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Beck runs with irrelevant Treasury memos to accuse Obama of cap-and-trade "cover-up," "outright lies"

September 17, 2009 6:19 pm ET

From the September 17 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

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Conservative media advance CEI effort to attack cap-and-trade with irrelevant Treasury memos

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    • Author by LittleFuzzy (September 17, 2009 6:22 pm ET)
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      Maybe he should look into the amphetamine mentioned in the chryon (?). He looks like he's advertising the "before" state.
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    • Author by bintx (September 17, 2009 6:29 pm ET)
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      Apparently, Beck admits to having adult ADHD. I'd look into either taking my meds more religiously or changing my meds, if I were Beck. Look at the look on his face in that video. The man is manic.
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    • Author by s.cheatum (September 17, 2009 6:58 pm ET)
         
      he even says $1761 per year per household

      1761/365 = $4.82 a day

      which I guess is still more than $.40... but eh
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    • Author by kan_ya (September 17, 2009 7:28 pm ET)
         
      I don't watch a lot of Glenn Beck... so please help me here! What's up with the way he talks? sounds like he's talking to a pre-K group of kids... Who does this appeal to? just wondering...
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    • Author by SLRTX (September 17, 2009 7:53 pm ET)
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      I was watching Judge Judy the other day (being unemployed gives you a lot of time to learn about small-claims court).

      She caught the defendant in 1 lie. She then announced that she could no longer believe anything they told her.

      So, simple. Too bad the ignorant and stupid can't apply this rule to Beck.

      How many lies will it take before people we can no longer believe anything he says.

      Here are links to the truth.

      http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/cap-and-trade-cost-inflation/

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/16/AR2009091603524.html

      From the GOP's own web site. Even they aren't entirely in agreement with the inflated cost estimate.

      http://www.gop.gov/wtas/09/05/01/drudge-report-highlights-cap-and
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    • Author by terrapin53 (September 17, 2009 7:57 pm ET)
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      Beck's memo is dated March 9. Cap and Trade bill went to print around June 22, and probably voted on some time in July perhaps.
      His memo has no relevance, but once gain why let facts in the the way of another smear attempt on Obama.
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (September 17, 2009 11:05 pm ET)
         
      Are the right really arguing over pollution controls! REALLY! Well GWB ignored the EPA for 8 years, and now when a president cares about a clean enviroment the right are going nuts. Fueled by corporations, which in turn the RIGHT on the Supreme Court is trying to overrule a law that will benefit the Republicans! The RIGHT are really retards!

      Here is what cap and trade really means: Emissions trading (or emission trading) is an administrative approach used to control pollution by providing economic incentives for achieving reductions in the emissions of pollutants. It is sometimes called cap and trade.

      And he holds up a mail stamp! WOW!
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    • Author by MagCynic (September 18, 2009 2:20 am ET)
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      Does Congress matter anymore? Does anyone believe that Congress' estimates of anything are accurate? You can call Beck a liar all you want, but to call him a liar and think Congress isn't is hilarious.

      What do you all think of his latest push: the 56 Refounders.
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      • Author by bintx (September 18, 2009 9:21 am ET)
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        Beck is a liar and he's crazy. What he is suggesting with the 56 refounders is insurrection and could be seen as promoting treason. He's suggesting overthrowing our government and our Constitution.

        I'd suggest that you do a bit of reading on the guy that Beck stole all of his big ideas from . . . he was also a documented liar and he was also crazy. W. Cleon Skousen was his name. Beck prepared the foreword in a reprint of Skousen's book, 5000 Year Leap.

        http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/16/beck_skousen/
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        • Author by MagCynic (September 18, 2009 11:38 am ET)
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          "What he is suggesting with the 56 refounders is insurrection and could be seen as promoting treason."

          Are you kidding? Refounding is simply going back to how this country was founded. President Obama wants to "fundamentally transform" this nation into something matching his vision. Obama feels it is his duty to correct what he thinks are fundamental flaws in the Constitution. There is someone promoting treasons, but it's not Beck.

          I've read The 5000 Year Leap. It is heavily laced with religious significance. I don't remember it endorsing Mormonism though. Can you disprove anything that is sourced in that book?
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          • Author by noneyabidnis (September 18, 2009 3:38 pm ET)
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            He's sowing the seeds for a 2010 con con that would be able to make whatever amendment to the Constitution they wanted.

            If you don't think that's a dangerous prospect, then perhaps you should read what one of the Founding Fathers said about it:

            If a General Convention were to take place for the avowed and sole purpose of revising the Constitution, it would naturally consider itself as having a greater latitude than the Congress.... It would consequently give greater agitation to the public mind; an election into it would be courted by the most violent partisans on both sides ... [and] would no doubt contain individuals of insidious views, who, under the mask of seeking alterations popular in some parts ... might have the dangerous opportunity of sapping the very foundations of the fabric.... Having witnessed the difficulties and dangers experienced by the first Convention, which assembled under every propitious circumstance, I should tremble for the result of a second, meeting in the present temper in America.

            [From a letter by James Madison to G.L. Turberville, November 2, 1788.]

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            • Author by noneyabidnis (September 18, 2009 3:44 pm ET)
                 
              Y'all are also going to think I've lost my mind, but last night while watching Beck, he flashed through pictures of all the Founding Fathers. I swear that James Madison was shown twice. I'd love to see a video recording and confirm. Would be a little interesting if he did - especially given what Madison said about the dangers.
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              • Author by noneyabidnis (September 18, 2009 3:47 pm ET)
                   
                I mean, he obviously sees a lot of meaning in symbology. I swear Madison was in the pictures twice.
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              • Author by bintx (September 18, 2009 4:14 pm ET)
                   
                Madison also warned of the dangers of "factions" or what we call "political parties." Until we control the disease of loyalty to factions taking precedence over loyalty to our country, our country is in peril.

                http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa10.htm
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                • Author by noneyabidnis (September 18, 2009 4:18 pm ET)
                     
                  Nevermind. It's John Blair that's shown twice. Why? Looks like for no other reason than poor editing.

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWTD0bSIiAg

                  Start at around 2:33
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          • Author by bintx (September 18, 2009 3:42 pm ET)
               
            I see you are a loyal Beck follower so nothing I say will make any difference whatsoever. BTW, you are aware that the quote that Beck used to show that Obama wants to "fundamentally transform" this nation was heavily truncated and edited to make it say what Beck wanted it to say and YOU bought it.

            There are many things wrong with 5000 Year Leap . . . so many things that the Mormon church tried to distance itself from Skousen, just like the FBI did and every other entity which ever had anything to do with the lunatic. He was stark-raving mad and when something in the nation's history didn't fit his own particular version of what it SHOULD have been, he just made it up. He was a documented liar.

            There's nothing wrong with this country as it is. And yes, someone like Beck could quite easily be seen as promoting treason.

            Be sure keep that little tinfoil hat perched firmly atop your pointy little head. You're going to need it.
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