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Beck, dismissing Blackwater corruption, says "now let's talk about ACORN"

September 25, 2009 4:22 pm ET

From the September 25 edition of Premiere Radio Network's The Glenn Beck Program:

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REPORT: ACORN OBSESSION: Beck, Hannity obsess over ACORN while virtually ignoring major corruption scandals

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    • Author by snoopy (September 25, 2009 4:26 pm ET)
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      Well Col., now you know why puppies and PC refuse to comment on blackwater corruption. Beck told them to ignore it and like good little sheep they willingly ob-a-a-a-a-a-y!
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (September 25, 2009 5:33 pm ET)
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        Beck does say something true here, referring to his idiotic failure to understand what Blackwater has to do with ACORN with "This is why talk radio works, this is why Fox "news" is successful!".

        He's right, there are enough people dim enough to be fooled by low-level propaganda like Beck's that he can make some money.

        We should have got Blackwater?? Are all (any) of the allegations against them resolved? Aren't they still receiving piles of our tax dollars that dwarf ACORN's money? Are the respective offenses of Blackwater and ACORN even remotely comparable to any sane person?

        These right wing clowns have the easiest job in the world, at least an easy job for anybody lacking a functioning conscience.
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        • Author by worrierking (September 25, 2009 5:54 pm ET)
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          ACORN should just do what Blackwater has done.

          Just change your name and move on over to the next Gub'mint teat.

          I'm sure if they showed some big, scary, minority badass wearing a Blackwater uniform, Beck would be hounding them too.
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    • Author by Max Credits (September 25, 2009 4:32 pm ET)
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      Blackwater corruption does not fit into Beck's "secret" campaign to defend white culture.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (September 25, 2009 4:42 pm ET)
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      Senator Burris didn't accuse Blackwater of killing American soldiers, he accuses them, correctly, of murdering Iraqis, but since they are Muslims and Arabs, I guess their lives don't matter. Blackwater has made a lot more money off the Government than ACORN ever dreamed, and they are still making money. They have killed people and there are real charges of prostitution against them. ACORN has done a lot of good, and despite what Giles and O'Keefe are saying, they did not fund brothels or underage prostitutes (and what kind of a person makes up such an outrageous story and expects to be believed?) Had those two come up to me, I might have spun them some wild ones, too, just to keep myself form laughing in their face or to keep them talking so I could alert the police. I would never take such trash seriously. But the thing is, Blackwater and ACORN are two different things. One is a fantasy Glenn obsesses on, and the other is armed and dangerous and funded by tax dollars.
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      • Author by snoopy (September 25, 2009 4:45 pm ET)
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        what kind of a person makes up such an outrageous story and expects to be believed?


        puppies, pov and pc believe. O'Keefe certainly knows his audience!
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      • Author by rumpleteasermom (September 25, 2009 6:39 pm ET)
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        I had to go back and listen again when I read your comment. Burris didn't accuse Blackwater of anything but defrauding the government. That was an interesting Freudian slip, that. Beck made the leap from Burris's comment about fraud to the killing solders thing all by himself.

        He must have been reading up on the KBR case, where their shoddy wiring has indeed killed US soldiers - more than a dozen of them.

        Oddly enough, of the three, only ACORN with it's low level staffers who have already been fired have seen finding repercussions.

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    • Author by The New Pilgrims (September 25, 2009 4:49 pm ET)
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      Today, I asked an 8 year old child which of these is bigger:

      1 million
      500 million

      "1 million is bigger than 500 million," the child replied.

      "Good," I responded, "you're already smarter than Glenn Beck."
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    • Author by Doug-Life (September 25, 2009 4:51 pm ET)
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      We really shouldn't be mad @ Beck. I convinced he's just a puppet/prostitute. I apologize in advance to all prostitutes for that comparison.
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    • Author by ronbo (September 25, 2009 4:53 pm ET)
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      The Beckerheads don't care that US taxpayer dollars were used to pay off the family of the man Blackwater employee Andrew Moonen murdered, while wandering around drunk and armed in Iraq.

