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On Fox, Breitbart bashes CNN's ACORN coverage: "The behavior of Jonathan Klein, the president of CNN, has been despicable during this"

September 18, 2009 11:11 am ET

From the September 18 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom:

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MEGYN KELLY (co-host): Joining me now is Andrew Breitbart. He's the founder of the website the video first appeared on. It's called BigGovernment.com, and the videos are still there. Andrew, good morning to you.

BREITBART: Good morning, Megyn.

KELLY: You were with us the morning that the story broke -- the morning that the first video aired on BigGovernment.com. And now in a week's time, the congressional action, the response by the Feds, has been really stunning. I mean, for years, the Democrats in Congress have not wanted to sign on to anything that would cut back funding from ACORN, and now we see these huge majorities coming out of the Senate and the House to cut down the group -- to cut off the group's funding. What's your reaction, a week into this?

BREITBART: Well, I'm grateful that the American public has realized that there's a serious problem here, and that their elected representatives are taking their concerns seriously. A new Rasmussen poll came out this morning that says America's overwhelmingly disturbed by what they've seen on these videos.

But, predictably, and why we rolled the videos out one by one by one by one, we set traps for ACORN to lie; each and every time they lied. They went to the mainstream media, continued to tell those lies. The next day, the previous day's lies were exposed. And CNN in particular has kept going back to ACORN and taking their line.

The behavior of Jonathan Klein, the president of CNN, has been despicable during this. They continue to impugn [filmmakers] James [O'Keefe] and Hannah [Giles], and they are continuing to tell falsehoods -- that they were kicked out of ACORN offices. And that's the current line that some at ACORN, including Bertha Lewis, continue to push. There are more videos to come, and some -- and in towns that they continue to say that they were kicked out of.

KELLY: It's not -- I mean, Bertha Lewis is the person behind that charge. She's the CEO of ACORN -- they call her the chief organizer -- but, essentially, that's the CEO. And she's been all over the map on responding to this, Andrew. First she came out and said, you know, this is defamatory. They threatened lawsuits against James and Hannah, against you, against Fox -- for anybody who would touch the story is going to get sued for touching the story. Then they came out and said, oh, they tried this stunt at a bunch of offices and failed. Then tape after tape we kept seeing that, well, actually, they tried it at a bunch of offices and succeeded at a bunch of offices as well. Are there more tapes to come?

BREITBART: Oh, absolutely. And I've -- they -- CNN in particular, I have spoken to their producers, who have been impugning the motivations of Hannah and James and trying to find aspects of their story that are false, when ACORN has been false. I have said to them James and Hannah will appear on your network, even for a hit job, if you show the American people -- or the small segment of their audience that still goes to that network -- if you show them those tapes and let them decide, just like Congress did, just like Al Franken did -- he voted against it.

He -- very early on, before the mainstream media started to pick up on it, what did Al Franken know about this that CNN didn't know about this? On these videos you see truth.

KELLY: Well, you know, it hasn't -- in CNN's defense, at least they've covered it. It hasn't been covered by virtually any media -- in particular, the big three. I mean, I was stunned this week --

BREITBART: Well, I will credit --

KELLY: -- when Charlie Gibson said he didn't even know about the story.

BREITBART: Yeah, I will credit Katie Couric and the CBS Evening News; on Tuesday evening they did it. And more importantly, it's already cycled through the Jon Stewart Daily Show and Jay Leno's Tonight Show. So when they're making jokes at the expense of ACORN, and ABC and NBC have refused to cover it, there is something desperately wrong with the mainstream media. And that's why we did the rollout the way that we did, because we wanted to not just expose ACORN for being corrupt, we wanted to expose that the mainstream media would treat this exactly like they treated the Van Jones story. And that's ignored until the consequences got too great for them to ignore.

