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Morning Joe plays "big boo-boo" video of Fox News producer coaching 9-12 crowd

September 21, 2009 9:26 am ET

From the September 21 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:

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Candid Camera: Behind the scenes video at 9/12 protest shows Fox News producer coaching crowd

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (September 21, 2009 9:41 am ET)
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      hey,play the rest of the tape. I want a lesson from Mika.
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    • Author by captfoster2 (September 21, 2009 9:49 am ET)
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      No surprises here about Fox Noise!

      I truly believe that at some point, I see Fox Noise or some other up and coming propaganda arm of the right-wing wing of our society being just like the media mogul in that James Bond movie about 10 years ago (Pierce Brosnan) who would actually make up the news by starting a confrontation between China and Britain!

      Whether this has occurred yet or not, I don't know, but won't be surprised if and when it does!

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    • Author by epkklk851 (September 21, 2009 9:52 am ET)
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      So Fixed Spews threw that poor producer under the bus! Was it for stirring the crowd or for getting taped stirring the crowd? I will go with the latter not the former. As to the President not going on Fox, I'm with Joe. Actually, there is one interview I would love to see, I would love to see the President sit across from Beck, and I would love to see the President call him on his lies to his face. Would Becky be able to contain himself? Would he freak out like he did with that poor woman caller? Actually, he is nastiest to women, what would he say to Michelle?
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      • Author by magnolialover (September 21, 2009 10:08 am ET)
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        Nah, we know what Beck does when confronted with someone he talks bad about. Look what happened to him when he was on The View, those women pretty much destroyed him, and he looked like he was going to pee in his pants. Beck, like all other hot air vents on talk radio these days, when confronted by actual intelligent people, and they don't control the situation, normally back down, get all meek, and then come out swining again the next day when they're back in their nicely controlled radio or TV show.
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        • Author by epkklk851 (September 21, 2009 10:20 am ET)
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          "normally back down, get all meek, and then come out swining again the next day when they're back in their nicely controlled radio or TV show."

          You got that right, Glennie was particularly obnoxious on his radio show the next day. It was one of the first times I heard him be really menacing when he recounted how mean they were to him and how much he deserved an apology. Frankly, I think Whoopie showed considerable restraint, you could tell she was bristling and loathed having him there, but she still swallowed it and remained in control of her emotions. I would be pleased if I could do that myself. Of course, the President is so mellow, he takes hostility so easily, I really admired how well he handled O'Reilly last year. Its all that Hawaiian Aloha spirit coming out. We could all use some more of that.
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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (September 21, 2009 10:42 am ET)
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          and then come out swining again the next day
          Mags, I'm pretty sure you meant "swinging," but "swining" is a much better choice of word when describing Beck.
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          • Author by historygeek001 (September 21, 2009 2:28 pm ET)
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            Easy, Mags, & Epkklk,

            "Swining" it is!

            I think that the producer was definitely sacrificed for being caught, not for riling up the crowd. Fox openly cheerleads for the Republicans, openly lies about it, and seems to think that nobody will notice that they are ginning up all the controversy they possibly can. They're screaming at the top of their lungs about anything at all, making up things that are so ridiculous that any rational person would laugh it off ("Obamacare will kill old people." "Obama was born in Kenya." "Obama is a fascist/socialist/muslim/racist."), but their base is so purposely delusional that they will ignore reality in favor of the Fox mythology. They're deliberately catering to the lowest of the low.
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      • Author by mjh (September 21, 2009 5:04 pm ET)
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        "As to the President not going on Fox, I'm with Joe. Actually, there is one interview I would love to see, I would love to see the President sit across from Beck, and I would love to see the President call him on his lies to his face."


        That would be nice, epk -- there's no doubt a man as articulate and intelligent as president Obama would wipe the floor with a mental lightweight like Becky.

        But, don't forget one thing: this IS the Fox Comedy Channel we're talking about . . . if such an interview ever occurred in a Fox studio with Fox cameras, recording equipment, and editorial staff involved, their sheeple viewers would NEVER see it . . . instead, they'd see a cut up, edited version, with Obama's words twisted in such a way to appear as though Glenn Beck got the better of him, thus reaffirming Beck and the other right wing noisemakers' hero status in their eyes -- which, of course, is exactly what the Fox Comedy Channel wants . . .

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    • Author by MickD (September 21, 2009 10:04 am ET)
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      Roger Ailes is a genius? Bullsh!t! Spewing propaganda is as anti-intellectual as it comes. Barnicle must admire the piles of money those d-bags make.
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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (September 21, 2009 10:09 am ET)
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      Hey wait a minute, the producer, the "low level" employee was disciplined.