      They don't care that Blackwater faces fines for weapons violations in the millions of dollars.

      And they don't care that Halliburton subsidiary KBR's shoddy work electrocuted at least 13 American servicemen, dead for no reason. Halliburton has paid fines this year (for bribery) ten times the amount of money ACORN has received from the federal in its entire existence.

      How many people has ACORN killed? How many billions have gone to corrupt Halliburton, who continued to pay bonuses to Dick Cheney while he was serving as Vice President.
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    • Author by thename (September 25, 2009 5:01 pm ET)
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      Best part has to be Beck comparing Burris to Chavez because both "chang[ed] the subject" just before explaining "I'll give you Blackwater ... now let's talk about ACORN" is the reason "talk radio works."

      It's true. It does require immense focus to hew to your talking points, no matter what goes on around you. Kudos talk radio. Keep focusing.
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    • Author by captfoster2 (September 25, 2009 5:04 pm ET)
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      But of course Beck would rather talk about ACORN than BlackWater... excuse me... Xee

      Where Xee has actually broken laws, knowingly dished out murder for profit, assassinations, rape, conspiracy, potentially treasonous acts, torture, and various other black operations...

      ACORN is only accused of voter registration fraud. The prostitution crap I will ignore mainly because it is slowly looking as if was all a right-wing setup and not any part of an on going conspiracy...

      So I can certainly see why Beck would want to talk about ACORN... they seem to be doing more damage to America than BlackWater could ever hope to do.

      Just ask any lunatic right-winger... they'll tell ya'll about it
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    • Author by New Frontier (September 25, 2009 5:13 pm ET)
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      No blackboards for Blackwater. They're all being used for Beck's Big ACORN Investigation.
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      • Author by liberalXtian (September 25, 2009 5:26 pm ET)
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        Then he would have to show connections to Bush, Cheney, and probably the people who pay him.
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    • Author by pete592 (September 25, 2009 5:24 pm ET)
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      Glenn asks the same question that was implied in this comment thread: "What does Blackwater have to do with ACORN?"

      I think my response bears repeating here...

      Right-wing professional liars and the Republican Party have disguised their ACORN outrage to be entirely about taxpayer money.

      When we start talking about wasting taxpayer money, I don't want to talk about ACORN, I want to talk about the biggest, most egregious offenders.

      Otherwise, let's start being honest about our ACORN outrage.

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      • Author by liberalXtian (September 25, 2009 5:51 pm ET)
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        This also highlights his tenuous grip on reality. The "13 year-old prostitutes" and the "bordello" he mentioned over Sen. Burris' comments are fictitious! Mr. Beck may not be aware, or simply does not care, about the real Iraqi civilians killed and tortured by Blackwater.

        And who still uses the word "bordello"?
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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (September 25, 2009 5:56 pm ET)
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          People who avail themselves of the services of the strumpets within said bordello, I would reckon. Pip pip.

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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (September 25, 2009 6:07 pm ET)
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        Pete, if you have a chance, look at the progression of the rightys position on this issue at some of the first threads.

        When the first videos were shown, everybody (lib and con) was sort of in agreement, bad behavior by the employees, they should have been fired.

        Then some more info came out. The offices that threw the propaganda video makers out, the total number of offices they visited, the hiding of unedited tapes, and probably most importantly, pictures of the "pimp and prostitutes".

        This is when most of us had our bullsh!t detectors go off.As some of the wingnuts got further lost in the haze between fact and fiction, referring to the underage prostitutes as if they existed, other , more reality based right wingers were unable to say with a straight face that the scammers were convincing in their roles.

        So they switched gears to the "tax fraud" angle, but many are still working both stories, the prostitution and the tax advice. Neither of these went beyond the hypothetical, and it's pretty hard to believe that any of the ACORN employees thought these people were on the level.

        Fake outrage. The obvious question to all of these outraged folks is to ask them if they're consistent, if their outrage is hundreds of times as great for organizations receiving that much more money, and committing real crimes.