Previously:

Police report filed by ACORN exposes false claims by individuals behind videos

Network news largely silent on Fox News' role in hyping, distorting ACORN story

Fox News runs with San Bernardino ACORN video without needed fact check

Beck relies heavily on Drudge protégé Andrew Breitbart in recent attacks on NEA, Jones, and ACORN

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    • Author by Boxer1979 (September 18, 2009 11:36 am ET)
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      Go on CNN then if its bothering you that bad! Then again HE won't!
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    • Author by DellDolly (September 18, 2009 11:36 am ET)
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      Breitbart's behavior, along with FoxNews's actions here and the actions of the videographers, should be called into question. They don't want that scrutiny. Motivation is relevant.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (September 18, 2009 11:52 am ET)
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        They don't want that scrutiny.

        You got THAT right!

        I have a feeling that by the time this is over, there's going to be some serious backlash against the RIGHT over some aspect of these films or the filmakers. There's more to this story than what's been revealed so far. These guys aren't just concerned citizens. I don't buy that for a minute.
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        • Author by R U kidding me (September 18, 2009 12:18 pm ET)
             
          LOL!!! OMG! They are BEGGING for the "scrutiny". Havent you been listening?

          So you would rather put down someone that found people acting either illegally or fraudulently just because it shows up on Fox News? Are you kidding me? Do you have ANY values?

          Oh and pleased do keep on the scrutiny issue - that they dont want the scrutiny...... It will just raise the ratings even higher. As Jon Stewart said: "I'm a fake journalist, and I'm embarrassed these guys scooped me. Let's get to work people."

          Lets see how your backlash pans out for you... *chuckle*
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        • Author by gumbonazi (September 18, 2009 12:51 pm ET)
             
          I have a feeling that by the time this is over, there's going to be some serious backlash against the RIGHT over some aspect of these films or the filmakers.

          You think so?
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        • Author by TXStrat (September 18, 2009 2:16 pm ET)
             
          I think that it is ACORN that is more interested in avoiding any further scrutiny. These first glimpses into the inner workings of 5 ACORN offices, all from different areas undeniably show a trend in willingness to both assist in defrauding the government and assistance in actually breaking the law.

          This flies in the face of the core values ACORN claims to be based on. How can you help low and middle income people by teaching them to cheat on their taxes? Get ahead by getting over?

          With the stories of Charlie Rangel and Tim Geithner in the news recently, maybe that is just the liberal way?
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        • Author by Quanuck (September 18, 2009 2:36 pm ET)
             
          Riiiight... so all the reccommendations to hide crimes and money from the government on the part of each and every ACORN representative in the videos was just nothing... lmao... and even the dems are in awe at the dispicable acts of these scum.
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        • Author by Dmacalypse (September 18, 2009 3:36 pm ET)
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          Preach!
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        • Author by historygeek001 (September 18, 2009 3:46 pm ET)
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          Eddie:

          I think you're more optimistic than I am. I don't think there will be anything more than a minor backlash because I think that the people we're hearing from are wingnuts, many of whom (not all, but many) are bigoted knuckledraggers that will never forgive Obama for being President. That particular segment of the Republican party has become their base and they will continue to do anything they can to get in the news and try to prevent Obama's voice from being heard. They are beyond all logic and reason, deliberately ignore facts in favor of talking points, and are so habitually dishonest that I think they no longer know when they are lying and when they're telling the truth. It's impossible to have a conversation with anybody who thinks that Breitbert (or Hannity, or Beck, or Coulter, or O'Reilly, etc.) makes sense because they have already decided to ignore reality. They're deliberately catering to the lowest of the low.
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      • Author by Berry (September 18, 2009 1:51 pm ET)
           
        Actually Brietbart does want scrutiny. In fact he has said multiple times he hopes ACORN comes after him with a lawsuit. In lawsuits there's this thing called discovery where each side must give all any and all documents asked for by each side. That would be a great showdown to watch!
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    • Author by PurpleState (September 18, 2009 11:47 am ET)
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      Andrew who?
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (September 18, 2009 4:05 pm ET)
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        Isn't he the guy that runs a third-rate Hollywood gossip web site?
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (September 18, 2009 11:50 am ET)
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      This goes back to the same Conservative mental illness of focusing entirely on making sure that no one abuses a given system and completely ignoring any and all good that the system does. And when someone (and someone always does!) does abuse the system, the Republican's use that at an excuse to scrap the whole thing!

