Beck compares Fox News to Jews during Holocaust, other news organizations to silent bystanders
From the October 13 edition of Premiere Radio Network's The Glenn Beck Program:
BECK: When they're done with Fox, and you decide to speak out on something. The old, "first they came for the Jews, and I wasn't Jewish." When you have a question, and you believe that something should be asked, they're a -- totally fine with you right now; they have no problem with you.
When they're done with Fox and talk radio, do you really think they're going to leave you alone if you want to ask a tough question? Do you really think that a man who has never had to stand against tough questions and has as much power as he does -- do you really believe after he takes out the number one news network, do you really think that this man is then not going to turn on you? That you and your little organization is going to cause him any hesitation at all not to take you out?
If you believe that, you should open up a history book, because you've missed the point of many brutal dictators. You missed the point on how they always start.
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Shut UP, Beck! Just shut UP!
Freedom of speech and all that . .
Beck is the drunk at the end of a train filled with about 100 'normal people!! Does anyone listen to the drunk except other drunks?
He should get an Oscar for his acting. Ooooops, I forgot he is an alcoholic and a drug addict.
Hello, my name is Glen Beck and I'm an 'alcoholic' and a 'drug addict'!
Now brace yourself for the right wing pc police to swoop in and try to shut you down, and your freedom of speech, because you disagree with Beck.
He's a lying gasbag who appeals to idiots like you. Nice guy you're supporting there. Unbelievable.
(Unless you are being sarcastic, but I am sorry if I can't tell when there are people surrounding you saying similar things seriously, without citing any facts)
If Pastor Martin Neimiller would have acted when they cam for the first group, maybe he would have to worry.
What is wrong with asking Beck to shut up!!!! Because Beck uses the First Amendment to hide behind doesn't mean that he owns it in this discussion.
I'm not coming for Beck but hope he gets SHUT DOWN. Using the Holocaust is one of the last resorts of a scoundrel.
SHUT UP BECK...and collect your check.
I don't want people fired, I want answers. I have questions about our government too, though I am no truther, 9/11 included. I just want to know why Obama hired him, what he knew, why Jones said these things... what I don't want people being fired midnight on a holiday weekend right when the Sunday papers have already gone to press. That answers nothing.
Indirect responsibility.
He's not reciting "the first line of a famous quote about persecution": Beck completely butchered the first line of a famous poem about persecution, and in doing so, 1) totally missed and perverted the poem's message, 2) cast his opponents as Nazis, and 3) utterly trivialized the real horrors of Nazi Germany and actual totalitarian regimes all at once.
First they came for the radio blowhards; I was not a blowhard, so I said nothing.
Then they came for TV gasbags; I was not a gasbag, so I said nothing.
Then they came for the idiot pundits; I was not a pundit, so I said nothing.
Then they came internet liars; I was not a liar, so I said nothing.
Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for the tin-foil hat wearing idiots.
Say what you will about the MSM, but they never promoted left wing rallies, and they always report both sides of a story. MSNBC may lean left, but notice that KO is on the little cable channel, separated from NBC News. Fox coculd do the dame, but it doesn't do enough real news to fill a30 minute show, let alone a 24 hour network.
FOX Propaganda is not the number one news network, Glenn. Nice try, though.
Oh, and when you can show me boxcars full of FOX employees being taken to gas chambers, then and only then will you be able to legitimately compare FOX to German Jews during World War II. Not that legitimacy is a great concern of yours, as evidenced by your daily disregard of simple fact. You truly have no shame, sir, and are beneath contempt.
I guess you mean personal questions, like his birth, his friends and family, people and organizaations he has associated himself with, his career, his ideaology, and his agenda. Nope, never askead any of those tough questions either.
You're doing a great job, Glenn. Keep it up.
See I know you have never read a history book. and 90% of Americans understand just how brutal dictators take over. and thats why we all know not to believe a efing word out of your rush jolly hole.
but thanks for trying to play along with US real Americans.
What you posted above is ridiculous and false.
Defending Beck's offensive statement gives me a clue as to your intelligence and your humanity and neither are very good.
as you are already having delusional thoughts.
As soon the administration figures out what the next crisis will be or how to engineer one, the crackdown will begin...and you, puppierainbows, will learn to choose your words more carefully when talking about what's going on in this country.
Piddle along ma'am.
you mean the small, loud minority that voted for obama and gave the democrats the elections in 06 and 08?
my god, how do you people feed yourselves, you are so stupid
Btw, puppy, this is hilarious stuff coming from a torture supporter. And yet Obama and the liberals are Hitler? I guess that makes sense if you think the worst thing Hitler ever did was raise taxes....
Then they came for the bed-wetting haters like Limbaugh and Savage.
After that they came for the complete whack jobs like Morris and Beck.
And then there was nobody left but journalists who actually care about the Truth.
And let's not forget how Beck recently co-opted a Jewish holiday for his own prayer-and-fasting festival.
Is there anything at all this "man" won't sink to?
So I say let the guy speak, he will bury himself sooner or later, and claim victimhood.
Glenn Beck thinks fact checking is unfair, and so he feels like a Jew in the Holocaust? Give me a break. Glenn Beck is more like the Nazis then anything else. He is the one spreading lies and hate about people in the administration and in general.
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Fox News' propaganda is not just on their opinion shows, it's also reflected (as noted by Anita Dunn )in their choice of stories. But what I see most often are just snide, juvenile comments made either while introducing a story or responding after it's been shown. Eye rolling and smirking have no place on a news broadcast.
As for Beck and his audience, all I can think of are things like Waco, Jonestown, or closer to where I grew up, MOVE in Philadelphia. In those cases charismatic leaders had people hanging on their every word for guidance lived to be told what to think. Inherent in them was a doctrine of inevitable confrontation with the larger society, because that society is evil, doesn't understand us, needs to silence us, etc etc. Beck and his "followers" are a nothing more than a cult.