        Their answer to that question seems to be pretty set; What does Blackwater have to do with ACORN?

        Calling BS on themselves, and at the same time accidentally admitting to the corporate conservative control of our media.
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        • Author by Conchobhar (September 25, 2009 6:34 pm ET)
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          Well said, Colonel. By the way, we don't know how many, if any, Americans Blackwater has killed, yet. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some blood on their hands after Katrina. Even if they haven't killed any Americans yet, how long will that last?

          For those who deify the Founders many, if not most, of them were powerfully opposed to a standing army. I think it's safe to say that all of them would be appalled by the existence of a private army on U.S. soil, one dedicated to corporatism and unaccountable to the American people. I know I am.
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          • Author by John Paradox (September 25, 2009 8:23 pm ET)
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            Did a quick search on WikiQuote and found some of those comments (note especially Jefferson's comment and banking establishments)

            http://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=standing+army&go=Go
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        • Author by juliajayne1 (September 25, 2009 8:40 pm ET)
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          Well Colonel, my good man, don't you know you're to stay on topic? I mean we're talking about ACORN, not Blackwater. Sheesh. I never!

          But of course, if you're excluding the wingnuts and people who profess to either be libs or independents and really aren't, then you may have some cover. That would be the balance of sentient beings who can actually understand overarching conceptual thoughts, and have the ability to extrapolate what Blackwater and ACORN may have in common.
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    • Author by Max Credits (September 25, 2009 7:17 pm ET)
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      Actual Beck Tweet:

      Don't miss tonights tv show. The power of the 9.12 moms. Maybe the best live audience show we've don't yet.
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    • Author by overmars jr. (September 25, 2009 7:27 pm ET)
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      While it's true right wingers shamefully ignore this Blackwater story en masse, it is a complete stance. You notice how none of them ever come into any Blackwater thread to say anything. Ever. They don't even want to acknowledge it, because if they did, all of their manufactured outrage would be exposed.
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (September 25, 2009 8:05 pm ET)
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        Actually, overmars, I would say that most of them avoid the Blackwater threads. There are a handful dopey enough to actually not understand the purpose of mentioning Blackwater (or pretend not to), and a few others who think they're clever enough to pass off some false comparisons as a defense of the media ACORN frenzy.

        The topic does narrow down the wingnut ranks, though, you're right about that. ONly the stupidest and the most delusional about their own BS'ing abilities seem to be chiming in.

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        • Author by fairliberal (September 25, 2009 9:22 pm ET)
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          Actually some do venture into the Blackwater discussions, but let me ask the question, does criminal behavior by Blackwater dismiss the criminal behavior by acorn? Why are liberals so quick to give acorn a pass because "only a few low level employees are bad", while they blame Blackwater in totality. It seems pretty hypocritical to me. There have been far more acorn employees found guilty than Blackwater employees that have been indicted.

          Also another point to make is that while there are Blackwater employees who are awaiting trial for alleged crimes, the acorn crimes are today's news. We have indisputable proof of acorn's corruption, we have seen a pattern of corruption reaching across the country by acorn staffers. They seem well prepared in their advice to potential prostitutes and human sex slave smugglers. Their mission is clear to anyone with eyes and ears.

          Blackwater is only mentioned as a way to avoid the obvious criminal behavior of acorn. But no worry, they are toast. Good riddance.
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          • Author by snoopy (September 25, 2009 9:43 pm ET)
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            If by giving ACORN a pass you mean we support the firing of any employee who does something wrong but won't demand the firing and dismantling of an entire program because you can't prove corruption top down, then yeah, we're giving them a pass. But Blackwater, which obviously does have top down support is a different story. I also picked up on how you claim blackwater's crimes were "alleged" while stating ACORN's as if it were a fact. But no worries, we know y'all are hypocrites when it comes to crimes of the reich. We'll clean up your mess for you, we always do...
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            • Author by juliajayne1 (September 25, 2009 10:02 pm ET)
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              Snoopy, I really hate it when you make so much sense and make us real liberals look good. I mean it's so unseemly to not be knuckle dragging (look over there!) intellectual dimbulbs, when that's so in vogue these days. Shame on you!
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          • Author by open_mind (September 25, 2009 9:56 pm ET)
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            Actually some do venture into the Blackwater discussions, but let me ask the question, does criminal behavior by Blackwater dismiss the criminal behavior by acorn?

