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Conason uses MMFA-posted statement to correct Dobbs' false claim that student Jennings counseled was 15 at the time

October 02, 2009 8:48 pm ET

From the October 2 edition of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight:

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Previously:

Following Media Matters exclusives, CNN dismantles Fox's lies about Jennings

EXCLUSIVE: Statement from former student at center of Fox-fueled Jennings controversy

EXCLUSIVE: Fox News seeks to confirm wildly inaccurate reporting that it's already aired on Jennings controversy; former student seeks Fox News correction

EXCLUSIVE: Media Matters confirms student at center of Fox fueled Jennings controversy was of legal age

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    • Author by DellDolly (October 02, 2009 9:01 pm ET)
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      No, Lou, despite your fondest dreams, this is NOT "something". You're desperately trying to make it into something, but it's not, and here's a hint - desperation is not an atractive quality! And, as is often the case, you get beat by the competition, and all you can do is throw out an attack. Media Matters is clearly not just read by 4 people, and should be read by many more people than it is, so that more people would be better informed. And you can't make any of us believe that you don't already read it, or have someone on your staff read it, every day.

      So, I bet you already knew that the kid was 16, but just couldn't make yourself admit it. And on top of that, before the kid's statement and his driver's license were posted here, you still knew that there was conflicting info about the kid's age, but you never mentioned that, you dishonest hack!
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      • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (October 03, 2009 12:58 am ET)
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        Good point Dell...

        Lou is so pathetically dishonest--well, he is a conservative--that he thought his salvation in this case was to scoff at Media Matters, "what, the other 4 people who read Media Matters...ha, ha, ha, ha...

        No Lou, you're not cute, or funny, or even remotely intelligent.

        You're pathetic. And a disgrace to yourself and your profession.
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      • Author by gg (October 03, 2009 10:44 am ET)
        5  
        Maybe Lou can accuse the kid, now a young man, of having leprosy or being an illegal alien or an illegal alien with leprosy, to keep the story ginned up.
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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (October 03, 2009 11:49 am ET)
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        No, Lou, despite your fondest dreams, this is NOT "something".(DellDolly)


        Maybe to you, or to me, it's nothing, but Louzer is in the media, and has convinced himself that if he's talking about something, it must be important, despite countless examples disproving that mindset.

        The remark about the "four people who read MM" is pretty funny. The Appeal to Popularity type of fallacy is something that all humans fall for on some level, usually subconsciously, but it really is the right wing mind that consciously and deliberately uses it as a foundation for their arguments.

        Lou Dobbs: 2 + 2 = 5

        Guest: According to Mathematics Weekly, 2 + 2 = 4

        Lou Dobbs: Millions of people watch my show. Math Weekly has a circulation of 2,000 readers. Therefore, 2 + 2 = 5.

        Pssst.... Lou.... that's not an argument.

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    • Author by princeofwheels (October 02, 2009 9:10 pm ET)
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      Luigi, those four people certainly get you to respond. Imagine when it gets to 8, then 16. Luigi you may laugh on the outside but since Fox hasn't called you yet so you better watch out.

      Will the four reads of MMFA please stand up!!!!

      Luigi, thanx for the plug..again.
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      • Author by dmhack (October 02, 2009 10:51 pm ET)
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        Turns out Loony Lou got his numbers all jumbled up when he said four people read Media Matters (he's old... give him a break).

        After the show, a producer explained that the four were actually the number of people under the age of 98 who still watch his show.

        Way to go, Gramps.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (October 02, 2009 10:00 pm ET)
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      This shouldn't even be a story. Whay are they devoting the time and effort on this? Let me see...we have an uppity, popular black President and the right wingers want to put him in his plcae by creating bogus issues out of everything associated with the man. I've seen more integrity in a puss-filled boil than in these right wing hate merchants.
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      • Author by jwcoop715110 (October 02, 2009 10:30 pm ET)
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        This is a story because it's all the scum vote has got.
        Once they get over their euphoria that the US has lost the 2016 Olympics, they're gonna wake up to the unrelenting reality that the facts just ain't doin' them any favors.

        Until Obama's polls become theirs, nobody is buyin' their act.
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      • Author by National_Insecurity (October 02, 2009 11:17 pm ET)
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        David Brooks made some interesting points on this type of sideshow in today's NYT in an opinion piece titled "Wizard of Beck".
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        • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (October 03, 2009 1:11 am ET)
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          Very interesting...

          And very frightening if you're a conservative...which I'm not.

          This great website is helping to make happen exactly what Brooks says is happening.
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        • Author by Conchobhar (October 03, 2009 10:52 am ET)
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          I stopped reading Brooks when he wrote, without irony, "pro-life,pro-war." He seems to have regained his faculties. Good catch, NI.
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        • Author by mikehuck1976 (October 03, 2009 3:07 pm ET)
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          Wow. That article is great. I think there is a lot of truth to it. Unfortunately, even those who should be most aware of this (such as McCain) still feel the need to bow at the altar of these phonies way too often. It continues to make the Republicans a niche, right-wing party of fanatics without substance.
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        • Author by fantagor (October 03, 2009 5:30 pm ET)
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          It underscores the disconnect between the dedicated Dittohead and their enthusiasm for actually taking action. All of right wing talk radio is just an endlessly unfolding spool of bit*hing. Beck is perhaps unique in mobilizing people to get up off the muffiny couch and flaunt their stupidity in a public forum. Most would rather just listen and frown and blame everything bad on liberals, bad things such as Medicare, Social Security, minimum wage, rural electrification, the FDA...

          Randy
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    • Author by captfoster2 (October 03, 2009 2:45 am ET)
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      It sounded as if Lou wanted this to be a story! He sounded rather desperate when Joe Conason told him that he figured it to be a nothing story at all for the fact that the 'kid' involved claimed aloud that Jennings was blameless...

      Then Lou look like he was about to puke his weeks paycheck when Mr. Zuckermann took Mr. Conason's side!

      Geez Lou... could ya look a little less outrageous in your desperation?
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      • Author by Conchobhar (October 03, 2009 10:53 am ET)
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        One of those Fux News "body language experts" could have had a field day with Lou. His smile looked like he was desperately trying not to fill his Depends.
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    • Author by Handsome Pete (October 03, 2009 12:44 pm ET)
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      MMFA gets more hits per day than you have viewers, Lou, but that's neither here nor there.

      What's important is they got their facts right, and Lou did not. The young man was not 15 at the time, he was 16, the age of consent then and now in his state, and thus Jennings did nothing wrong. It's a witch hunt, and if Obama is smart, he'll ignore the douchebags on the right, trying to make this an issue.
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    • Author by toombsie (October 03, 2009 2:05 pm ET)
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      Honestly CNN is no better than Fox News when they let garbage like Lou Dobbs continue unchallenged. How many lies did he propagate to his audience in this minute and 38 second clip alone? Conanson brings him facts and he is just dismissive of them with a big fat cheesy grin.
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    • Author by temphandle pappas35document (October 03, 2009 3:29 pm ET)
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      Counting me, I guess it's 5 people. Anyone else?
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    • Author by Buzzramjet (October 04, 2009 3:17 am ET)
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      I think that with Lou's contract coming soon, he's auditioning for the FoxNewsWhoreHouse.

      They would pay him probably substantially more than CNN does. And what the heck, most media talking heads would sell their mothers for a huge increase by the millions in salary.
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