      Come on, what does more harm?

      A handful of employees breaking the law (really enabling others to break the law) and SOME tax money being spent in what they feel is an "inefficent" manner...

      -OR-

      The number of of law abiding people that will now never be home owners. That will not be registered to vote. That will not benefit from all the various community improvements organized and funded by Acorn?

      For every corrupt Acorn employee that these foxes root out, how many people in comminites accross the country will be harmed? Hundereds?

      If it's more that ONE (for each) then BY DEFINITION they've done more harm than good. (Of course they also see electing Democrats as 'doing harm' and elecing Republicans as 'doing good.')

      But to conservtaives, collateral damage (done by THEM) doesn't matter at all...

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      ...if it helps them WIN.
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      • Author by dangergirl (September 18, 2009 12:16 pm ET)
           
        Well Eddie. It would appear that DEMOCRATS in both the Senate and the House seem to agree with Republicans when it comes to ACORN. Dems couldn't distance themselves fast enough from an organization they KNEW was corrupt. YOU think its only a case of a 'few" bad apples.

        ROFLMAO. Wow either you work for ACORN or you're clueless. Even before these tapes came out ACORN had a dozen indictments against them for fraud stemming from the General Election.

        And it doesn't stop there - two prominent HOLLYWOOD democrats shot a documentary on the hundreds of fraudulent practices that both ACORN and high ranking members of the DNC engaged in during the PRIMARIES.

        Enlighten yourself with the truth, Eddie Check out www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com .

        ACORN has done far more harm than good and taxpayers should NOT have to provided them with funds to them for doing so.

        And the other point to remember - It is Barack Obama who USED ACORN to work on HIS behalf during the primaries...and offered them something in return for doing so. Obama is directly connected to ACORN --- which is why he has NOW chosen to throw them under the bus along with Van Jones, and a long list of people/organizations that have embarrassed him. He uses them - then loses them once they prove to "dirty" to be associated with.

        ACORN have ONLY themselves to blame for their demise . If they thought Obama would stand by them...no matter what horrendous acts they engaged in.. even acts he encouraged... they were wrong.
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      • Author by R U kidding me (September 18, 2009 12:20 pm ET)
           
        "This goes back to the same Conservative mental illness of focusing entirely on making sure that no one abuses a given system and completely ignoring any and all good that the system does. And when someone (and someone always does!) does abuse the system, the Republican's use that at an excuse to scrap the whole thing!"

        What WHOLE thing? Just get the people or organization that is not acting legally. But like typical liberals... if it is liberal it MUST be good and keep it running no matter if 13 year old illegal immigrants are being promoted as prostitutes.
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      • Author by cad45 (September 18, 2009 1:01 pm ET)
           
        Great points, Niceguy.
        So if a few CEOs receive compensation disproportionate to their accomplishments and responsibilities, should we set limits for ALL CEO compensation?
        If a corporation makes (in your opinion) too much money, even though they employee hundreds of employees and stimulate economies, should their profits be controlled?

        For every tax increase imposed on evil big business, how many people across the country will be harmed through job losses?
        I think your point is correct. Take the bad with the good on BOTH SIDES!!!

        However the Liberal "mental illness" can only focus one narrow-minded view. Do you approve of tax breaks and incentives to big corporations to provide incentive to grow, expand AND HIRE MORE PEOPLE?

        Or should YOUR VERSION of the government just control everything?
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      • Author by rasqual (September 18, 2009 1:16 pm ET)
           
        A bit of a false dichotomy. How about firing people who abuse things, and seeing to it that heads roll who are responsible so that organizations like ACORN will be more accountable?

