bush will leave office as one of the most unpopular departing presidents in history, according to a new CBS News/New York Times poll showing Mr. Bush's final approval rating at 22 percent.
Seventy-three percent say they disapprove of the way Mr. Bush has handled his job as president over the last eight years.
Mr. Bush's final approval rating is the lowest final rating for an outgoing president since Gallup began asking about presidential approval more than 70 years ago.
Bush's Final Approval Rating: 22 Percent...
I'm sorry -- what did Bubble Boy finish with, again?
The man is both smug and disgusting. Re-runs of Seinfeld get more veiwers than he does and he thinks of himself and the be all.
Heck, America's Got Talent does nearly 5 times what he does.
And while Van Jones is a "win", Obama beating Palin/McCain was a bigger win. Actually, the battle was between Van Jones and Beck and Jones already has another job, and Beck is still losing ads.
Now you have an apples to apples comparison.
Oh, and O'Reilly sending his wuss reporters to stalk people who disagree with him -- very classy.
BRAVO!
That's what his wingnut sheeple followers keep reminding us whenever he gets called out . . .
Actually, in MY world, I see things as they are, it is YOU who sees whatever Bill O'Reilly tells you to see.
What alternate reality do you live in? If you don't believe Bill O was bragging, I have some lake front property on the moon I want to sell you!!!
Of course not! O'Reilly is very troubled by conservatives' attempts to damage Democrats. You can tell it when O'Reilly says to Colmes, "I don't know why you care about this."
O'Reilly: "The conservative media is winning now. They're winning. . . . "
Yeah, right, FAILliberal -- that doesn't sound AT ALL like bragging . . .
Thing is, he's still polling pretty well. Maybe you ought to take your head out of your, well, you know, and see what the rest of the country is saying, not just your sycophantic viewers:
Obama Job Approval.
I had noticed a method that Fox uses, where they state the amount of people who strongly agree versus the amount that strongly disagree. In situations like that, it may show 29% Strongly Agree, 45% Strongly Disagree, but they fail to report the remaining 26% of the opinions on the president, so it appears that the president is polling poorly.
I learned the ethics involved in statistical reporting in my statistics courses, where you could make a bar graph appear more favorable to your view if you change the scale. Fox News is skewing facts to make it appear as if they are right.
Sexy!
With Bush, they combined the strongly support and good job results to compare them to the strongly against and poor job results. Now, they don't even display those numbers - they only compare those people (Dems) who think he's doing a bang-up job with those rabid righties who think he's the Anti-Christ.
Bush's total approval rating his last year in office were in the 35% range, with 60-64% disapproving. Just 13% said that they strongly approved of what Bush had done, and 43% strongly disapproved. Obama's numbers aren't close to being that bad, but Rasmussen never brings up that comparison. They used to compare Bush's bad numbers to other Dems who had bad numbers, but not now. Currently 32% of Americans polled by Rasmussen strongly approve, and 43% strongly disapprove
What's up with Rasmussen? Their results show the president has a 52 disapproval and 42 approval--that's not even close to the other polls.
They do a rolling 3 day average, and call people on landlines, so they get many older people and fewer young people. They also call 7 days a week, and so they get people who stay at home and don't go out.
In addition, they also often throw in other polling questions that distort results. A recent example is their question about racism. They asked "Are most people who oppose the President’s health care plan doing so because they are racist?" They could have asked that question in a much-less partisan way and gotten a much different result, but they won't.
Thanks.
Obama is a free fall and is polling very badly in comparison to recent presidents. Keep fooling yourself that he is pooling well. Didn’t you see the gap on the very link you posed he is dropping like a stone.
Well dude, if he was "pooling" well, why would he be dropping like a stone? Hmmmn?
Barack Obama, George W. Bush RCP Job Approval...
Just out of curiosity, lowlighter . . .
If you consider Obama's 10-15 point drop in approval ratings a "free fall", what do you consider Sarah Palin's nearly THIRTY point drop in about the same amount of time?
And that was BEFORE Sarah's long {and rambling} goodbye . . .
Welcome to PLANET WINGNUT!
. . . where Obama's approval rating can drop ten points -- yet still remain above 50% -- and he's in "free fall and not polling well" . . .
. . . while the 20% -- or less -- who were loyal followers of George W. Bush thought they formed a majority . . .
EPIC FAIL
Also it would be nice if you all could go one day with out resorting to name calling.
But they imagine the prize to be capturing the congress and the White House.
That may be part of the prize but the grand prize is the failed state in place of the former "United States".
Or are you looking for a quote of BilldO saying "I am gleeful !"
Did you watch one of those lawyer shows last night?
Precisely, a.y.e., BilldO spends most of his show doing the same BS as every right wing fanatic on the am radio, then brings on guests who are a little more shameless about spewing lies and wingnut vitriol. During these segments, BO gets to play "good cop" for a minute or two.
Pretty transparent to anybody who hasn't been into the Kool Aid, but the slower types can be tricked into thinking they're seeing Fair & Balanced.
