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Couric confronts Beck about ColorOfChange.org boycott; Beck says Americans need to be able to "speak without fear"

September 22, 2009 10:50 pm ET

From the September 22 edition of CBSNews.com's @katiecouric:

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    • Author by achorn316 (September 22, 2009 11:02 pm ET)
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      he doesnt believe in boycotts?

      America was founded partially on the boycotting of British goods. In fact one of the things they boycotted was.. tea. You know.. the tea party???

      Mr. Beck.. why do you hate the founding fathers?

      btw.. that whole "I dont spend much time thinking about it" line was such BS im surprised he could keep a straight face.
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      • Author by robyn20094113 (September 23, 2009 2:54 am ET)
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        I thought we were going to see real tears for the first time from beck. Ha Ha He sure spent a lot of time trying to get Even, for not spending a lot of time thinking about it.
        Glenn better take that day of fasting and prayer to make up for all the lying he does.
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    • Author by brianboyd (September 22, 2009 11:06 pm ET)
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      Ironic since fear is perhaps the foremost emotion Beck's speech seeks to inspire.
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    • Author by godhelpus (September 22, 2009 11:09 pm ET)
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      achom, you took the words out of my mouth- touche.
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    • Author by captfoster2 (September 22, 2009 11:10 pm ET)
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      I do give Katie Couric credit for being willing to be so close to a guy who is ' this ' close to losing it completely.

      I said this on another thread... The Glenn Beck saga is not going to end on a good note... I almost feel sorry for him.

      Almost.
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (September 22, 2009 11:49 pm ET)
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        I almost feel sorry for him.

        Don't...
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      • Author by pete592 (September 23, 2009 12:40 am ET)
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        I'm starting to wonder if he'll wear out his welcome amongst the other right-wing professional liars to a point that they could end up being the engineers of his demise.
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      • Author by robyn20094113 (September 23, 2009 2:57 am ET)
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        He is a suicide waiting to happen. Or a mental ward patient for sure.
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    • Author by MickD (September 22, 2009 11:11 pm ET)
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      Dude, speak "without fear" all you want, but also be ready to accept the consequences in a forum based on commerce.
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    • Author by snoopy (September 22, 2009 11:20 pm ET)
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      [http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg93/JonM229/roflbothzlj.jpg]
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      • Author by jonesjax2374 (September 23, 2009 12:10 am ET)
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        LOL! I love the artful posts on this site - howling!!! With Apologeeeeze to the LOL CATS...
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      • Author by hrhc13 (September 23, 2009 1:24 am ET)
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        ROFLMAO I am kicking myself right now for not coming up with that one myself. :)
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    • Author by phredicles (September 22, 2009 11:20 pm ET)
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      Speak without fear, as in being able to advocate for a more equitable health care system without being screamed at by maniacs carrying assault rifles?
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      • Author by kydem09 (September 23, 2009 8:39 am ET)
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        Yep, just like a desire to be able to go vote without fear of being confronted by baton-wielding members of the Black Panthers.
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        • Author by worrierking (September 23, 2009 8:43 am ET)
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          Black Panthers? Are you still living in Chicago in 1968?

          What is it with your sides fascination with sixties radicals? Join the 21st Century.
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          • Author by kydem09 (September 23, 2009 9:57 am ET)
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            No, I'm talking about the Black Panthers intimidating voters in Philadelphia in the 2008 election. Why don't you read up on more current events?
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            • Author by worrierking (September 23, 2009 10:50 am ET)
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              So it's OK for a white guy to show up at a presidential event with a gun, but scary black guys showing up with nightsticks near polling places is not.

              I'm from Philadelphia and Philadelphia has a long history of intimidating black voters at the polls. I don't need to read up on current events, especially in Philadelphia.

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              • Author by wingverine (September 23, 2009 11:13 am ET)
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                LOOK at the PICTURES worrierking! He was a BLACK man in Phoenix with the Rifle on his back. MSNBC didn't show you his head, they stopped at his shoulders. They showed him on the local news...Once again ...HE WAS BLACK!!! Research it, before you make an Oberman Statement.
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              • Author by wingverine (September 23, 2009 11:35 am ET)
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                I'll try this again. The guy in Phoenix with a Rifle on his back was BLACK. He was not WHITE. The local news here showed it way before it became a BIG deal. So Look it up you will clearly see his color.
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              • Author by puppienrainbows (September 23, 2009 11:35 am ET)
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                Who said it was ok for anyone to show up at a presidential event with a gun? Who said it was "ok"?
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                • Author by kydem09 (September 23, 2009 11:38 am ET)
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                  Not me.
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                  • Author by foghornleghorn (September 23, 2009 11:46 am ET)
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                    Those "Black Panthers" showed up at ONE polling station and were removed by the police.