        Hmm. That's kind of what's happening. On account of a couple audacious kids.

        Hmm. That wouldn't have happened, if not for a couple audacious kids.

        I know, I know! Let's go after the kids! :-\
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      • Author by windjammin (September 18, 2009 1:17 pm ET)
           
        based on your logic, that since Madoff helped himself, his wife and employed people, and paid taxes during his scam, those redeeming qualities are enough to keep him out of jail. interesting twist. your philosophy of relativism can't help any (logical) argument.
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      • Author by Conchobhar (September 18, 2009 1:31 pm ET)
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        Suppressing voter turnout is the only way that Republicans can win, given their policies and demographic trends. Therefore, they have to destroy ACORN, and will go after any organization that seeks to extend the franchise.
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      • Author by pintobean (September 18, 2009 2:48 pm ET)
           
        I can't believe the responses on this. It is as though ACORN has a bunch of hit men out there trying to sway the opinions of the public.... No they would never do that, right? Any way the logic used by Niceguy Eddie doesn't make any sense. These are not allegations of J-walking, these people, on numerous occasions and in a similar manner, all over the country, were aiding and abetting in the establishment of an underage sex slave ring. NGE trots out the old "more good than bad" argument which makes no sense. If I commit murder but on the other hand I feed hungry homeless people on the weekends do I get a pass in your book Eddie?

        And earlier DellDolly sums up the whole liberal experience by using rapier wit against someone who feels differently than he/ she with a well though out and shockingly well played "shut up". Unfortunately this is the sum total of the argument against all who disagree with ACORN or anyone like them. Well I, for one will not shut up and for that matter I will not tell anyone else to shut up. If I cannot craft an argument that is both well spoken and concise then I will go back to school and learn how, I suggest DellDolly do the same.
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      • Author by rumpleteasermom (September 18, 2009 6:26 pm ET)
           
        And when someone (and someone always does!) does abuse the system, the Republican's use that at an excuse to scrap the whole thing!

        Wait, by that logic doesn't that mean we can now get rid of the entire Republican party? Ensign, Sanford, Craig and there were others, definitely did bad things as Republicans. Right?

        Oh, and if you make the criteria that they had to do bad things officially, Scooter Libby, the whole Iran-Contra thing - that oughta be enough to do away with the wole party using their own standards as set forth in the ACORN thing.
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      • Author by sbtx55 (September 18, 2009 7:55 pm ET)
           
        Acorn's voter registration efforts throughout the country are vital to our democracy. Registering to vote is a very complex and intricate process. Poor colored people do not have the intellectual capacity to carry out this very difficult task. Without Acorn, how will their pitiful
        voices be heard?

        OH, The HUGE MANATEE!!!
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      • Author by kristy (September 19, 2009 3:02 pm ET)
           
        This is not about a handful of employees breaking the law. It is about a corrupt orginization all the way to the top. Do you believe embezzlement and coverup of almost 1 million dollars is something we the taxpayer should be made aware of? Wade Rathke stole this money back in 2000 and when it was uncovered by some ACORN workers and questioned they were quickly fired. These members are known as the ACORN 8 and they have been requesting congressional investigations for almost 2 years now. Does that make them right wing crazies?

        http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/09/us/09embezzle.html

        ACORN is supposed to be the voice for the poor and works to increase the living wage, but time after time they have used union busting techniques on their own employees. They fight for increases in minimum wage, yet don't want to pay their own employees minimum wage.

        http://personalmoneystore.com/moneyblog/2009/03/06/acorn-report-5/

        http://www.rottenacorn.com/downloads/060728_badSeed.pdf

        This orginization uses the poor as their shield to accumlate money and power. They need to be exposed for who they are. If you can't see beyond that because of your love for one party over another, then there is no hope for this country. Corruption will continue. I believe corruption on both sides needs to be exposed and we need to stop being pawns in this game.