So, are you arguing that Bill O'Reilly is really a closet Obama supporter, and just too afraid to show his true colors to his friends?
Put down the goalposts.
The way to win, is to lie, lie, lie and lie some more.
The sad thing is, this is working, judging from the way my friends and relatives are lapping it up as truth.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/16/fact-check-was-doing-legal-work-obamas-only-involvement-with-acorn/
When will reasonable, smart people who know the truth just stop appearing on these crappy shows?
C'mon guys! Just refuse to play a role in their lies! Please!
When did the media stop being the eyes and ears of the people into being players in the game?
The role of the media isn't to win? The role of society isn't fracture people and compete for winners and losers?
The fact that he said the word "winning" is an acknowledgement that Fox isn't Fair and Balanced... they have an agenda (I know something obvious to most but completely denied by Fox) You have to have an agenda in order to be winning.
Fox News must now officially remove the "News" from their title and declare themselves for what they are... the PR wing of the Republican Party.
As opinion based upon facts. Unlike Fox.
Most folks who watch other networks understand that they are opinion networks, you, apparently, do not. I'll ask again, do you get PAID for your loyalty? If not, then it's a bit creepy.
FOX 'News', however, is hopelessly devoted to whatever the Republican Party wants. At the moment, that seems to be control of the country back from a lawfully elected and duly sworn administration. Guess they'll just have to figure out a way to steal it, like they did in 2000 and 2004. Too bad boy George is no longer available. Hey, maybe they can get Jeb!
The Australian is creating unrest in America for fun and profit.
In my city, you cannot find left leaning folks on radio unless it's satellite and even then most are right wing talkers.
Break up the large media conglomerates
On a more serious note, when the FCC license renewals come up for Faux Noise stations around the US, this sort of behavior should be brought up.
These are the public airwaves. And they are being misused...
Okay.... so... the war on terrorism is over then?
According to these pieces of trash we were supposed to be supportive and fully backing our president during these tough days while we are at war for our very lives against terrorism?
I said this not all that long ago... but I never thought it would be possible for me to truly hate a person of group of people... but the circus over at Fox and all the right-wing brainless thugs that follow them... I do hate!
I find it quite possible from reading your posts, there is never any objectivity at all in anything you say. It is mostly just insults, but that seems to be the preferred method here. Except if a conservative does it, then it is wrong and shameful.
Except if a conservative does it, then it is wrong and shameful.
DING!!! DING!!! DING!!! and another right wiger rings the victim bell.
captfoster and other anonymous blog commenters should be held to the exact same standards of objectivity and civility as the hosts of major conservative cable news television shows.
Fauliberal is a troll... nothing more, and nothing less.
I seem to remember a competition in November, 2008. Our guy won this time, and he's still polling pretty high on job performance, admirable since he inherited a big mess.
Certainly the conservative media is bolstering their incurious base but are they really winning over independents?
You'll destroy this country just to WIN. Doesn't matter the he's cleaning up YOUR MESS, doesn't matter that you had eight years and just screwed evrythig up, doens't matter that you trashed the budget, the economy, the constitution and our good standing in the world...
All that matters is thaat YOU win... To HELL with America.
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"O'REILLY: Well, what do you mean -- look, fair doesn't really cut it. It's effective."
That is all you need to know about conservatives.
Fair & truthfull do not matter.
The name of the game is destroy your opponent.
In the middle of the health care debate, foreign occupations and other serious issues, Van Jones is considered an advisory position.
The right wing tabloid media goes digging, and finds a statement made by Jones describing himself as a communist.
Right wingers still frightened by the word "communist" follow the shiny object, and the media use it to distract from the issues.
Rational people see the result as ; Van Jones can get another job, declines the position in order to avoid the right wing circus sideshow distraction.
Fox Fans see: We won!!We ratted out a commie !!
You'll often see signs or rantings on FNC about Obama's Czars as being communist!
Or calling ANY public service as socialism.
And then comparing a mixed white/black man to Hitler.
Pretty funny stuff it would be, if it were not so dangerous ...
Har ! I can just picture the wingnuts all wedged into the doorway of one car like the Three Stooges, while the non-sheep types effortlessly walk into the other cars.
... and the economy collapsed under Bush
... and Bush authorized TARP and the auto bailout
But this has NOTHING to do with Obama being black and a Democrat ... Riiiiiiight
The Republicans were in power for 8 years and ran this country into the ground and damaged our good name throughout the world.
Now that they're no longer in power they're acting like spoiled children by pitching a fit because they're not getting their way.
If they truly cared about this country they would help by trying to come up with better ideas to help us in theses difficult times. What they have decided to do is to scare little old ladies into thinking that our president wants to kill them off with "death panels".
I was involved in the anti-war protests against Bush. However, polls show that most people were not influenced by the protests. In fact, most people were turned off by them.
Granted, the town halls have made Obama look weak on health care. But he is looking strong again. What will matter come the mid-term elections is the final outcome of health care, the economy and the job market.
What?A Community Oraganizer??