      I thought the new normal, was if a "low level" employee screwed up, the whole organization had to be taken down.

      I'm waiting.....
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    • Author by rms (September 21, 2009 10:23 am ET)
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      Not sure why she would have to be disciplined at all. This was a Fox-inspired, Fox-supported event. They were proud of their roll in it all. Why would they have a problem with a producer getting into the proper spirit, supporting the Fox concept of not just reporting the news, but helping to shape it?

      I would think a raise or a promotion - or at least an "atta boy" - would be more appropriate under the circumstances.
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    • Author by goesto11 (September 21, 2009 11:21 am ET)
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      And we all know this sort of thing NEVER happens with media outlets other than Fox, right?

      Please. This is how TV news has operated for a long time now. There are far more egregious -- not to mention dangerous -- ways in which the media are manipulating events and viewers.
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      • Author by peace4all (September 21, 2009 11:27 am ET)
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        really???..your staement has captured my attention. please post some links that show another news outfit doing the same thing that fox is doing here.
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        • Author by goesto11 (September 21, 2009 12:55 pm ET)
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          I didn't say we see it happening on camera very often. But it does happen.

          Back during the campaign, Chris Matthews used to host his show outdoors in front of a crowd a lot. When they'd come back from a commercial break, there was always a lag of a few seconds before the crowd started cheering -- waiting for the signal from an off-camera producer to let them know they were back on the air.

          I worked five years in television news. This is nothing new. I'm not condoning it, and Fox may be the most outrageous offender. But this sort of thing is more common than we'd like to believe.
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          • Author by dmhack (September 21, 2009 1:35 pm ET)
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            The lag was the crowd realizing they were on TV again. If they were prompting the audience, they'd have started before they came back on.
            I worked in broadcast journalism for nearly 20 years and at no point did the stations I worked for or any competitors have someone whipping up a crowd. If the crowd behind a reporter couldn't see a monitor, they'd generally start yelling and mugging once the reporter started talking.

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      • Author by foghornleghorn (September 21, 2009 11:38 am ET)
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        This is how TV news has operated for a long time now

        I'm guessing you got TV news confused with game shows. Then again, maybe Fox News is a 24/7 game show.
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        • Author by John Paradox (September 21, 2009 6:12 pm ET)
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          They should bring 'Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader' from their broadcast to the 'news' channel....
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      • Author by SilentObserver (September 21, 2009 11:39 am ET)
           
        Prove it!
        You must be confusing news with entertainment, which is what Fox really is.
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      • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (September 21, 2009 11:47 am ET)
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        No, we don't know if it happens at other networks, but we do know it happens at FOX Noise
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      • Author by bintx (September 21, 2009 12:14 pm ET)
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        Two things:

        No, we don't know that this is how TV news has operated for a long time.

        Fox is not a TV news network. It is an opinion network.
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    • Author by juliajayne1 (September 21, 2009 12:14 pm ET)
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      Does everybody really wanna talk to Dick Cheney? I mean unless it's for the express purpose of putting dude in jail.
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      • Author by princeofwheels (September 21, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
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        jj, who is this Dick Cheney you speak of? And I wonder if he is on that Socialized medicine the government hands out? It certainly has worked for him?

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        • Author by juliajayne1 (September 21, 2009 9:15 pm ET)
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          I'm sure he doesn't use the Government health program. I'm sure with all of his pre-existing conditions, he pays for private health insurance out of his own pocket. Ya......you betcha.
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          • Author by robyn20094113 (September 23, 2009 12:13 am ET)
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            And for sure and also likea if anyone deserves to be judged by the "death panel" it is Cheney. Ya....you betcha.
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    • Author by newzhound (September 21, 2009 12:25 pm ET)
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      I'm still laughing about Griff Jenkins' claim that Black folks were at that event.

      Not according to the video.

      Perhaps the teabaggers didn't need any waiters or busboys.
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    • Author by josemcs9057 (September 21, 2009 1:16 pm ET)
         
      what a surprise MessNBC showing this video but when the videos about the corrupt organization known as ACORN came not even a comment until the fifth or sixth day, no wonder morning joke is in third place of the morning cable news shows.
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    • Author by bnurse9786 (September 21, 2009 2:25 pm ET)
         
      President Obama went to news outlets and fox is not a news outlet, end of story.
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    • Author by John Paradox (September 21, 2009 6:15 pm ET)
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      She's been disciplined

      Locked in a room with Bill O'Reilly and a loofah?
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