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    • Author by smarshall1432997 (September 18, 2009 11:58 am ET)
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      Bottom line, ACORN lost it's funding that was voted on by the majority of Members of Congress "all" thanks to FoxNews Channel, Republicans and Andrew Breitbart. This shows that FoxNews Channel got alot of "power" and can "crush" those who the cable network chooses to opposed as enemies, i.e. ACORN and Van Jones.

      Just amazing when you think of how FoxNews Channel kept their "power" even with a majority of Democrats in both Houses and as President. Wow, no wonder why Republicans "LOVE" FoxNews Channel. LOL
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      • Author by R U kidding me (September 18, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
           
        HAHAHAHAHA

        The part you miss... more than just Republicans watch Fox. Why? Because the present news that others just ignore.

        As Jon Stewart said: "I'm a fake journalist, and I'm embarrassed these guys scooped me. Let's get to work people."

        THATS why people are watching Fox. But your head is so wrapped wround the axle that Fox News is BAAAAD. Better wake up!
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      • Author by windjammin (September 18, 2009 1:09 pm ET)
           
        Not true. They lost their funding because they abuse tax $ and help people cheat the very system which funds them. THEIR ACTIONS DID IT, not the actions of someone who observed it.

        All the posts on this site focus on the people reporting the information, not the people or the organizations that performed the acts. Typical.
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      • Author by angelwannabe008 (September 18, 2009 1:51 pm ET)
           
        Very well said! What is with these people going after the messengers? Thank God there are good people in this country willing to expose the TRUTH! Long live FOX news and BigGovernment.com!
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      • Author by No Fool (September 18, 2009 1:53 pm ET)
           
        Bottom line, ACORN lost it's funding that was voted on by the majority of Members of Congress "all" thanks to FoxNews Channel, Republicans and Andrew Breitbart.

        Oh, ACORN has no accountability in these incidents that have led to their own demise? Poor ACORN was a victim of evil Fox?? If ever there was an irresponsible and unethical organization run amuck, it's ACORN. Thankfully, as the Koolaid begins to wear off, we'll see these thugs and crooks for what they really are, and we'll see that interloper currently infesting the White House for who he really is: someone unworthy of the presidency.
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      • Author by Conchobhar (September 18, 2009 4:38 pm ET)
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        Right. It's all about power, the country be damned.
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    • Author by michaelr (September 18, 2009 12:09 pm ET)
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      It is so clear to me that Breitbart owns the rights to these videos and wants them played on all the networks, not because he cares what's in them but because he wants to get paid.

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      • Author by smarshall1432997 (September 18, 2009 12:18 pm ET)
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        And you know FoxNews Channel paid a "huge" amount of money to "get" ACORN once and for all. Just so sad of what FoxNews Channel did to this Organization that helped poor Americans across the country. Wonder how long it will take for one of those Republican, Conservative, Right-winged Christian Groups to scoop up ACORN's programs? Wink, wink. Just saying. LOL Hmmm.
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      • Author by R U kidding me (September 18, 2009 12:23 pm ET)
           
        SO?
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      • Author by TheAncients (September 18, 2009 12:23 pm ET)
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        The networks would just declare fair use. They won't pay and he won't expect them to.
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    • Author by Sharpe3884 (September 18, 2009 12:09 pm ET)
         
      Making jokes about ACORN? This entire story is A JOKE. This whole story is disgusting - it makes me sick!! FOX went above and beyond anything they could possibly do to bring this organization down somehow. Beck gave a call to arms for someone to smear this organization. Why target a community service organization trying to help the low income communities? What about Goldman Sachs or Merrill Lynch? When FOX designs and orchestrates the story, it isn't really news - it seems fabricated and malicious despite what they found and that is why no other outlet wants to cover this smear campaign. Everyone knows FOX has been bashing ACORN since they found out about it just like they did with van jones. You can't invent the stories before hand, smear and bash them enough to bring them down and then, expect people or real news outlets to take it as serious news. 2 bad apples in a huge organization and all of a sudden their government funding is dropped. How many bad apples are there at Bank of America?? hOW much bailout TARP money payed for bonuses? I hated FOX before but now, I despise them. By playing up the "poor fox card" quite frequently , They are sure painting nice big bulls eyes on their heads. A disgrace to their own slogan - fair and balanced NEVER, EVER has a place on fox news.
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    • Author by mk3872 (September 18, 2009 12:11 pm ET)
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      Whenever Fox News gets into these jouvenile shoving matches with CNN, ABC & NBC, they just expose themselves as existing for nothing more than the right to say that they HATE media & politicians that don't drink their right-wing Kool-Aid.
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      • Author by ChrisS (September 18, 2009 12:28 pm ET)
           
