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Beck claims FCC "diversity czar" Lloyd's statement that we need "more people of color, gays" in "important positions" is "un-American"

September 22, 2009 6:03 pm ET

From the September 22 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

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    • Author by pete592 (September 22, 2009 6:16 pm ET)
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      Fock Snooze Alert!

      It's a secret plot to subvert grouchy white men!

      BOOWA HA HA HA HA!
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    • Author by moe (September 22, 2009 6:18 pm ET)
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      There is a series of articles on salon.com that will help make perfect sense of this narcissist.

      Beck has a history of doing just about anything for attention and this is just his latest shtick. Glenn Beck cares about one thing and that is obviously himself. Self-absorbed doesn't quite do it; sociopath might.

      Let's all get on our knees and pray for him and protection for his staff.
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (September 22, 2009 6:54 pm ET)
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        I don't think he'll be around very long. For one thing, he's not going to keep the attention of a large audience with his ever-present chalk board. Television viewers, generally, have notoriously short attention spans...and I can just imagine what the attention span of the average FOX viewer must be.
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        • Author by srichardson (September 22, 2009 8:00 pm ET)
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          Hopefully he won't be around much longer. I tried to watch his show today and I had to finally turn it over. He just goes on and on and on....and still says nothing. And since he no longer has many sponsors, it takes forever in between commercial breaks. One of the women I teach with today told me she is in love with him. That he's cute and adorable. What is wrong with people!!1
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        • Author by fairliberal (September 22, 2009 9:49 pm ET)
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          Yeah really short attention spans, only about 10 years or so. Compare that to the attention spans of the lefty listeners and all of their failed shows and hosts.
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          • Author by bintx (September 23, 2009 11:27 am ET)
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            Obviously, you are one of the loyal listeners/viewers. You really should get payment for your loyalty. Nobody should have that kind of bizarre and creepy loyalty without getting paid for it. You really do need to broaden your horizons. There are lots of other entertainment programs available on television . . . you shouldn't just limit yourself to one that pretends to be a news network.
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            • Author by mescal (September 24, 2009 3:04 am ET)
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              "You really should get paid for your loyalty. Nobody should have that kind of bizarre and creepy loyalty without getting paid for it." - bintx to Fauxliberal

              She DOES get paid for it! Feauxliberal is an employee of Faux News and a paid troll. I've confronted her about this dozens of times, and she has yet to deny it.

              Don't believe me? Then YOU explain this sort of fawning, sycophantic behavior, this continual reciting of the roster of Faux News Channel's faux liberals, and her ubiquitous citing of the Faux News Channel's ratings?
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        • Author by shtguard (September 23, 2009 6:51 am ET)
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          See, i totally agree with that, problem is, the people who agree with this GARBAGE have very few other places to go to re-assure themselves of these thoughts, so, they might stay a whiles longer than they normally would have.

          It is a sad sad state that this guy is on NATIONAL TV, this is stuff you should only hear on radio and see on websites/youtube videos.
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        • Author by thundavolt (September 23, 2009 6:57 am ET)
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          I agree. It's just a TV show at the end of the day. It's fun when the story is new but sooner or later missing a few episodes doesn't hurt. He knows this that's why he gives teasers on Fridays and drags out issue all week. The only problem is it's usually not what it's been hyped up to be. He certainly offends some of his viewers daily. So slowly he's dying off and he will loses it when he realizes this.
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    • Author by Doug-Life (September 22, 2009 6:28 pm ET)
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      He thinks that it's un-American to encourage nonwhites and gays to get an education and strive to attain positions of power? How?
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      • Author by Brabantio (September 22, 2009 6:48 pm ET)
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        Apparently that sort of thing is for white, straight men, just like the Founding Fathers.
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      • Author by rugger69 (September 22, 2009 7:34 pm ET)
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        You people can not think for your selves what he is saying is that he will demand minority, ethnic and gender type quotas for everything.
        Basically you will have to hire someone not based on their qualifications but based on their race, gender or what ever else the government will mandate.