                    More false outrage. And racist fear of the black man.
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                    • Author by kydem09 (September 23, 2009 12:02 pm ET)
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                      And exactly how many people showed up with guns at the rallies? Do you have a tally on it? Besides, I don't care how many polling stations they showed up at, they got off with a slap of the wrist because of the double standard and hypocrisy of the left with regard leftist radicals as opposed to conservative radicals. You know damned good and well that if the KKK showed up at a polling station and intimidated voters that they would have received much harsher justice. And rightfully so.

                      Fog, your false charges of racism against anyone who dares challenge you and your leftist beliefs is meant to silence people and intimidate them from speaking their minds. You, my friend, are un-American for using such tactics.
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                      • Author by foghornleghorn (September 23, 2009 12:23 pm ET)
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                        I don't care how many polling stations they showed up at, they got off with a slap of the wrist

                        You don't care? They showed up at ONE polling station.

                        A slap on the wrist? What crime did they commit?

                        By perpetrating the false outrage of these non-Black Panthers playing dress up in front of ONE polling station and being promptly removed by the police is, in fact, racist hatred of the black man. That you can't see that is your problem.

                        Don't forget, it's usually the racists who can't recognize their own racism.
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                        • Author by historygeek001 (September 23, 2009 1:17 pm ET)
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                          Foghorn said "Don't forget, it's usually the racists who can't recognize their own racism."

                          Nah. They RECOGNIZE it, they just don't ADMIT it. We have come far enough that they realize their attitude is completely stupid so they pretend they're not bigots and get indignant when their dishonesty and bigotry are pointed out.
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                      • Author by open_mind (September 23, 2009 12:38 pm ET)
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                        They didn't even get a slap on the wrist. There is no evidence they even did anything. Lol.
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                      • Author by The_Cat (September 23, 2009 12:47 pm ET)
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                        Got a question for you, kydem09. I've seen at least half a dozen armed individuals from town hall coverage this summer, all opposed to health reform.

                        Now, how many people showed up carrying firearms during President Bush's terms? How many showed up to a location armed where President Bush was giving a speech? (I'll give you a hint: It was less than one...)
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                      • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 23, 2009 3:33 pm ET)
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                        "Besides, I don't care how many polling stations they showed up at, they got off with a slap of the wrist because of the double standard and hypocrisy of the left with regard leftist radicals as opposed to conservative radicals." ky

                        Really? So how many of the armed right-wing radicals were arrested or given slaps on the wrist at the townhall meetings?
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                  • Author by puppienrainbows (September 23, 2009 11:50 am ET)
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                    Just more phony outrage on the left to gin up hatred for anyone who opposes or criticizes King Obama.
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                    • Author by The_Cat (September 23, 2009 12:44 pm ET)
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                      How is it that only conservatives call Obama names like 'King Obama' and proclaim other believe he is the messiah come again, or some minor demi-god come to earth to free us poor enslaved mortals? Liberals don't do this, don't espouse this, and don't believe this.

                      It was President Bush, by the way, who opined how much easier his job would be if he were a dictator.
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            • Author by The_Cat (September 23, 2009 11:06 am ET)
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              "Leventhal could not confirm that the Black Panthers were on the scene intimidating voters, saying, "There's been no disturbances that I'm aware of, except what we've encountered here. But again, I want to make very clear, we don't know that any voters were denied entrance to this polling facility. We don't know that anyone was intimidated to the point that they decided not to vote here, but that was what some people were concerned might be happening with two Black Panthers, one of them holding a nightstick, out front."

              Here you go, kydem09. Now, have charges been filed? Were you aware that one of the Black Panthers out front was a certified poll watcher? And that, except for telling this FOX Propaganda reporter to move along, there were no incidents, according to FOX's own reporting?
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              • Author by kydem09 (September 23, 2009 11:47 am ET)
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                Charges were filed and the Justice Department obtained an injunction in the case. And if you'd look at anything besides HuffPo, you'd learn that a civil rights attorney who was a former campaign manager to Robert Kennedy is the person who filed the original complaint and outlined the charges against these Black Panther members.