        I cannot believe that everyone here would defend what is on those tapes. Please go look at them and then come back and say that what those employees did was defensible in any way.

        This isn't about left or right it is about corruption that must be addressed. Not doing so and blaming Fox or Republicans is absurd. Really think about what you are saying. Look at NBC ABC and CBS. Look closely at what they chose NOT to cover. Then, ask yourself if this was a republican organization what would you want them to cover? Ask yourself if the media is doing its job correctly. Ask if they are hiding this then what else could they be hiding?

        De-Nial ain't just a river in Egypt as the saying goes.
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    • Author by New Frontier (September 18, 2009 12:30 pm ET)
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      I'm relieved: we've balanced the budget, solved our problems with health care, North Korea, and the economy, completed the Katrina recovery, and ended wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now we can focus all our resources on ACORN.
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      • Author by phredicles (September 18, 2009 12:32 pm ET)
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        Good point - wasn't it just the other day that we were supposed to leave Joe Wilson alone because of all the More Important things?
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    • Author by The_Cat (September 18, 2009 12:34 pm ET)
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      Maybe the problem isn't with the 'main stream media', Mr. Breitbart. Maybe the problem is with the story itself. These two 'journalists' claim that they did not go to an ACORN office where they were turned away. That has been proven false. The video 'evidence' shown has been edited, and the full and complete tapes have not been released. Just this alone would be enough for me to turn them away, since as a responsible program director I would rather not have my company sued for defamation or libel.

      The fact that FOX aired the video without vetting it and without question is one more piece of proof that they are not a news organization at all. FOX 'News'? The title itself is false advertising. FOX Propaganda, however, is exactly right. (Right. Get it? I felt compelled to point this out, due your staggering lack of intellect, Mr. Breitbart.)
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      • Author by TheAncients (September 18, 2009 12:44 pm ET)
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        "The fact that FOX aired the video without vetting it and without question"

        Proof?
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        • Author by The_Cat (September 18, 2009 12:51 pm ET)
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          As I see it, there are two choices, TheAncients. Either FOX saw the whole of all the video, and decided to air the edited version anyway because they are indeed a propaganda network, or they didn't view all the video, and just ran what they were given.

          Likewise the story behind the two who shot this video. Either they checked out the story told, for instance about not going to any ACORN offices where they were turned away, and decided that even though they were lying it was okay to run the clip, or, they didn't check it out because they were too interested in smearing ACORN.

          Remember Dan Rather? His story was factually accurate. George Bush failed to meet his service requirements with TANG, and was therefore a deserter. Now, he had documents later proven to be faked, and he lost his job over that, partly for not making sure his source and the documents were in fact what they purported to be. There have already been enough holes poked in this story to suggest that either FOX Propaganda didn't want to know, or didn't care.
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          • Author by windjammin (September 18, 2009 1:12 pm ET)
               
            another moronic reply. attack the messengers. AMAZING.
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          • Author by Obamanable (September 18, 2009 1:17 pm ET)
               
            You Lefties are hilarious! Your ignorance and childish banter is just the message we love to see! Thank you for being just as irrelevant as we Rightful Conservatives have been professing – your misjudgment is precious!
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          • Author by No Fool (September 18, 2009 2:19 pm ET)
               
            Would it be less of a story if they had visited six offices and were turned away by one, but still acquired the stunning and damning footage from the other five? How about being turned away by ten, but still getting the five examples? Turned away by one hundred and only coming away with the five examples? At what point do you suggest that there is no meaningful gravity to their news reporting and that they just happened to catch a few unsuspecting bad apples?

