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Dobbs on Chicago violence: Black community needs to "fix the problem" and "quit whining"

October 08, 2009 5:05 pm ET

From the October 8 edition of United Stations Radio Network's The Lou Dobbs Show:

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DOBBS: Here's Phillip Jackson of the Black Star Project, the Chicago-based educational reform organization, who isn't too happy with Mr. Obama.

JACKSON [audio clip]: They have asked us to be vigilant, diligent, and persistent when it comes to the education and social welfare of our children. Again I say: Here we are. They have told us time and time again that we are responsible for our children and that we are the ones responsible for the current situation and for the violence. They have told us that. If that is so, why are we here and they are somewhere else?

DOBBS: Wrong, Mr. Jackson. No, that's -- you got the wrong questions, partner. Why in the world are you failing your children? Why in the world aren't the people of Chicago up in arms to stop this? Why isn't the black community in South Chicago stopping this? Why aren't you stopping the culture that would prevent young men and women going to high school scared to death because they live in a culture that says you do not, you do not tell the police who is harming their friends, their neighbors, their family?

What are you doing, Mr. Jackson? And who are you to give us a speech on, "Why are you there and we're here?" Mr. Jackson, you are part of the problem. Now you've got to decide if you're going to be part of the solution and quit whining about where Arne Duncan and Eric Holder are, because, partner, they're going to leave town. They live in Washington now. And you better understand that's your town, it's your community, it's your people. You better take care of them. And it's time to quit looking for excuses and start doing something.

You know, I've had a belly full of Eric Holder, the attorney general. He says, you know, that we are essentially a nation of cowards when it comes to race. Well, let me tell you, he's essentially a coward when it comes to confronting reality and dealing with the issue. If he had any guts, he'd stand up and say, instead of that, "This is not a black problem, this isn't a Chicago problem" -- Holder, partner, you're the attorney general. You're in Chicago because that's where the problem is. It is a Chicago problem. It is a black community problem. And part of the problem is the black community is not being responsible, and I mean turning heaven and earth to protect our children. Our children. They're our future. And we have just witnessed a 16-year-old honor student be beaten to death in the streets of Chicago.

I don't want to hear your excuses. I don't want to hear your lame nonsense about how much money you need to save the next life. You have it in your power -- the black churches, the black school leaders, the black community leaders, the black community organizers, the black parents of that community. Fix the problem. Quit whining, quit looking to someone else for the solution, and by God, let's move ahead.

And yes, you deserve the help of Eric Holder, the attorney general, and Arne Duncan. Arne Duncan, the education secretary who was your head of education in Chicago. This is his failure as well. But if you don't stand up, no one else will.

I've got a lot to say to Mr. Jackson. You are certainly part of the problem. You're not part of the solution, and until you, as a community activist, understand that this has happened on your watch without seemingly protest or result, you are the problem. It is time for you to become part of the solution, and quit whining about President Obama, for God's sake.

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    • Author by eilu59 (October 08, 2009 5:14 pm ET)
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      How can he in one breath talk about how it is "the black communities" problem and "they need to fix it" and in the next breath talk about "our children" (like he would really think of any child that is not white is his). Maybe Mr. Dobbs would like to go to Chicago and help them fix the problem. Somehow I don't think "Partner" Lou Dobbs would be caught on the south side of Chicago if his life depended on it.
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    • Author by The_Cat (October 08, 2009 5:20 pm ET)
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      "...and quit whining about President Obama, for god's sake." Very well put, Lou. Say, can you take YOUR OWN ADVICE?!

