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Corsi: "Obama is post-American," "he puts down American exceptionalism"

October 13, 2009 10:54 pm ET

From the October 13 edition of Fox News' Hannity:

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    • Author by soze169880 (October 13, 2009 11:04 pm ET)
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      Jerry, how do I put this delicately? YOU MAKE PUTTING DOWN AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM REALLY EASY.
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    • Author by captfoster2 (October 13, 2009 11:39 pm ET)
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      And so he should!

      American exceptionalism is a fantasy for scared small-minded boys and girls who actually think that patriotism is blindly assuming your country is perfect and can do no wrong!

      Mr. Corsi... your an idiot!! And your books all suck!

      As if the circus performer who's show your on gives you any credibility for you speaking your stupid... whatever
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      • Author by robyn20094113 (October 13, 2009 11:56 pm ET)
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        Hannity seems to think America gets more respect by being an arrogant bully. As if the rest of the world will not notice our mistakes if we do not own up to them or god forbid apologize for them. He would rather America make a bigger fool of itself by making lame excuses or flat out denying it has ever made mistakes. Like the way he lives his own life.
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      • Author by jjamele2880 (October 14, 2009 6:37 am ET)
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        Damn right. I cringe whenever I hear any politician- and liberals do it as often as conservatives- bleat "the American worker is the most productive, hardest-working in the world" or "America has the best health care in the world" or "Americans are the most generous people in the world" etc. etc. as if there is something magical in our DNA that just makes us the best at everything, and that this is self-evident to everyone except the America-haters out there. It's a juvenile defensiveness that we really ought to be ashamed of and the ultimate in pandering. If we want to be the Best At Something, let's get to work at investing in education and infrastructure and health care, and stop just assuming we are SuperAmazingSuperior Just Because We Are, and Shut Up if You Can't See It.
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        • Author by midcinmann (October 14, 2009 12:47 pm ET)
             
          I agree with your point, however, I think it might be helpful to tell a group of people they're the best so they'll prove it.
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      • Author by tbone (October 14, 2009 7:20 am ET)
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        American exceptionalism is not a fantasy. Our nation, founded on the notion of trilateral equal branches and individual liberty, rose to be the most powerful nation in the world in a faster timeframe than any system of government ever constituted before.

        With that said, it is vital that we not lose ourselves in some faux patriotism nor rest on our laurels. The era of the US as global hegemon should appropriately wind down. Our role as a world leader however can and should be maintained for many generations to come. What this will require is the application of reason along with the wisdom to:

        1) Match deeds to words, for ourselves, for our allies and our enemies,
        2) Foster and promote human rights, human dignity, and individual liberty in all nations, and
        3) Reform our energy, environmental, and economic policies to support more sustainable development.

        Jerome Corsi isn't about any of the above. He's a two-bit hack selling really bad books to neophytes who can't except that a black man is their President.
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        • Author by Cheney2012 (October 14, 2009 7:29 am ET)
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          "Jerome Corsi isn't about any of the above. He's a two-bit hack selling really bad books to neophytes who can't except that a black man is their President. "

          He probably knows the proper usage of 'except' and 'accept', however.
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          • Author by soze169880 (October 14, 2009 8:33 am ET)
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            Well, then, I guess everything he says is valid. Interesting that someone who worships Cheney would support a man who thinks he orchestrated 9/11.
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          • Author by Conchobhar (October 14, 2009 9:08 am ET)
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            Does he know not to use "however," at the end of a sentence?
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          • Author by nerzog (October 14, 2009 10:16 am ET)
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            He probably knows the proper usage of 'except' and 'accept', however.


            He may, indeed. That does not, however, mitigate his two-bit hackness.
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          • Author by bintx (October 14, 2009 10:35 am ET)
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            If you're going to criticize another's grammar, you'd better make darned sure that your own is pristine.