        That to me sounds unreasonable to be told who and why to hire someone. As a business man I will close my doors and retire I already have to maintain a certain work force in order to bid on work and it is not fair at all. I have to carry people for a job and they know it they can be some of the worse employees.
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        • Author by open_mind (September 22, 2009 8:42 pm ET)
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          If it is not fair that you "already have to maintain a certain work force in order to bid on work...", then just don't bid on it. All of the companies competing for that work have the exact same requirements as you do. If you cannot compete by the same rules then don't compete and do other work instead. It's called capitalism.
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          • Author by rugger69 (September 22, 2009 10:24 pm ET)
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            No it is not capitalism when the government dictates who your work force has to include in order to operate. This has been the problem for years if some one thinks something is unfair they lobby the government to "control" the problem.

            That is what has happened to health care the government has placed rule after rule on them and force the company into positions, yet
            everyone thinks it is the "greedy capitalists" that are doing it.

            The government needs to cut taxes to the bones and cut all the government programs that we have and can not afford. Get rid of social security and put the money back in our checks.

            The government is not here to be our mommy or daddy they are not here to make sure we have a retirement, health care or a education. Get rid of the public school system they dont teach kids any more let private business care them over and pay teachers what they are worth
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            • Author by open_mind (September 23, 2009 12:00 am ET)
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              Of course it is capitalism. What don't you understand? Customers make requirements of the people who do work for them all of the time. I hired some guys to work on my gutters and I required that they were bonded and insured. I hired some contractors and required that they did not smoke in my house. Government is the customer in your situation. If you don't like their terms then don't sell to them. It is just that simple and it is capitalism functioning at its best.
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            • Author by Doug-Life (September 23, 2009 1:09 pm ET)
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              I agree with you about social security, but that will never happen since it's basically been turned into a giant ponzi scheme.
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        • Author by worrierking (September 22, 2009 9:20 pm ET)
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          "...they know it they can be some of the worse employees."

          Care to elaborate? Or should we just assume you mean "those people".

          And you guys wonder why you're accused of being racists.
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          • Author by richardsimones (September 22, 2009 9:48 pm ET)
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            No he was talking about white men. If someone knows they cannot be fired and are needed on a purely superficial basis, what is the incentive to work? That is why FDR was full of it when he suggested that everyone is entitled to employment.
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          • Author by rugger69 (September 22, 2009 10:35 pm ET)
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            So let me get this right your telling me it is OK for the government to mandates who I am to hire and even if they are useless I must keep them or risk being sued is that correct?

            That doesn't sounds all that good to me but I guess in the Constitution there is something that says everyone has the right to a job no matter what even if they are not willing or qualified, all they have to be is the correct ethnicity, sex or religion.

            I missed that in my studies at the jr college I guess they just teach that at Harvard or Yale type schools.
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            • Author by open_mind (September 23, 2009 12:08 am ET)
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              No. The government is hiring you to do a job. If you do not like their terms, you do not have to present a bid for the work. Nobody is forcing you to do anything. There are other customers who may have different or lesser requirements. Why don't you focus on them?

              My job requires that I wear a suit every day to work, if it really bothered me that much, I would just find another employer or line of work. You seem to feel you are entitled to having everything your way all of the time as you see it.

              Personally, I cannot see how a minority or anyone else would want to work for an employer who apparently seems to think that minorities are useless and inherently not qualified for the job.
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              • Author by LKL (September 23, 2009 9:24 am ET)
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                Exactly. It's like Rugger thinks he has a constitutional right to win government contracts.
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                • Author by rugger69 (September 23, 2009 6:07 pm ET)
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                  I did not say government contracts this has entered into all work environments today not just the government. If the government would quit sticking its nose into everything we would not have these problems.
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                  • Author by open_mind (September 23, 2009 6:17 pm ET)
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                    "[A]ll work environments"? Seriously? I can say I have never been told who I can hire and fire, so your statement is false on its face.

                    If you have a specific example of a law or story from a reputable source, please post it so I can figure out what you are getting at here.
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                    • Author by LKL (September 23, 2009 7:45 pm ET)
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                      Rugger, you said the government "dictates who your work force has to include" and that "you will have to hire someone not based on their qualifications but based on their race, gender or what ever else the government will mandate."

                      As openmind says, the government does no such thing. The law only says that you can't refuse to hire someone who's qualified if your only basis for refusal is that person's race (or sex, etc.). That is about a universe away from dictating your work force and forcing you to hire unqualified minorities.
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                      • Author by rugger69 (September 24, 2009 5:07 pm ET)
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                        What is affirmative action programs then? Why is it when you fire some one and have plenty of evidence against them the EEOC visits you.