            Just exactly what crime are you alleging that ACORN committed here? I thought conservatives were arguing that "legal advice" isn't or cannot be criminal with regards to the OTC advice/opinions on torture? I would think that would be especially interesting seeing that the "legal advice" ACORN allegedly gave was apparently not ever taken.
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          • Author by pete592 (September 25, 2009 10:23 pm ET)
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            Why are liberals so quick to give acorn a pass because 'only a few low level employees are bad', while they blame Blackwater in totality.

            Three reasons come to mind:
            1. Unlike Blackwater employees, NO ONE from ACORN stands accused of manslaughter, attempted manslaughter, weapons charges, or gun running.
            2. Liberals feel there's a big difference between killing someone and filing a fraudulent voter registration card.
            3. the right wing is disguising its outrage over ACORN as advocacy for the American taxpayer. Here are the facts that make your facade so transparently phony:

            According to federal spending data compiled by the independent Web site FedSpending.org, however, the State Department's Blackwater contracts vastly exceed those of the Pentagon. Since 2004, State has paid Blackwater $833,673,316


            An Examiner review of federal spending data found that ACORN has received at least $53 million in federal money since 1994

            Maybe you can give us some other plausible motivation for the right wing's outrage over ACORN.

            I won't hold my breath.

            They seem well prepared in their advice to potential prostitutes and human sex slave smugglers.


            "And visits to other ACORN offices have gone almost entirely unmentioned. Lavelle Stewart, a fair-housing coordinator in the group's Los Angeles office, told me this week that she tried to get the 'prostitute,' who claimed she had been beaten by her pimp, to go to a women's center."


            That sounds like good advice to me.

            There have been far more acorn employees found guilty than Blackwater employees that have been indicted.


            Again, liberals, unlike conservatives, are not neglecting the difference between manslaughter and voter registration fraud.

            The former employees of ACORN who committed voter registration fraud were turned in BY ACORN and evidence against them was willingly volunteered BY ACORN. Liberals don't consider those to be the actions of a corrupt organization, rather, the actions of an organization that's policing itself.
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          • Author by HopeNovak (September 25, 2009 10:53 pm ET)
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            But what actual crime did they commit? No services were rendered, no papers were filed. Yes, it appears as though one or two people acted inappropriately and were fired. So where is the crime of an organization. Erik Prince was the head of Blackwater, therein lies one difference.
            All I'm sayin is if this is about tax payer money being given to organizations whose employees are charged with a crime, then why aren't you equally concerned about other organizations?
            Halliburton received $3.5 million a day and electrocuted 13 soldiers during there stay in Iraq, while ACRON received that much in a year.
            So if you're not concerned about that, then what's your real beef about Acorn?.....just wondering.
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          • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (September 25, 2009 11:22 pm ET)
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            ONly the stupidest and the most delusional about their own BS'ing abilities seem to be chiming in.


            Thanks for the backup, and for volunteering, Faillib.Let's see, Snoopy already pointed out that your "giving ACORN a pass" bit is BS.

            I don't see anybody blaming Blackwater in totality. Also BS.

            I'm not sure which ACORN employees "found guilty" you're speaking of that outnumber Blackwater employees indicted, or what offenses you're trying to compare, so I'll assume that's BS too.

            If you're attempting to say that because allegations of serious crimes(including murder and child prostitution) against military contractors haven't been pursued nearly as aggressively as voter registration fraud or shaky tax advice by ACORN, you're only supporting the idea that there is a witch hunt going on against ACORN.