            Fail.
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            • Author by puppienrainbows (October 14, 2009 11:40 am ET)
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              You have got to be kidding, bintx. Us 'cons' ALWAYS have our grammar and spelling scrutinized by 'sloppy' liberals. You have got a lot of nerve tongue lashing someone for pointing out a grammatical error. You have to be one of the BIGGEST chickensh*ts on this website.
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              • Author by bintx (October 14, 2009 11:44 am ET)
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                No, I'm not . . . you have that prize all wrapped up.

                You aren't a "con," so I'm not sure what you are complaining about. You are simply a Fox news, hate talk radio junkie. Nothing conservative about you in the least.
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              • Author by DellDolly (October 14, 2009 12:11 pm ET)
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                ALWAYS? Really? That's nonsense.

                The poster whose incorrect usage of a word (a common error, btw) was pointed out made a valid point that wasn't addressed at all - the only thing in the reply was about a grammatical mistake. If other people do that same thing under the same circumstance (you make a valid point and the reply only highlights a grammatical error), then the person who did that to you was wrong. But it doesn't "ALWAYS" happen. That's nonsense, and you know it.

                Two wrongs still don't make a right. It's wrong to pick on someone's grammar in a substantive post. If someone has done that to you in the past, it was wrong then too.

                So, I will wait until you admit that it was wrong for the poster Cheney to do what he did. I won't hold my breath for your acknowledgement of reality.
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                • Author by congero6189599 (October 14, 2009 12:45 pm ET)
                     
                  As a frequent offender of grammatical errors I agree with whole heartedly. :-)
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          • Author by tbone (October 14, 2009 2:40 pm ET)
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            You've got me their, they're, there. Must have been my American Acceptualism.
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        • Author by congero6189599 (October 14, 2009 11:53 am ET)
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          American exceptionalism is not a fantasy. Our nation, founded on the notion of trilateral equal branches and individual liberty, rose to be the most powerful nation in the world in a faster timeframe than any system of government ever constituted before.----tbone

          The premise of your argument is flawed. The united States rose to the front of the world after WWII,the reason had little to do with American Exceptionalism and more to do with our indusrty and productive power being intact while much of Europe and the USSR lay in ruins. We had the productive capacity and the world was our market. The hegemony of US capitalism over the world market and the profits generated allowed for liberal policies such as the GI Bill and the creation of a large middle class and the growth of trade unionism. American exceptionalism was the reason used to explain our colonization of different parts of the world and the profits generated were used in part to bribe a certain section of the working class(high wages-unionization)to go along or at least be apathetic to what was taking place.

          As is so evident the conditions and the world is/has changed. Our hegemony is being seriously challenged and the bribery of the working class is no more, as the last 3 decades has seen an outright assualt on the living standards and working conditions of labor, and now internationally we don't know as the line in one of my favorite Gil-Scott_Heron song goes "whether to act like Bob Dylan or Matt Dillan..." No I t-bone while I admire our ingenuity and resourcefulness there is no way we can continue to cling to a philosophy that allows our 5% to consume over 25% of the world resources. It is destructive for us and the world to spend roughly 10x more than the combined expenditures of all the world on defence. We the world cannot survive the stangle hold finance and industry have over our government. American exceptionalism rationalizes this situation.
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (October 14, 2009 12:42 am ET)
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      I tried to listen to this highly educated idiot but could not stomach the choreography with Hannity.It was like " Love Story " except for the participants.
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    • Author by mjh (October 14, 2009 2:13 am ET)
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      Why is anybody paying attention to this ALREADY DISCREDITED idiot??

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      • Author by Sharpe (October 14, 2009 4:31 am ET)
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        Seriously, is he going to come out with a book bashing the democratic candidate every single election year? You would think it would get pretty transparent that his politically charged motives supersede his ability to tell the truth.
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    • Author by nerzog (October 14, 2009 9:05 am ET)
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      There's no question that the notion of "American Exceptionalism" has some basis in fact; we are, indeed, a great nation. We dominated the Twentieth Century economically and militarily. While our military dominance will likely continue well into the new century, our perch atop the world of economics appears precarious at best.

