Beck: "Key is being turned ... I fear a Reichstag moment, a - God forbid - another 9-11, something that will turn this machine on"
October 07, 2009 10:17 am ET
From an interview with Newsmax.TV:
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Yeah, you'd like that Glenn... wouldn't ya!!
America being attacked and a few more thousand American's dying just so you can be proven right! So you can go on spewing out even more of your slime.
I think I speak for ever rational person, not just here at MMfA, but all of America, and I'm sure of the Earth, when I say...
You son of a bitch!
You're absolutely right. I mean... This guy is advocating terrorsim so that HIS PEOPLE can take over the United States!
And there are still some whack-jobs out there who think the biggest threat to our 'country' or our 'freedom' comes from MUSLIM TERRORISTS?! Muslim terrorist were NEVER a threat to "our freedom" because they can't take away "our freedeom." Only our gov't can do that, and only the Right Wing is so inclined.
So, to borrow a phrase from the worst president of the last hundered years: YOU'RE EITHER WITH US, OR YOU'RE WITH [THE RIGHT WING] TERRORISTS.
You cannot support Beck and NOT be a traitor. Using terrorism to regain power... If that's not treason, then I don;t know what is.
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You Con's had better either marginalize these scumbags, or admit that you're in league with them and face the music. You're either AGIANST them, or you're a coward or your a traitor. There's nothing other possibility.
I am not making this up. Check for yourself. This man began a book by claiming solidarity with people who think that the deadliest and most destructive terrorist attack on U.S. soil seemed like a positive transformative experience at the time. And it was a bestseller.
Beck's entire "9/12 Project" gimmick is based on the sick premise that Americans were somehow most distilled to their essential goodness when they were most traumatized, and that the problems reappeared when the trauma faded.
so are you now saying that if another 911 happens it will be cause we let it? and want it to happen so we can the put a plan in motion to lets say over throw a solvent nation?
Sounds an awful lot like the plan that PNAC put forward, doesn't it?
"solvent nation?" Do you mean sovereign, or are you making an economics joke?
Smiles
The projection goes on.....
How can anyone defend this kind of scumbuggery?
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What a vile and pathetic excuse for both a man and for a Patriot.
To hate the President as much as these guys do is to hate the system that dared to allow him to be elected. And to hate THAT system is to hate representative democracy, the very system of government this country stands for. If they hadn't spent the last eight years calling US traitors, merely for disagreeing with the president the PROPER WAY, I'd never say it. But by any measure they've ever used...
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THEY. ARE. TRATORS.
By the way, the calm, measured tone you are going for here fools absolutely no one who is familiar with your history in broadcast media.
That "event" you fear is the one you are creating the environment for, and its assassination.
I don't know, but they're wearing white coats.
Let's see....suspending habeus corpus, allowing warrantless wiretaps of anyone in the country, adopting torture techniques, approving assassinations...
The hypocrisy is astounding.
I hope the Secret Service is paying attention.
Let me acquaint some of you with a partial list of the National Socialist's party platform.
German National Socialst Workers Party Platform
(Authored on Febuary 24, 1920 with Konrad Heiden's translation in A History of National Socialism)
1) We demand that the government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate oppurtunities for employment and earning a living. (At whose expense?)
2) The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within its confines and be good for all. ( By whose standard?)
3) We demand the nationalization of all busineese which have been amalgamated(into trusts). ( Think Wal-Mart or Microsoft)
4) We demand the that the state shall share in the profits of large industries. ( Nice!)
5) We demand that provison for the aged shall be made on a greatly increased scale. ( Forget about families, local communitites, or civil society doing this. The all-powerful state must do it!)
6) We demand a land-reform suitable to national requirements, the passing of a law for the confiscation of land for communal purposes; the aboliton of interest on mortgages, and prohibition of all speculation on land. ( Evidently, the National Socialists were as ignorant as the modern leftist about the nature of interest rates. They didn't understand that the purpose of an interest rate is to coordinate production across time either.)
7) It is the duty of the state to help raise the standard of the nation's health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the cumpolsory games and gymnastics....( The people must be led for their own good you see; they are cattle. We only act in the people's self interest. Who can be against this compulsion? The people ARE the state, afterall.)
8) We combat the materialistic spirit within and outside us, and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed in the foundation of the "common good before the individual good."
These planks are abhorrent to anyone who values individual liberty. It is an attempt to replace an organic civil society with the force of the state. This garbage is properly identified as collectivism.
Collectivism is the dominant theme among all of the fascist states of 20th century Europe. The term fascism came to be only associated with extreme nationalism, eugenics, and militarism. But most fascist states weren't preoccupied with eugenics or extreme militarism.