                        Then after reading your documentation the EEOC launches a investigation any way.
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                        • Author by rugger69 (September 24, 2009 5:09 pm ET)
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                          After your lawyer and the EEOC meet your lawyer says it is in your best interest to just settle of they will drag this out for months and it will cost you even more.

                          Bottom line he says the government has all the power and this person knows it that is way he went to the EEOC, because he can and will win every time no matter what evidence you have.
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                          • Author by open_mind (September 24, 2009 7:21 pm ET)
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                            So let's just say someone was actually fired because they were black, you don't think they should have any recourse?

                            Secondly, if someone really is a lousy worker, it is very easy to document the ways in which they failed to do their job. Most businesses have no problem with the EEOC ever.
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                            • Author by rugger69 (September 24, 2009 10:47 pm ET)
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                              You my friend have never had to deal with them or have any idea how "persuasive" government agencies can be. When the government wants you to do something you have no recourse but to do it.

                              You will be gently told how different agencies will visit you regularly to ensure you are playing by all rules.

                              As a business man you play by the government rules or you don't play at all.
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        • Author by Doug-Life (September 22, 2009 9:38 pm ET)
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          Affirmative action for entry-level or other blue-collar jobs is one thing, positions of power is another. People like politicians or ceo's have to be voted in. Nobody cares if you're gay, straight, black or white. Voters/shareholders are looking for profits or results or both.
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          • Author by rugger69 (September 22, 2009 10:37 pm ET)
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            Give me a break the minute a company hire a certain type it is splashed all over the world -LOOK WHO WE HIRED LOOK AT US AREN'T WE NICE PEOPLE- BUY OR PRODUCTS, SHOP OUR STORES BLAH BLAH BLAH.

            But that NEVER happens!?!?!?!?
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            • Author by bintx (September 23, 2009 11:30 am ET)
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              "a certain type"???

              Again, racist much?
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              • Author by rugger69 (September 23, 2009 8:48 pm ET)
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                Yes when the government mandates a company to hire a certain type to me that is racism. For a government to mandate this says a group can't succeed with out a uneven playing field.


                They need to be helped or you need to dumb down the standard in order for a certain group to be admitted. Why if you are looking for the best and brightest but then you have to take the not so qualified where is the fairness in that??
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                • Author by open_mind (September 25, 2009 11:44 am ET)
                     
                  I think that when you call a "certain type" useless, it is racism. You have obviously prejudged a "certain type" of people. That is exactly why there is a need to make sure qualified applicants are not overlooked simply by being a "certain type".

                  Thank you for re-affirming why we do this.
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          • Author by internet soldier (September 23, 2009 9:23 am ET)
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            Voters/shareholders are looking for profits or results or both.

            I don't know about that; there seems to be bidding war for the CEO's who destroyed the economy by selling worthless mortgages. Their bonuses certainly haven't been effected.
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            • Author by Doug-Life (September 23, 2009 2:04 pm ET)
                 
              You're right. Same thing goes for the politicians that oversaw the CRA and FNMA & FRE.
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        • Author by mescal (September 23, 2009 2:27 am ET)
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          Wingnuts have been pushing this bullsh!t for half a century now. Nobody is demanding quotas, and nobody HAS been demanding quotas. It is simply a tired, old canard that bigots have erected in order to shield themselves from the consequences of their own discrimination.
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        • Author by bintx (September 23, 2009 11:28 am ET)
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          "they"?????

          Racist much?
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      • Author by WorldViewer (September 22, 2009 7:44 pm ET)
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        I can very much understand having a problem with the quote that he cited. I really do.

        But I just can't understand having the problem that HE has with that quote.
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      • Author by Flaboy (September 22, 2009 9:28 pm ET)
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        he thinks its unamerican to fire a white american male, or have him step down just because he is white, and replace him with a non white or gay, just because they need more minorities in certain possitions, believe it or not, the quoto system that was going on in the 80s,was a form of discrimination then, and it still is today
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        • Author by WorldViewer (September 23, 2009 10:21 am ET)
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          I agree with you completely. Affirmative action is one issue on which I'm probably in general disagreement with many members of this site. I just think that Beck's elucidation of the problem is incoherent, problematic, and masks the true insidiousness of the problem. Beck, even on the occasion that he is partially right, comes across as a drunken stumblebum.
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        • Author by open_mind (September 23, 2009 11:43 am ET)
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          No white guy is fired to make way for women, minorities or gays. Get real. That's not how it works at all.