      The problem with Jingofascist Troglodytes like Hannity and Corsi is that their Black and White cognitive process cannot discern the difference between confidence and arrogance, or between respect and fear.

      Whom do you respect more... the bully who can beat you up and makes sure that you know it... or the guy who can effortlessly beat the crap out of you, yet treats you as an equal?
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    • Author by RavenRog (October 14, 2009 9:23 am ET)
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      Corsi is right about Obama being an apologist and not promoting American exceptionalism and values. Obama is no different than Carter and Clinton: presidents who bash America outside our borders. All for international acceptance. That was, is, and will always be un-American. Period.
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      • Author by mjh (October 14, 2009 10:38 am ET)
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        You're correct, Raven . . .

        Obama did apologize -- but, as the right wing still hasn't caught onto, he was apologizing for his PREDECESSOR.

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      • Author by bintx (October 14, 2009 10:38 am ET)
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        No, he's not. You are listening to truncated/spliced videos/audios. Hannity has been called out on his use of these videos which take statements like "Some people would tell you that America is responsible for all of the troubles over the past ten years, but I say they are wrong," and turn it into a video that says, "America is responsible for all of the troubles over the past ten years." He leads in with the question: "Did Obama really say that America is responsible for all the troubles over the past ten years? You decide!" Roll the phony videotape.

        Nothing Obama has done has been "un-American," but you'll never believe it.
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      • Author by nerzog (October 14, 2009 10:46 am ET)
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        Corsi's full of crap, and so are you.
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      • Author by robyn20094113 (October 15, 2009 12:25 am ET)
           
        Raven, please give one example of President Obama bashing America. It is not President Obama's style to bash anyone or any country, that seems to be what you really hate about him. His diplomatic manners are a complete contrast to the conservatives and republicans. Why do you think we should force [b]our[ values on the rest of the world? You do not want them to "promote" their values on us.
        Please explain how gaining international acceptance for America, is un-American.
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    • Author by revbrown (October 14, 2009 10:57 am ET)
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      The issue with American Exceptionalism is not about the system of government or world dominance or military might. At the core of American Exceptionalism is the belief that this country is ordained by God to be exceptional and therefore the rules for the rest of the world don't apply here (hence the word "exceptional"). It is this notion of exceptionalism that is coming to an end (and make people like Corsi go bonkers).
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    • Author by Rimmer (October 14, 2009 11:27 am ET)
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      I don't really get what these clowns even mean by American Exceptionalism?
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    • Author by manofmystique (October 14, 2009 12:25 pm ET)
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      Is it any surprise a man (Corsi) shown to be a liar is feathered on [Klan]nity's America?
      In fact, it is only fitting since Sean is one of the greatest liars in Broadcasting.
      Fox News is on a mission to legitimize lying and liars. Corsi is a man who claims to know Obama personally, but is wrong on just about everything he says about his "friend" Obama. Like, Hannity, all he does is attack and criticize Obama and as long as he does that Corsi will be a welcome guest on Fox News. Corsi should be happy Obama and his family didn't sue him, but this hater has no honor or shame and that's the way Hannity likes them.
      Hannity, himself, has no honor or shame.
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    • Author by SMTDL (October 14, 2009 1:04 pm ET)
         
      A new low..even for Corsi and Hannity..." Surrender American Sovereignty"? Really? ..how so? ..in what way? .no one to challenge this nonsense on the air...the sheep must be bleating away after hearing them go at it!!!You would think making such a serious charge( treason?) they would try to use some details /facts to make the case.They basicaly said he reached out to the world so he gave American rights away..oh yeah ..the right to be an arrogant bully I guess!!!
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    • Author by caps off (October 14, 2009 1:25 pm ET)
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      I thought it was common knowledge (since it's narrow coverage of the gulf wars and biased views of the Bush administration) that 'Fox News' is merely an extension of the extreme right wing movement. How is it that this news station still holds enough credibility too remain on the air as a reliable news source?
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