      You do a lot of finger pointing, you make a lot of noise, but do you actually have a solution to propose? Because I didn't hear one.
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      • Author by patrioticKate (October 08, 2009 8:19 pm ET)
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        The problem with the African American Family unit is that it is basically only a mother and children. Don't go getting all upset--that is the TRUTH!!! America hasn't abandoned the inner city children as the liberals say. These inner -city kids are abandoned by their own fathers usually before they even come into the world. They really do not want the responsibility!!! Chicago is no exception!!! Then these kids have kids at a very young age and abandon them---it's a vicious cycle that nobody wants to work on. Maybe that honor student would still be alive if a decent person tried to help him!! Apparently in that entire crowd of students there was not one decent person!! It all starts in the home, liberals!!! Stop Blaming Everyone Else!!!!
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        • Author by Brabantio (October 09, 2009 11:59 am ET)
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          Do you think that this stems from race or from poverty?
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          • Author by patrioticKate (October 09, 2009 7:29 pm ET)
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            Did these Chicago kids beat each other up because they are Poor? Do these kids quit school and talk back to teachers because they are Poor? Do you think these kids killed that Honor Student because they were poor? The liberals want to say that these kids do this because they are POOR!!!! These kids are BAD KIDS!!!Because they CHOOSE to be bad kids. !! These kids are unsupervised animals!! It's not because they are POOR. It's because they don't give a damn!!!
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    • Author by thundavolt (October 08, 2009 5:24 pm ET)
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      Dobbs is 97% right on this. I was so annoyed that the NAACP are trying to defend a judge who was sexually assaulting inmates and abusing power and not doing a lot more about this kid. This applies to everyone. Stop blaming "them" and start looking at yourself. Clean up from inside.
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      • Author by Max Credits (October 08, 2009 5:30 pm ET)
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        Dobbs is 100% white on this. And he's whining.
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      • Author by Barry Bonds (October 08, 2009 5:38 pm ET)
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        What do you suggest?
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        • Author by Barry Bonds (October 08, 2009 5:47 pm ET)
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          I got a "thumbs down" for asking for someone to suggest a cure for the youth violence?
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          • Author by IRONY 101 (October 08, 2009 6:23 pm ET)
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            Tough crowd...
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          • Author by snoopy (October 08, 2009 7:55 pm ET)
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            He was mad at you because he didn't have a solution, just criticism.
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          • Author by patrioticKate (October 09, 2009 7:33 pm ET)
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            Maybe the cure starts with the African American fathers!!! Maybe they could start giving a Damn about their kids, how about sticking around long enough to instill some values and morals into there kids!!! Maybe they could stick around long enough to raise their children properly! Maybe that Honor student would still be alive!!
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      • Author by magnolialover (October 08, 2009 6:44 pm ET)
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        Except that, the NAACP in this case, are not defending Thomas outright, but they are saying that they're going to watch the case, and make sure that his Constitutional rights are ensured. I'm not so sure what is so bad about that, do you? Also, he has not been convicted yet, he has been charged, and don't we have a presumption of innocence until proven guilty and all?

        I will say, it does sound like he's going down, and if he did what it is said he did, he should be tossed into the clink. Break the law, go to jail.
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        • Author by thundavolt (October 09, 2009 5:13 am ET)
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          My point is they made it a point that they were watching. They can watch quietly. They need to speak up about this not just wait for discrimination. I'm black by the way and I'm fed up with the way really dumb people always complain like they have ever tried to be smart. I know there are many injustices in this world along race lines and I have experienced quite a few serious ones that could have landed me in serious legal trouble. I just think the biggest injustice of all is to not fix problems at home. If they need things put in place to help with this they should fight for that.

          I laugh at all black folks who think Obama is going to change their lives. They need to change their lives because of Obama. This is the same with all these countries that are ruled by dictators. they really thought after the invasion of Iraq the USA would save them. People just need inspiration to get rid of the dirty. After that they can fight the real race battles because they still exist. That's if they haven't killed each other off first.
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    • Author by Barry Bonds (October 08, 2009 5:36 pm ET)
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      I don't understand these minorities. When will they learn that the majority has no influence on their lives? When will they figure out that every man is an island an every community is separate without one having any influence on the other. Sure the majority is reponsible for what the miniority takes home but it is the minority that has to make due with what the majority gives them.

      Why would you look towards washington to encourage graduation? Encourage good behavior? Don't they know that the t.v. and movies have no influence on kids and the government has no control over what is on t.v. or the movies? Don't they know that government doesn't destroy families and don't have anything to do with the condition of schools and the curriculum?
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (October 08, 2009 5:43 pm ET)
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        I don't understand these minorities.
        You could have stopped right there. You are a bigot and a fool.
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        • Author by Barry Bonds (October 08, 2009 5:46 pm ET)
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          I was being sarcastic. If you read me entire post you might have picked it up or I wasn't clear enough.
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        • Author by Pinhead (October 08, 2009 5:47 pm ET)
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          Satire, my friend.
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          • Author by magnolialover (October 08, 2009 6:21 pm ET)
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            Hard to tell sometimes, as we've had plenty of posters on here who would say what he did, except actually mean it.
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            • Author by IRONY 101 (October 08, 2009 6:25 pm ET)
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              Yea, and I expecially hate it when people are sarcastic...
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            • Author by Brabantio (October 08, 2009 7:55 pm ET)
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              Two things:

              1) The post suggests sarcasm. It's wiser to ask if someone is serious than to declare them a bigot.