And PROUD of being one???
Well I don't know what else to say except...
Are you F_CKING KIDDING ME?
The idea that other views might, in fact, be reasonable is unacceptable because it weakens their movement (which is based solely on being right, right, right).
This is where the comparison between liberal and conservative "talking heads" becomes relevant. Left leaning networks/publications (specifically MSNBC) are just as guilty as FOX for choosing a side and defending it to the death. They do the same thing.. but much differently. As a liberal, I can't stand watching MSNBC most of the time, because it seems like their only job is to refute the garbage fabricated on FOX. Hosts whine all day about how bad FOX is and how their hosts/guests lie all the time. It makes them look weak.
However, the distinction between the two lies in reality. While MSNBC might be pandering to the Democrats all day, they do (for the most part) base their opinions on facts, not distortions, exaggerations, or lies. This is why you always see the conservative debater getting angrier than hell, yelling, and using completely irrelevant "ammo" they cooked up before hand. It is hard to legitimately win a debate when the facts don't back you up.
Their current rhetoric is only loosely tied to classic conservative ideals. FOX's people yell "small government!" (even though they didn't mind that Bush was more invasive into American citizens' privacy than any other president.. ever, and that he threw out virtually all checks & balances and proclaimed himself "The Decider"), and "Christian values/morals!" (which, of course, can't/shouldn't ever be forced on anybody in a country that is not supposed to be dictated by religion). Liberals complain about it, while they are sitting there letting it happen. How good it would feel if the Democrats actually did something? (I understand that it is difficult when every single republican congressman/representative rejects any and all things "liberal") The Democrats, in my eyes, are WEAK and will bend over backwards to keep the Repubs happy... Just like how the Repubs treated the Dems during Bush's time... oh wait...
Policy debate is dead.. Appearance is all that matters.
These are small victories.
Obama - closing Guantanamo
Obama - passed stimulus bill- helped in ending the recession
Obama - passed cap and trade
These are real victories and if the president passes health care reform all in under one year to me it seems like a very powerful administration.
I think if our country gets invaded, you might have bigger problems than health care to worry about.
It became obvious to me by the second video release that this was carefully planned, but the third video showed a campaign as strategically conceived as a chess match.
Who funded O'Keefe for two months? Airfare, hotels, per diem expenses in several remote locations costs a lot of money.
Consider the strategy to release the tapes slowly to draw in ACORN officers and other news organizations who were initially critical of the veracity of the story. O'Keefe and Giles refusing to speak to other media or answer questions about any ACORN offices who avoided getting punked. Handing the story to the only news organization who would be complicit in following a gameplan more closely resembling a marketing strategy for a major product rollout. It was a safe bet that FOX would not vette anyone or act to confirm any aspect of the story, thus guaranteeing a populist and media maelstrom that would taint everyone in the mainstream and inflict the most damage to whatever or whom ever this story touched.
This was a right wing marketing coup that was more than happenstance. These were brilliant tactical maneuvers as means to an end...to destroy ACORN and anyone linked to them. The conservative machine has scored a major win and upped the stakes for us all. There will be more.
Now with Obama as President They(Foxnews) think its their job to do what ever they can to "BRING HIM DOWN". Well sorry, he is the President of the United States of America and right now he has just followed the worst President on record, he beat Hoover, who headed up the Presidence during the Great Stock Market Crash and the start of the Depression (Also a Repulican). After Hoover a Democrat named Franklin D. Roosevelt, who with his New Deal, Works programs, Social Security and many other programs got this country going again.
Now maybe some people don't like that, well. The truth of the matter is this. Health care is out of control and has been since Richard Nixon gave HMO's the control that he did in the 70's. Health care should not be for profit period, sorry. There should not be CEO's and Share holders, nope. People should not have to choose between their meds and food, paying their bills, house payments, etc. I make that choice every month. I was an SICU RN who was almost killed in a Car Accident by a young man talking on a cell phone who ran a red light. Doctors are hog tied by paperwork now because of Insurance companies, nurses also, and patient care which should be better is not due to all the buraocracy.
The only way to get all of this in check is to get the insurance companies in check, the hospitals in check, the drug companies in check, the doctors in check who are not practicing medicine up to their best ability(Ohhhh yeah), and the nurses in check so that they can work to help make the system run smooth(Nurse are your hero's trust me). We have to work together on this, we get this health care system working so that we can pervent things before they get toooooo big and we will be saving billions and billions, trust me. Prevention is the key here. So stop fighting like babies about who was the worst president, who gives a crap, everyone has flaws. Stand up for each other.
Go and read the Beatitudes, take care of the sick, take care of the poor, be a peace maker, and do something good for someone else. Because its not our money, its Gods money. Until we quit acting like it is, God will not bless us. You see when we took care of our own, God took care of us. Think about it. Now we fight and refuse to take care of our own, and our country is falling apart.
I originally thought the headline said:
O'Reilly: "The conservative media is whining now. They're whining."
I thought, "My god! Bill's actually admitting it?" ;-)