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                • Author by bintx (September 23, 2009 11:53 am ET)
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                  If you've been reading, you know that the charges were dropped because there was no evidence of intimidation.
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                  • Author by kydem09 (September 23, 2009 12:04 pm ET)
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                    If you've been reading, there is now an internal investigation into the whole matter. This is far from over.
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                    • Author by open_mind (September 23, 2009 12:40 pm ET)
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                      Who is investigating? A link would be nice.
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                    • Author by The_Cat (September 23, 2009 12:41 pm ET)
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                      "A Republican poll watcher called police to allege that two members of the New Black Panthers group were intimidating voters at the polls at 12th and Fairmount, according to an attorney working with the McCain campaign on election matters.

                      But police and an investigator from the district attorney's office went to inquire and found no evidence of that, according to spokespeople for both offices."

                      Is this link more to your liking, kydem09?
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                      • Author by worrierking (September 23, 2009 2:39 pm ET)
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                        I wasn't aware that there were enough Republicans in the area of 12th and Fairmount to warrant a Republican poll watcher.
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            • Author by open_mind (September 23, 2009 11:29 am ET)
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              Are you afraid of black men? Why? What were they doing to "intimidate" anyone? Being black? Imagine the nerve!
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            • Author by bintx (September 23, 2009 11:52 am ET)
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              Um, they weren't "intimidating voters," and they weren't "Black Panthers." The only network reporting this nonsense was Fox and there is evidence that Fox created the story, just like they created the screaming crowds at the teabaggers convention.

              Try expanding your horizons a bit, you might find out that you're being lied to on Fox.
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              • Author by kydem09 (September 23, 2009 12:05 pm ET)
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                Ummm, no, it's just more evidence that the media does not do it's job anymore. Show me your evidence that Fox created the story. You can't throw a baseless charge like that around without providing proof.
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                • Author by The_Cat (September 23, 2009 12:39 pm ET)
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                  "You can't throw a baseless charge like that around without providing proof."

                  You know, Glenn Beck violently disagrees with you, based on every minute of every broadcast he's ever done, kydem09.
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                • Author by historygeek001 (September 23, 2009 1:27 pm ET)
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                  You have yet to provide evidence that it happened the way you said it did. You can't throw a baseless charge like that around without providing proof.
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        • Author by snoopy (September 23, 2009 9:21 am ET)
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          You mean those mean black people who were actually part of a dance troup?

          Glenn Beck's scary negro militants turn out to be really, really scary dancers

          Must be that ever present fear of tutu's driving you...
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          • Author by craig98607271 (September 23, 2009 10:22 am ET)
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            can't stand glenn but what does they being dancers have anything to do with the voter intimidation. nice spin.
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        • Author by puppienrainbows (September 23, 2009 11:32 am ET)
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          Or voice your opposition to Obamacare without getting a finger bitten off!
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (September 23, 2009 11:48 am ET)
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            More false outrage. Try again.
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            • Author by puppienrainbows (September 23, 2009 11:54 am ET)
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              "False" outrage? Are you suggesting that it didn't happen? An Obama supporter bit off the finger of an Obama protester and ran away. It was in California.
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              • Author by foghornleghorn (September 23, 2009 12:01 pm ET)
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                My only answer to that is:

                SO WHAT?

                It's meaningless. It's nothing. It's a non-story. It's a shiny object to distract the easily distracted (you) from the real issues.

                That's why it's a false outrage. Make a note of it.
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                • Author by puppienrainbows (September 23, 2009 12:08 pm ET)
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                  "SO WHAT?" That says it all, foghorn, but just imagine YOUR outrage if the response on the right to an equivalent act of violence on an Obama supporter was, "SO WHAT?".
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                  • Author by open_mind (September 23, 2009 12:42 pm ET)
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                    So you are saying basically that you can't just punch someone in the face anymore without consequence? What is the world coming to?!
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              • Author by DellDolly (September 23, 2009 12:35 pm ET)
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                An opponent of health care reform attacked a supporter, and in defending himself, that supporter bit just the very tip of the finger of the opponent off. After the righty attacked him first. After the righty had verbally and physically confronted a polite petite woman minutes earlier.