As for the WH taking on Fox News? I can see the temptation, but better to stay above the fray and simply ignore them, avoid guest spots, etc. They are their own worst enemy, and as Beck demonstrates here, they'll self destruct eventually.
Soon all of those on the right who were "outraged" when Rep. Alan Grayson used the word "Holocaust" to describe the (lack of a )Republican health care reform position, will be nipping at Beck's heels demanding he apologize for his use of the same word to describe himself as a victim.
I was stuck in traffic on Powelton Avenue, with my wife and kids in the car, the day the original Move stand off took place in the late seventies. We were on our way to the Zoo and I thought nothing of being stuck in traffic, until my son asked why there was a guy with a gun in his hands on the lawn next to us.
We were actually between the police and the Move members but they cleared us out quick.
He's been off and running with it ever since.
So now if Beck really wants to adopt this historical metaphor, where does that place him?
ok, dictators usually want to control the media first so what would fox have to worry about? there's no "news" there.
Does Glenn Beck compeletely forget the 8 years when George Bush was President? Doesnt he remember what they did? Ashcroft saying "people need to be careful what they say"? The "embedding" of journalists? JEFF GANNON???
So Obama is a "brutal dictator" who is going to what.. throw all of Fox News in a concentration camp?
Glenn Beck is Alex Jones 2.0
Most people who are not at Fox news and are working diligently to support honest and fair discussion of current events would probably agree that Fox news is no news organization but rather a propaganda machine.
It's strange that Beck says he knows some sincere journalists at CNN, but he did not say that he knows sincere journalists at Fox news. He is apparently unaware that if Fox news treated current events as news that there would be no problem whatsoever with what they say. A respectable and respectful conservative organization can add greatly to the public debate of issues. What are the people at Fox news going to do about this particular comparison of Beck's?
Fox news has been attacking the current government from the day Obama became president. Then when government personnel mention the lies and distortions, Fox news is now the victim. To quote Barney Frank, "On what planet do you spend most of your time?" And all this from a guy who looks like either a Nazi or a doorman on his book.
Glenn, "Does Kevin Jennings support the group NAMBLA?" is not a tough question. It's a hateful and moronic one.
He truly believes that Obama is a brutal dictator. Has he ever stated that before?
Beck's rhetoric has shown him to be a hateful, nasty, uneducated, fear-mongering, useless little man.
He did compare Fox News to the Jews during the Holocaust, but not to the suffering they endured (which would obviously be hideously inappropriate), and it wasn't the primary parallel he drew.
He compared the way that in which the Nazis sought out minority groups that disagreed with them with the way that the liberal media allegedly hunts conservatives one by one, turning them against each other (note I said allegedly).
I do think it was a dumb thing to say, but it wasn't like he said "Fox News suffering under liberal extremism is like the Jews suffering under the Nazis".
Beck's show makes Gerry Springer's show look like reasonable by comparison.
Beck makes George W. Bush look intelligent by comparison.
Beck makes his defenders look stupid by association.
We would do well to understand the ease with which Beck can persuade know-nothings to believe themselves victims.
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Actually Glenn Beck is wrong, most dictatorships started with the exceptionally well organized propaganda of talented semi-charismatic demagogues and their uquie ability to lure the lesser educated and over-worked mass into believing they are on their sides and for their 'truth'. Beck has all that a good demagogue needs; the correct kind of psychosis including Napoleon-complex even maybe;
emotionally unstable - what gives him the child-like ability to be trusted easier and he can cry at will like a rotten child to get his way.
And his hypnotic timbre of a preacher that puts you to sleep while entertaining you, that everything sounds good after sometimes when you have been lured into the schemes of
"because they are after us for crossing all legal borders of news format, you better stand by me or they will come after you too when you only make a move".
Glenn Beck could also have said: 'I killed someone and all you media guys better protect my fat psychotic ass or they will do the same to you when you kill someone.'
Unfortunately the way he said it, could make too perfect sense for the listening mass.
I would think a high number of lawsuits (1000 - x Millions) against him and Fox news could work if nothing else should.
But on the other side so was unfortunately Josef Goebbels.
It might be more than just time to enforce the FCC regulations in relations to abuse and twisting of facts in public (to the public) media?
http://mediamatters.org/research/200806120010#341553
http://mediamatters.org/research/200704250008?threaded=1#139507
http://mediamatters.org/research/200509080025#269787
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It's not hypocrisy to hold professionals to professional standards and to hold non-professionals to a lesser standard.
The truth is that Fox News and Beck's transparent lies and distortions in particular are more like the Goebbel's propaganda machine than anything the Democrats could possibly dream up. The idea that these paranoid nationalist white people (a good definition of fascism, by the way) are somehow being discriminated against is just nuts. The Nazis undermined a weak and fragmented democracy by using outrageous lies and fear of the Jews and then swooped in and picked up the pieces. The truth is that Beck and his ilk are now in the minority,sorry about that O brownshirted one, and they can't stand it. But that's how democracy works. Or, is that the real problem here -- democracy? Didn't Hitler come to power with only 30% of the popular vote?
From Beck's May 15th 2009 show on Fox (my own emphasis added):
I have no idea whether Beck means what he says, says what he means, or even thinks. I can only judge what he says, and what he's said on multiple occasions is an ugly distortion of Pastor Niemoller's poem and its historical context. Beck compared a genocidal, systematic slaughter of Jews in Nazi Germany to bailing out banks. Now Beck is comparing simple criticism against him to the horrors of the Holocaust. And yet you think his critics are less informed about history than Beck?
I welcome your response.