            How do you call a network who chooses to report a story a propaganda network while other networks selectively keep silent on the story are not branded as propagandists?

            ACORN isn't being smeared, it is being exposed for what it really is. If they are such a positive asset to society who conducts themselves ethically, why can't they submit to an audit that is not done by in-house colluders?
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          • Author by pintobean (September 18, 2009 3:09 pm ET)
               
            Or.. or .. or maybe they watched all of the videos and found that it was all TRUE! People of the world don't believe your "lying eyes" just because you saw it and heard it doesn't make it true. C'mon people give it a rest. ACORN is toast and you know it, why would you defend these guys? I guess everyone has that guy who kidnaped the little girl and kept her prisoner for 18 years wrong as well. Maybe we should investigate her and see if she deserved to be kidnapped. You people are twisted.




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          • Author by cad45 (September 18, 2009 3:55 pm ET)
               
            The "not-too-brights" working in the ACORN offices could have easily shown O'Keefe and Giles the door. The employees were given rope, and they hung themselves. Dan Rather had enough rope to hang himself and he did that quite well, also. It's not the people supplying the rope that you should be angry with . . .

            If you can somehow convince the world that the employees were coerced against their will, you may have a valid point. Maybe Giles had a small pistol out of camera range pointed at the subjects.

            Your same logic then renders every police sting illegal.
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          • Author by KingAlbert (September 19, 2009 8:42 pm ET)
               
            Over the past 40 years hidden cameras have been used as a part of TV journalism, including by such stalwarts as 60 Mins which has won damn near every award possible. During that time probably 99.9% of the footage you've seen was edited in some form or another. It's standard practice. Now, suddenly the media declares, "we've always been at war with Eastasia" and hidden camera work is forbidden and everyone is supposed to go along with it. Feh.

            The film makers went to other offices and were turned down? Okay, where's the proof? Oh, an ACORN PR flack says so? Of course, whatever they say must be assumed to be true, for some reason that escapes me even though ACORN claimed they were turned down at locations the filmakers later revealed damning footage from.
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        • Author by funnymanpants (September 18, 2009 1:24 pm ET)
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          >>Proof?

          The person in the video claimed she killed her husband. Her husband and ex-husband are alive.
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          • Author by Obamanable (September 18, 2009 1:46 pm ET)
               
            Are you guys serious? You all are just kidding, right? This pro APORN banter is all just joking on your part, admit it! Don’t tell me you are this blatantly ignorant! Let me in on the joke – come on!
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      • Author by No Fool (September 18, 2009 2:27 pm ET)
           
        The video 'evidence' shown has been edited, and the full and complete tapes have not been released.

        When has ANY news outlet EVER shown complete raw footage from their ENG? They didn't do a 60 Minutes style hack job where different questions are inserted in front of answers to manipulate outcome. These two showed plenty of camera-rolling footage that allowed the ACORN people to hang themselves.

        And stop it with the cry baby rants about Fox propaganda. You are showing your own staggering void of intellect.

        I would love to hear SOMETHING, ANYTHING that is unbiased and which would shed light upon the underlying issues of this little media circus. I'm not seeing anything on this comments section except the same old tiresome liberal whining, which is getting so old. Just because you mobilize a bunch of like-minded people to spread as much one-sided opinion as far and wide as possible does not make it factual or truthful.
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      • Author by pintobean (September 18, 2009 3:02 pm ET)
           
        You must work for MSNBC. (sour grapes)
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    • Author by Vinnster (September 18, 2009 1:00 pm ET)
         
      The bottom line will be if ACORN tries to sue Fox, which then opens the door for Fox, through discovery, to find all the criminal activity perpetrated by ACORN. Imagine Fox having the ability to request and get phone records, financial records...