                Since when is defending yourself from a physical attack wrong? Words were exchanged, and then the anti-health care reform guy threw the first punch.
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                • Author by DellDolly (September 23, 2009 12:36 pm ET)
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                  Beck says that Americans need to be able to speak without fear. Well, the health care reform guy was speaking to the anti guy and he got punched.
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                • Author by puppienrainbows (September 23, 2009 1:32 pm ET)
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                  Then why did the 'biter' run? It's not self defense when you bite someone's finger. I haven't heard of any punches thrown. Did you make that up?
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                  • Author by historygeek001 (September 23, 2009 1:38 pm ET)
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                    "I haven't heard of any punches thrown." Then get additional news sources.

                    http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-finger-bitten-rally,0,7135717.story

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                  • Author by jmille426471 (September 23, 2009 1:54 pm ET)
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                    Then why did the 'biter' run?

                    He didn't.
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                  • Author by worrierking (September 23, 2009 2:43 pm ET)
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                    OK, no punches were thrown.

                    There was just a guy standing around minding his own business and someone came up and bit his finger off.

                    Not to justify biting off body parts, but maybe the guy had his finger where it didn't belong
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              • Author by phredicles (September 23, 2009 1:14 pm ET)
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                It happened. But as I recall, it happened AFTER the guy who ended up losing his finger punched the other guy in the face. Or did you just forget to mention that part of the incident?
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          • Author by bintx (September 23, 2009 11:54 am ET)
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            Do you ever post facts or do you just post hyperbole? I'm leaning toward the latter.
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            • Author by puppienrainbows (September 23, 2009 11:56 am ET)
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              Are you saying it didn't happen?
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              • Author by puppienrainbows (September 23, 2009 12:11 pm ET)
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                ......foghorn says it happened but suggests that kind of violence is ok.
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              • Author by DellDolly (September 23, 2009 12:51 pm ET)
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                PIR, what you suggested happened did not happen. A finger was not bitten off. It was only the very tip of the finger. The tip of the finger was not bitten off because the guy was voicing opposition to Obama's health care reform. Very few people who attend rallies in opposition to health care reform actually voice opposition to Obama's plan. They lie about the plan, and mislead people about the issues for the most part. But more importantly, he wasn't bitten because of his protesting. He was bitten because he punched someone very hard in the face after he and another guy had exchanged harsh words. He escalated the argument to physical violence.

                So, yeah, I am saying that what you claimed happened didn't happen.

                The guy whose finger was bitten had harassed and physically intimidated a polite, petite woman minutes earlier. There was then a verbal confrontation with a male, and he then hit that man, dropping him to the ground after a direct connection with the guy's face! What you said was that someone got their finger bitten off for voicing opposition to Obama's health care reform, and that's not what happened. He threw a second punch, his fingers ended up in the guy's mouth, and the guy bit down after the second punch. He got bit because he punched someone, not because he voiced opposition.
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                • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 23, 2009 3:42 pm ET)
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                  The Republican party officially has no principles anymore. They vociferously defend arresting a man on his own property for being rude to the "authorities" and they now go after a man who defended himself after being physically attacked. Say what you want about Republicans, there used to be plenty who had actual principles bigger than politics and bigger than their party. That is just no longer true and the entire political discourse suffers for it.
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 23, 2009 3:39 pm ET)
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            "Or voice your opposition to Obamacare without getting a finger bitten off!" - puffinrainbows

            Weren't you the one accusing others of phony outrage? Now, you are suggesting that people are afraid to oppose Democratic ideas for healthcare change because they'll get their fingers bitten off? That is pathetic.
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    • Author by open_mind (September 22, 2009 11:38 pm ET)
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      I think it is great when people "speak without fear". Maybe conservatives should crawl out from under the bed and try it sometime.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (September 22, 2009 11:47 pm ET)
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      Who are you afraid of, Glennn? Good, rational Americans who think you are a stark raving mad loon? They won't hurt you, Glennn...they just want you to take some time off to get help. ;>)
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    • Author by Barry Bonds (September 22, 2009 11:52 pm ET)
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      Except for Van Jones. What a piece of work.
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      • Author by Brabantio (September 23, 2009 12:12 am ET)
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        It cuts both ways, good point. If Jones is accountable for what he says, then so is Beck. "Speak without fear" is the same sort of nonsense as crying "freedom of speech" when someone on the right says something outrageous, then turning around and criticizing someone on the left for something they find to be outrageous.
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      • Author by kydem09 (September 23, 2009 8:40 am ET)
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        False equivalency alert.
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        • Author by Brabantio (September 23, 2009 8:46 am ET)
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          How is that? What distinction do you think is relevant, and why?
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          • Author by kydem09 (September 23, 2009 9:58 am ET)
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            Beck never tried to silence Jones, he just opposed Jones having a seat at the table in the White House when he was a radical, self-described communist.
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            • Author by Brabantio (September 23, 2009 11:03 am ET)
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              If Jones is out of his job because of what he said, then how is that not comparable to the idea of Beck being out of his job because of what he said? Why shouldn't people oppose him having a role in the public discourse when his comments show him to be a flamethrower?