The fascist movement was a populist movement and this is why it was able to garner such a receptive audience in most of Europe. The term fascism wasn't used as one of opprobrium in America until the war and after. Mussolini was considered a great man throughout the teens, 20's, and early 30's by many Americans inside the "progressive" community and outside of it as well. Much of the "New Deal" was nothing more that a copy of the so-called "Italian Experiment" of the 20's and 30's. Most of America's intellectuals and "progressives" spoke glowingly of the "Italian Experiment" and the great man, Mussolini.
All of you abhorr the militarism and extreme nationalism of fascism, but you've bought into economic fascism without being aware of it.
So what, because the Nazi's were against child labor we should encourage it? If the nazi's said we should strive for the greater good, should we strive for the greater bad? I wouldn't be surprised if you're one of those people who think that because Hitler was a vegetarian, vegetarianism is EVIL. The arguments your post provides are not much more intellegent than that.
It's the totalarian actions of the government, the disrespect for human rights and the suppression of free speech that make fascism evil, not the welfare state, ok? Or perhaps you think that every other rich country is comparable to the nazis because they have universal healthcare, and are more unionized and better unemployment benefits than the United States? If you do, you are severely trivializaing the evils committed by the Nazis.
these are all examples of socialism run by government entities. if you want "individual liberty" go buy an island and live there by yourself. when you do please send me a postcard to let me know how much you love it.
Ya, I long for the days when my 8-year-old (born at the Federal Maternity Center) was free to work at the steel mill instead of being forced to do somersaults.
Fascism was and is collectivism in the raw.
Also, history has proven Jonah, and anyone else who equates fascism with liberalism dead wrong about trying to do that.
That's probably true -- but, seeing as I've never actually heard of "fascisn", that could be because you've written them all . . .
I've read ZERO books on fascism and based on your post (cut-and-pasted like a 6-year old), I believe I know more about fascism than you.
Didn't have time for any more. My son and I had to goose-step over to his mandatory You Vill Learn Ze Somersaulten class.
He starts with the National Socialist" misnomer and then executes a flying back flip into an over sized vat of wingnut froth.
It is an easily refuted load of utter nonsense that no serious historian would touch with a ten foot pole,but you go ahead and lap it all up because it'll make you feel better about supporting a subset of far rightwing nutcases that are dragging the Conservative Party down in flames faster than the Hindenburg.
Wow... when did the state nationalize Microsoft and Wal-mart??? I guess Pres. Obama owns them huh? Maybe you should read what you cut and paste before you post it. By the way, what's "busineese"?
Isn't it clear how superior Bekkky's mind is?
What's so wrong with consisteny anyway? You guys are consistently statists, afterall.
When are you going to credit your source for the C&P above?
If you have something to say, say it.
If you have something that others have said, provide the link to give that site credit.
We're not arguing that the above isn't true, but they aren't your words if you cut and paste them.
Citations will get you credit. Plagarism just makes you appear lazy.
I'll ask you the same thing I ask every wingnut who makes this accusation; how do you feel about the illegal warrantless spying, torture, politization of the Justice Department, and the unprecedented disregard for Congress's authority that took place in the previous administration?
If you do not approve of those Bush administration practices, how is the left's desire for a government which takes an active role in bettering society in any way comparable to supporting totalarianism, or "statism", as you put it?
Come on, explain yourself. Show me that your beliefs can stand up to scrutiny.....
Not everyone fits so neatly into your conservative liberal worldview. And Bush wasn't a conservative by the way, no more than amy of you are liberels in the classical sense of the word.
Now what exactly is fascistic or "statist" about liberal policies?
Are they unconstitutional? Do they violate people's rights? Or is it simply that they mean an expanded role for government in assuring a fair society where everyone has a chance to succeed? We can argue about whether they are wise policies, but it is a completely different matter to suggest that they are statist, or as you indicating earlier fascist. So, what is pernicious about liberal policies? Are they fascist, do they just lead in that direction?
Just curious......
The new wingnut meme . . .
While Bush was is office: "He embodies OUR values!! He's the greatest!!"
Now that Bush is out of office: "Eh, he WASN'T a conservative, anyway . . ."
Not very "consisteny," is it? ;~)
And, because of that, the wingnuts are running away from Bush so fast, they're practically leaving skid marks . . .
Bugaboo?
I don't think so.
And now my shirt has a coffee Rorschach on it. Grazzi.
Go back to sleep, Glenn -- it's just the orderlies locking the door to your padded cell.
THEY SPELLED HIS DAMNED NAME WRONG ON THE GRAPHIC.
I'm pretty far to the left, but even I know there's two "N's" in "Glenn".
All the proof you need that the right wing is entirely and utterly clueless...they can't even elevate their heroes correctly!