              2) For as much time as ETRW posts here, he should probably know the handle "Barry Bonds" and the general nature of his posts. Barry isn't a newbie.
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    • Author by smarshall1432997 (October 08, 2009 6:01 pm ET)
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      Lou did "NOT" give a solution either about the problem in Chicago, and he should follow his own advice and stop his whining about Mr. Jackson and Others. Only in America can people be paid millions of dollars to push confusion and division every single day just to help their political party (Republicans) re-gain power. And, Lou's listeners just eat this non-sense up day after day as if it's really being spoken for the first time. LOL
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    • Author by jmariemo (October 08, 2009 6:12 pm ET)
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      The police are paid off in Southside Chicago. Who are they to turn to exactly, Dobbs?
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    • Author by New Frontier (October 08, 2009 6:20 pm ET)
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      Dobbs: Mr. Jackson, quit whining about President Obama!!---who, by the way, still hasn't shown us his birth certificate!! Why oh why doesn't Obama just produce the birth certificate?!?!?
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    • Author by soze169880 (October 08, 2009 6:28 pm ET)
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      Hey, I can do it too! The Italian-American community should just man up and take down the so-called "Mafia" without whining to the FBI!
      Cancer patients should just remove their own tumors with barbecue tongs instead of whining to the gummint about "research"!
      And, on a serious note, Lou Dobbs should stop whining in general because no one gives a good fiddler's fart.
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    • Author by pilotx (October 08, 2009 8:50 pm ET)
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      Like most people who know NOTHING about Chicago but always seem to have an opinion (Malkin, Hannity, O'Reilly) Mr. Jackson and the Black Star Project have worked tirelessly to promote education and personal responsibility among Chicago's youth. He should be upset that he was excluded from a meeting about solutions to the problem of youth violence in Chicago. Mr. Dobbs should do some homework before spouting off on topics he doesn't know about or understand. Hell, at least Google Black Star Project and spend five minutes reading Lou. Or if you have a better solution.
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      • Author by patrioticKate (October 10, 2009 2:20 pm ET)
           
        I think Mr. Jackson is failing at his job!!! Maybe you've forgotten about the Black Honor Student KILLED while black students filmed it!! Mr. Jackson must be in the teachers Union to have kept his job after that!!!
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (October 08, 2009 9:04 pm ET)
         
      I guess to Dobby only Chicago has crime and no where else. What a retard!
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    • Author by k1dork (October 08, 2009 9:46 pm ET)
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      Sorry Media Matters, but I'm black, and I have to agree with Dobbs on this. I mean, he makes a good point.

      Bill Cosby has said pretty much the EXACT same things as Dobbs!

      The black community can't rely on Holder, Obama, or anyone else to solve problems in our community. Sure, it would help, but ultimately we need to take responsibility for what has become of our culture.
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    • Author by k1dork (October 08, 2009 9:46 pm ET)
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      Sorry Media Matters, but I'm black, and I have to agree with Dobbs on this. I mean, he makes a good point.

      Bill Cosby has said pretty much the EXACT same things as Dobbs!

      The black community can't rely on Holder, Obama, or anyone else to solve problems in our community. Sure, it would help, but ultimately we need to take responsibility for what has become of our culture.
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      • Author by vysotsky (October 09, 2009 7:15 am ET)
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        You're welcome to your opinion, but how is this not a case of blaming the victim -- or worse yet, blaming the victim for refusing to be victimized? I was under the silly impression that it was actually America's responsibility to live up to its obligations to provide basic things like a quality public education, and that failing to do so was America's problem and not just the problem of the victimized community.

        But more to the point, Dobbs seems to be criticizing Philip Jackson for trying to do exactly what Dobbs thinks he should be doing: organizing people and trying to solve the education gap beginning at the community level by involving parents and families. So if Jackson and others take no action, they're blamed for poverty and poor schools; and when Jackson and others do take action, they're told to shut up about their problems and stop complaining.
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    • Author by Don Quixote (October 08, 2009 11:41 pm ET)
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      Dobbs, Hannity, Limbaugh, etc., are all now just trying to out-Beck Beck. It's a whack the czar competition. Kinda fun to watch.
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