Highlighting the "power" of "Fox News," "conservative talk radio," which drove ACORN, Van Jones stories, O'Reilly claimed "now there is a pressure on the right wing to kinda put Obama away"
September 17, 2009 9:06 pm ET
From the September 17th edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:
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"Put Obama away". He actually said it.
At least he pointed out the 75,000 number. But thats hardly redemption for saying "put Obama away".
thats only one step from "blow Obama away".
The word "kinda" is very important there too. Would the phrase work as "kinda blow Obama away"? No, not really. It clearly implies a "so-to-speak" meaning, not subject to a strict interpretation. I laughed out loud at "one step from", also. By the same logic, if you told someone to put something away, they could throw it away and then say "it's just one step away, so that's clearly what you were suggesting". You can't substitute words and attribute the new meaning to the speaker.
"Give a mouse a cookie and"...... what? What's that?
Oh yes... "then he'll want a glass of milk!"
This caving in to the demands of a group of known liars and propagandists which represents less than 5% of the population is hard to watch.
While at no time would I dare tell any of the trolls that come in here saying that Obama and the Dems are weak that they have been right in calling them weak...
UGH... I want to perish the thought but find myself mortified by the reality:
That the Democratic leadership truly IS this weak and that this is no joke! As a result, I fear for this country that these right-wing corporate whores really will be the end of it.
They can smell it.
If they can just incite the violence a little more...The American filth media in full ejaculation.
A recent example would be the Kanye West & Taylor Swift foolishness.
Pete...you had yours...now go away.
Did you actually watch the clip, or are you just reading the headline?
Pelosi took a lot of guff this morning off of Joe Scarbrough and his motley crew, but she was spot on. This isn't about criticism of policy, it's about out and out hatred of a man being ginned up by people like O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh and that uber-jackass, Beck.
Every day their attacks become more personal. This has nothing to do with "loyal opposition". This is creeping towards a corporate sponsored coup.
A first-year law student would beat the hell out of that charge. It's not even comparable to Tiller.
Personally, I don't think that O'Reilly's heart is into the trashing Obama thing that Fox promotes. He actually liked and respected Obama after his pre-election interview.
I'm not seeing anyone address the actual nature of his comments here. Why is that?
How specifically might the right and Fox News "put Obama away"?
Here's another one for you:"Blood in the water". How the hell does that apply to anything physical? Is he walking with a limp and the Secret Service is taking the week off, or what? The phrase means someone is vulnerable and open to attack, but there's nothing regarding his physical safety that's changed.
What does the prosecution say to that?
Since the context completely defies any interpretation of "kinda put Obama away" as being violent, and since he's talking about what other people want to do, then there's no case to be made for holding him accountable for that. You would have to show how one can reasonably be expected to interpret it as a call to violence. In the Tiller case, you had language like "he has to be stopped". There's something to be said about that. This is absolutely not the same thing.
Your turn. If you're talking about assassination (as evidenced by your earlier post), and what FOX has to do, then who is doing this assassination?
I don't think news networks have the right to exist and operate with the sole purpose of directing opposition (which may or may not result in assassination attempts by viewers) at democratically elected individuals.
Now answer the questions.
And again, there's no argument being made as to what pattern we're talking about, since O'Reilly is expressing concern here and saying that things have to be legitimate. How the hell is that actionable in any way, shape or form?
So this is actionable because he really wants Obama "kinda put away", but he's expressing worry over it, and it seems like since he's talking about Van Jones and ACORN that he's talking about political matters. If Obama were to be assassinated, it could be shown that O'Reilly wasn't genuinely concerned, wasn't really talking about anything political, and was just pretending all of that because he knew that the phrase "kinda put Obama away" would trigger violence regardless of the context he himself set up.
Do I have that right?
The argument there would be that he's being hypocritical. That doesn't show that he's inciting physical violence here.
The answer to your two questions is "yes", with the question about your word usage attached. Now, does he also make it clear that he's concerned about legitimate behavior? Yes, he does. So what is he advocating, exactly?
What, exactly, is the scenario you are talking about? Who is doing physical harm? I don't know why this is so difficult for you to spit out. If FOX is pressured to provoke violence (even though the context shows that's not what this is about), then isn't O'Reilly separating himself from that by expressing concerns about illegitimate means? How would his statement here be actionable?
Can I please get some straight answers out of you, just for a change of pace?
The answer to your two questions is "yes", with the question about your word usage attached. Now, does he also make it clear that he's concerned about legitimate behavior? Yes, he does. So what is he advocating, exactly?
What, exactly, is the scenario you are talking about? Who is doing physical harm? I don't know why this is so difficult for you to spit out. If FOX is pressured to provoke violence (even though the context shows that's not what this is about), then isn't O'Reilly separating himself from that by expressing concerns about illegitimate means? How would his statement here be actionable?
Can I please get some straight answers out of you, just for a change of pace?
I think it's time for the Justice Department to step in. I don't see why Ted Baxter shouldn't be deported, or flushed.
I don't see why we can't have a GITMO for conservative talk radio and Fox News.
lets face it, there are a lot of liberals out there who feel the pressure to take out Ted Baxter and Glenn Beck.
I mean, with ratings for heavens sake!
But Ted Baxter accidentally had a point tonight. Even though the deck is stacked against us, sometimes the blowback can be pretty intense even from the "undermanned, underdogs."
The Fever Swamp may indeed overplay their hand (i.e. lie too much).
He might be smart enough to know that.
you would think after the first 20 times, they would learn.
Baucus calling himself a Democrat? Not so much.
by the way, the look at tammy's face as oreilly was asking the last question of this clip was priceless. it looked like she was totally searching for answers to try and rationalize what the far-right has to do to continue and attack obama.