              I think the comparison works against you, because Jones was an adviser. If you really think that Obama would be influenced beyond his normal boundaries of reason, then that same logic applies to any number of people who hear Beck say things like "the Republic is in danger". They would also be vulnerable to such influence, and their actions would be affected.
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              • Author by puppienrainbows (September 23, 2009 11:38 am ET)
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                Glenn Beck doesn't make policy. Obama, with the advice of a self-proclaimed radical, does. That's the big difference. It should be obvious.
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                • Author by Brabantio (September 23, 2009 11:52 am ET)
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                  And Van Jones isn't riling up millions of people who may or may not own firearms, either. In both cases there's a problem, right?
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                  • Author by puppienrainbows (September 23, 2009 12:03 pm ET)
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                    You call it "riling" up. I call it informing a population,albeit, with a rather large bullhorn. I give the American people more credit than you do. America is starting to wake up to the radical policies Obama wants to saddle us with and the polls are showing it.
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                    • Author by Brabantio (September 23, 2009 12:17 pm ET)
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                      So Obama can't distinguish between good advice and dangerous advice, but the general audience for Beck can distinguish and dismiss Beck's inflammatory rhetoric.

                      Is that about right?
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                      • Author by puppienrainbows (September 23, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
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                        I think President Obama is a very intelligent man and certainly can differentiate between good and bad advice. I also believe Obama is agenda driven and arrogant enough to ignore a 'gut' feeling in favor of pushing what all polls say is a bad healthcare plan and a dangerous economic policy. As far as Beck's inflammatory rhetoric, his radio show is clearly satire and I believe most people can tell the difference.
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                        • Author by foghornleghorn (September 23, 2009 12:29 pm ET)
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                          I also believe Obama is agenda driven

                          What "agenda" would that be?

                          his radio show is clearly satire and I believe most people can tell the difference.

                          You just jumped the shark with that whopper.

                          I guess you missed the fact that people say they listen to Beck because he gives them "news" they can't get anywhere else. You know, the paranoid racist socialist fascist communist conspiracy theory news.
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                        • Author by Brabantio (September 23, 2009 12:34 pm ET)
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                          A few minutes ago you said he was informing the public. Now it's satire. Either he's waking people up to some radical agenda or he's just kidding around.
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                          • Author by puppienrainbows (September 23, 2009 1:38 pm ET)
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                            Satire isn't just 'kidding around'. Look it up. Satire is a wry, sometimes hyperbolic expression which always carries an element of truth. It's that element of truth that strikes most people who listen to Beck. You guys just can't stand the fact that Glenn pokes fun of Obama and his band of clowns.
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                            • Author by Brabantio (September 23, 2009 1:47 pm ET)
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                              Let's take Colbert as an example. He's satirizing Bill O'Reilly. The element of truth there is that much of what he says is of the same nature as what O'Reilly says. That's not pushing O'Reilly's point of view on people, though.

                              So how is it satire while at the same time it's supposed to carry a serious anti-Obama message?
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                        • Author by Brabantio (September 23, 2009 12:40 pm ET)
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                          And let me also ask, how exactly would you tell the difference, in this case? He's not on a comedy network, like Colbert is. He's on a news network. He never claims that he's not serious, does he? You can hope that he's just joking, but I don't see what's supposed to suggest it. The mere appearance of being an insane conspiracy theorist doesn't in itself preclude the idea that he's actually an insane conspiracy theorist.
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                        • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 23, 2009 3:53 pm ET)
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                          "I call it informing a population,albeit, with a rather large bullhorn." - puffinrainbows

                          "his radio show is clearly satire and I believe most people can tell the difference" - puffinrainbows

                          But, clearly you cannot tell the difference. Which is it? Is he informing the population or doing what is "clearly satire"? Can you guys at least stick to one coherent defense when defending your entertainers disguised as political leaders?
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                    • Author by historygeek001 (September 23, 2009 1:40 pm ET)
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                      If you think Beck is providing "information," then you are, at best, delusional.
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                • Author by bintx (September 23, 2009 11:56 am ET)
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                  Van Jones didn't make policy, either. He was just a very low-level advisor.