            Hardly worth mentioning your "today's news" defense of Blackwater. They have been largely ignored ever since the first allegations.Do you think that excusing Blackwater because their crimes are awaiting trial, while falsely claiming ACORN has committed crimes when they haven't even been charged with anything is fooling anybody?

            Your visions of indisputable proof and patterns of corruptions are just figments fed to your impressionable mind by the media.To call sex slavery ACORN's "mission" because they heard some talk by ridiculous actors should be embarrassing even to a mindless zombie like you.

            Blackwater is mentioned to point out your hypocrisy, your ridiculous partisan hysteria and your selective outrage.

            But go ahead and defend those who it appears are participating in murder and child prostitution, if it makes you feel good. If you can soothe your guilt over this by going along with the media's smearing of another organization that receives a tiny fraction of our money compared to those contractors, and has much less credible allegations of much less serious criminal activity, I won't try to stop you.

            You're in an ever-shrinking group of right wing suckers who will defend corporations or the military, anybody who the right wing pundits tell you to support, but I think your kind are, thankfully for the country, dying out pretty quickly. Good riddance.
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          • Author by overmars jr. (September 28, 2009 1:22 pm ET)
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            Are you for real????

            Well Col., it looks like we found what you said we'd find.
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    • Author by princeofwheels (September 25, 2009 11:33 pm ET)
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      Becky, YOU opened Pandoras' box. Now watch what comes out.
      Becky, do you really thin that the Democrats are going to just let you continue with your nonsnse.
      Becky, the worm is turning..it is your turn.
      Becky, you have brought Blackwater back into the public eye..watch you black, I mean back. They were quit happy being unmentioned.
      Becky, you better start drinking again.
      Becky, you had a nice run, now RUN.
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    • Author by ProgLib (September 26, 2009 4:48 am ET)
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      so in one instance you believe that you should go after ACORN for a couple of bad apples that broke the law (not even all of ACORN)? but lets ignore Blackwater altogether, who was defrauding the american tax payers and supported the president/vice president in all of their war crimes and assassination rings? you want some more corruption? how about halliburton? KBR? that enough for you, glenn?

      by the way, you and your ilk didnt believe we should have gone after the few "bad apples" in abu gharib who tortured iraqi prisoners. no, of course not. you just said they are a few of them, and the rest are fine. so how does that not get considered in this instance?

      and you claim you have high ratings because "you can stay focused on the point"? how do you explain jumping between 10 different conspiracy theories about obama, SEIU, ACORN, Soros, etc.? exactly, you cant because you dont know what the hell you're saying? you just say it to garner some attention.

      and that argument goes the same for talk radio. you just go on the microphone, blurt out a bunch of words, you get people's attention because you're raving like a lunatic, and you get a bunch of uneducated, gullible, moronic listeners to believe your BS.
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (September 26, 2009 12:07 pm ET)
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      Becky is not the only one avoiding Blackwater's activities. The whole right-wing is. SMH!!
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    • Author by jonjstrine42 (September 27, 2009 1:42 am ET)
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      I think we glossed over an interesting point. I couldn't help but notice Beck going off about how "they don't want to talk about ACORN" and go and change the topic. Didn't Burris give a full and complete answer as to why he supported ACORN? I'm pretty sure I heard Beck and his associates mocking it. So how is it avoiding the topic if he freely and honestly talked about ACORN. Yes, he changed the topic later in the interview, but only after the questioner basically asked him the same question over again.
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    • Author by Digital Jedi (September 27, 2009 4:20 am ET)
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      "They don't want to, because they cant.

      Er, not paying attention to what someone says, is not the same as them not saying anything. Also, what's up with the MST3 approach to playing soundbites? Are you Crow or Bob?
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    • Author by DonSchenck (September 28, 2009 12:14 pm ET)
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      ... because in the Reich Wing ...

      War = good.

      Helping the poor = bad.

      And they call themselves "Christian". Sickening. Read "Grand Theft Jesus" to see their veil pulled back.
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