          If you still believe this is indeed the case, show some examples where this happens. I would love to see that.
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          • Author by Flaboy (September 23, 2009 8:15 pm ET)
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            Im not saying it happens, just that the diversity czar said that white males need to step down, so minorities can be placed in their positions and i dont agree with that, if they are doing a good job they shouldnt have to step down because they are white
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            • Author by open_mind (September 25, 2009 11:42 am ET)
                 
              I think we have different opinions on how diversity can have an impact on society in a positive way. I am white, but I realize that there are limits to my understanding of minority issues due to my own experiences. It seems reasonable to me that minorities are under-represented especially in decisions that directly impact them. I see no problem with the "diversity czar's" statement.
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    • Author by nativeofsf (September 22, 2009 6:54 pm ET)
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      That Schmucktard Glen Beck is a real freaking Nazi! He delights, as Herr Hannity does, in stepping-on & over others who dwarf his intellectual capacity. He is a figment of anything resembling anything American.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (September 22, 2009 6:56 pm ET)
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      I watched part of his show today. He also said that "social justice" is somehow a Marxist concept. Very strange man...
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      • Author by Bronwyn (September 22, 2009 7:33 pm ET)
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        Isn't that exactly what Beck wants? For the Black Man to step down and give the power back to a white man?
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        • Author by IRONY 101 (September 22, 2009 7:38 pm ET)
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          I think Beck not only wants the black man to step down...I think he would prefer the black man to return to Africa. Glennn is uncomfortable around black people...they make him nervous.
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          • Author by Bronwyn (September 24, 2009 2:33 am ET)
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            Like people with brains make him nervous. I think he is very uncomfortable around educated people. He looked so sheepish and almost sad or scared during the Couric interview.
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    • Author by New Frontier (September 22, 2009 7:19 pm ET)
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      Beck: "What you heard from the diversity 'czar' is so opposite of what we're used to!!"


      White people like you and me, who have always enjoyed an upper hand, are not accustomed to sharing power with gays and people of color, like the black Obama's black guy in the photo wants to do.
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    • Author by WorldViewer (September 22, 2009 7:38 pm ET)
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      When will Biff (Glenn Beck looks like Biff from Back to the Future) needs to stop complaining that we don't find things "in that pesky constitution".

      Doesn't he realize that under our system of government, NOT EVEN COUNTING THE 10th AMENDMENT, almost NONE of the laws that govern us are enumerated in the constitution, and that neither Rep. or Dem. administrations, and neither intelligent liberals or conservatives, have argued it should be any other way?
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      • Author by MagCynic (September 22, 2009 8:33 pm ET)
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        Perhaps it's about time we start discussing this topic then?
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        • Author by WorldViewer (September 22, 2009 9:03 pm ET)
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          Who, as in "we"?
          Where? Here, on this discussion board?
          Are you asking because you dislike that the statement I made isn't that which is acknowledged by pundits/politicians, or because you think it's a good point and just want to talk about it?

          Not flaming you, just like to know with whom I'm speaking.
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    • Author by Flaboy (September 22, 2009 9:17 pm ET)
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      I watch several different news channels, usually cnn, after everybody at work started talking about glenn beck i started watching him some, it was when he was acusing van jones, saying he was a self aclaimed communist, and a bunch of other stuff, i tried to find news stations on other channels that would try to debunk becks accusations, but instead all they were doing is calling him names, is there anybody out there that can prove van jones did not say these things, or prove beck wrong on other accusations it seems every time beck accuses anybody for something, they end up fired, or moved.
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    • Author by Flaboy (September 24, 2009 7:11 pm ET)
         
      U say dont believe the news stations, use google to get the real news, wanted to find out if beck was lying about van jones ever being a communist, 9-11 truther, or has ever said the racist things beck said he has, so i googled in van jones, not only has glenn beck been telling the truth, but has actually taken it easy on him, how did this guy get to the white house, he makes you feel guilty just for being white
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