                  I'll say again, you are one of the least informed posters on this site . . . and I'm sure it would hold true on any other site where you post.
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                  • Author by puppienrainbows (September 23, 2009 11:59 am ET)
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                    You obviously can't read or can't comprehend what you do read. I never said Jones made policy.
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                    • Author by puppienrainbows (September 23, 2009 12:16 pm ET)
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                      .......could you point to where I said Van Jones made policy? Please?
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                    • Author by DellDolly (September 23, 2009 1:02 pm ET)
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                      Yeah, actually you did.

                      Glenn Beck doesn't make policy. Obama, with the advice of a self-proclaimed radical, does. That's the big difference. It should be obvious.

                      So, you said that Van Jones's advice would help Obama announce policy decisions. That means that Van Jones would make policy. But he didn't.
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                      • Author by puppienrainbows (September 23, 2009 1:41 pm ET)
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                        What a tapdance. You can't read or comprehend. Get your GED, it would help.
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                        • Author by vysotsky (September 23, 2009 5:41 pm ET)
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                          Some tapdance: the distinction between "Obama, with the advice of a self proclaimed radical [makes policy]" and "Van Jones would make policy."

                          I agree, these statements don't have equivalent meanings. But they aren't distant in implication. You really want to argue about this distinction? Or would you rather address the criticism concerning your comparison between the kind of influence Beck wields and the kind that Jones held?
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    • Author by mescal (September 23, 2009 2:02 am ET)
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      What doughboy is really saying is that Americans like humself need to be able to SMEAR without fear!

      After all, we're violating his 1st Amendment rights when we call him on his fear mongering and lies.
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    • Author by vysotsky (September 23, 2009 4:38 am ET)
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      Fear of what exactly?

      If Beck meant that people should be able to speak without fear of violent retaliation and without fear of persecution and imprisonment by the government, then yes, I fully agree. But Beck seems to have something else in mind: he apparently wants the freedom to speak without fear of anyone else speaking back.
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      • Author by open_mind (September 23, 2009 11:33 am ET)
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        That is an excellent point. I think whenever somebody talks about fear, we should look to find out what is at the core of that feeling.
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    • Author by teabaggers ♥ [wing]NUTS (September 23, 2009 5:27 am ET)
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      yes, people should be able to speak about fear, but when you are glenn beck instilling fear into people's minds the way he does, that is when it crosses the line. he just doesnt get it. he does and says all these outrageous things, but then when hes asked about it, he acts like its nothing but a regular person stating their opinion. its not all that black and white, glenn.
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    • Author by profesandry (September 23, 2009 6:28 am ET)
         
      I support Annie Leonard's movie "Story of the Stuff" ... World needs to change and people like Beck wants to stop these change.
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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (September 23, 2009 6:47 am ET)
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      Hey Glennie, you can speak all you want. I don't care if you're on street corner with a sign talking to yourself.
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    • Author by thundavolt (September 23, 2009 6:47 am ET)
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      I thought Van Jones spoke with out fear. The problem with Glenn Beck is hes so into himself and the sound of his own voice. He has said so many things just to please whatever the audience may be that he can no longer keep track.

      He has no principles except the size of the paycheck he can negotiate for. If there is a transcript database of his shows it would be embarrassing for him. You could probably put together an hour long show of him contradicting his views on a daily basis.
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    • Author by WorldViewer (September 23, 2009 10:22 am ET)
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      He seems to also think Americans should speak without thinking.
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    • Author by roninkannushi1711 (September 23, 2009 10:32 am ET)
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      Fellow Matterers,

      Glenn Beck said he did not spend much time in his day, even thinking about it. The current Fox News poster child has spoken. Yield, you are ignored! The malicious propaganda will continue. Fox News has demagogy over its growing numbers, of fear-stricken viewers. Times change, people don't.

      'My,' America is being taken away. While that is what they say, 'our,' America is evolving.

      It be it,
      Ronin Kannushi.
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