      I will predict right now they will not sue...but I can dream. Would all you Liberal enablers of folks that endorse child sex trading please go to ACORN's web site and demand they sue Fox. Please.
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    • Author by jorja (September 18, 2009 1:02 pm ET)
         
      Let's keep the rhetoric down. These kids admit they had an agenda, but they only spent about $3,000. This was not a Breitbart or Fox funded million dollar project. They state they did not expect to get the response they did, and only kept going because it was a pattern that kept amazingly growing on its own. Let's be realistic: Killing the 8.5 billion in funding to ACORN could not have gotten such a HUGE majority vote in Congress - which cannot agree on anything else - just because of the videos by these kids.

      And what's with all the complaints about using hidden cameras? Do we forget history that quickly? Hidden camera reports have been a staple in TV news for years. CBS's "60 Minutes" has used them to uncover waste and fraud in the government, ABC's "Primetime Live" used them to reveal health problems in the food industry and abuse in nursing homes and "Dateline NBC" recently used them to accost sexual predators. Local news stations use them all the time.
      This is such a lame argument.
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    • Author by Obamanable (September 18, 2009 1:04 pm ET)
         
      How hilarious is this! I refer to the Left (liberals) trying to justify the corruption of APORN, or is it ACON, or is it ASPERM, or is it ACORN? Have you seen Jay Leno’s comedic bit about the revelations of ACORN Pimp and Porn? (go to youTube and search Jay Leno ACORN) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2k5Yi5pboA
      The more you justify such corruption in your minds and statements, the more you profess your ignorance, bias and irrelevance. It’s so laughable – you reinforce our contentions of indignity and blatant stupidity by your outright flagrant prejudice and misjudgments! My fellow Rightful Conservatives; we must kick them while they are down, pound them till they bleed, break their legs and bones till they can not get up, hold their heads under water till they breathe no more.
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    • Author by jgibson349687 (September 18, 2009 1:55 pm ET)
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      Jon Klein is despicable all right, and mostly for letting Dobbs speak hatefully without ANY repercussions. But CNN/US is miles ahead of Fixed Noise and Breitbart.
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      • Author by freedomforall (September 18, 2009 3:08 pm ET)
           
        What polls are you looking at?
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      • Author by force033 (September 19, 2009 8:28 am ET)
           
        Ha..Ha..Ha..Tell me, do you guys always do this when you see your base crumbling. You hold each other up with lies and distortions; does it make you feel better. I ask you all now, as the truth continues to get rolled out, refuting all of your misinformation and the Big Three's, does it make you cringe. Your right, ABC, CNN, and NBC are not the "main-stream media". They are media contortionists that flex and bend the news to reflect their agendas. Keep watching, and if you have anything between those ears and behind those eyes, maybe you will see and hear some truth. Right wing, left wing..doesn't concern me, the truth does and wow does it hurt. What will you rely on now..your race card has been played; it has failed and your all-knowing media outlets are being shown for the misdirecting fools that they are. With Acorn gone who do you turn to?
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      • Author by anthony702 (September 19, 2009 3:07 pm ET)
           
        WOW liberals are great at finding a way to deny facts. Liberalism should be considered a mental disability.
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    • Author by spartacus3344 (September 18, 2009 3:41 pm ET)
         
      Let me get this straight. An organization has been exposed that helps traffic underage girls into prostitution rings, and does it on your dime and all you people can do is rail against republicans??

      Do any of you have any shame or decency?? Don't any of you give a damn about what ACORN is doing?? Are you so insane with hate for republicans that you would prefer to see 2 young people that exposed this criminal behavior prosecuted instead of thos that advocate child rape??

      You people are disguting....
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    • Author by mow4u (September 19, 2009 5:53 am ET)
         
      Fist time visitor to this site.Never expected to find so many Left minded people here. I guess it's true about what happens when you fire a shot into a crowd.
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