Axelrod: Fox News "really not news, it's pushing a point of view" and other outlets shouldn't treat them as news
October 18, 2009 10:36 am ET
From the October 18 edition of ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos:
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It's hard to say you're a News Channel when you have the integrity of a Snake Pit.
"Please Don't Fox News Me" This should be the Main Stream Media's Anthem.
Smear & Lies are at the Heart of News Corp's inner Sanctum.
Speak truth to power.
Mr. News
Not a credible news source, just shock value and infotainment of the poorest form. Like if Gerry Springer ran a news room, about that believable.
They bring a high degree of shame and a suspended feeling of disbelief to America around the globe and simply re-affirm the notion of the 'Ugly America' at a time when the President is attempting to build bridges, not destroy them. But, what would a black, educated President know about anything anyway? He probably wasn't even elected, it's no doubt simply a conspiracy to keep 'fascists' down - that's all it is, a damn conspiracy!
And especially you, Stephanopoulos.
They have made the error of trying to drag it out for short term finacial gain. This is going to do so long term damage because once a significant portion of viewers take them for the joke they are it's going to take a lot of work and money to fix it.
I encourage all media to be critical but fair of all elected officials but not just attack and push an agenda.
My G*d, for 8 years all I heard on MSM was everything anti-Bush/Cheney, from pleadings to impeach, to demands for prosecution, to endless jokes about Bush’s ineptness at public speaking, to Cheney’s bad aim while hunting, and to the bottom line: Bush did it (whatever was wrong at the moment).
You claim that Fox News has transformed itself into the Opposition Party of the Obama White House, when, in reality, Fox is taking the hard road in saying, Wait a minute, let's take look at what is going on that others are missing. Imagine the audacity of a news outlet being a watchdog? What I want to know is this. What happened to all of the media outlets being watchdogs? Did that go out the window with Hope and Change?
What is blatant and exponentially wrong is this. We have an angry White-House that declared war on Fox News, conservatives, tea partiers and town hall demonstrators while going around the world kissing the hind quarters of our real enemies and apologizing for America! Mr. President – you and your followers – What you are saying to millions of Fox News viewers, is that you declared war not only against Fox News, but also against the many millions of us who view and support Fox. So, pray tell, does that make me (a law abiding, tax paying 8th generation American citizen) an enemy of the state?
Right.. like the US 'declared war' on Iraq.
So, now that we've got today's faxed talking points, what else is there to do?
With most all [most or all, not both]
main stream [mainstream]
hind quarters [hindquarters]
White House administration [White House or administration, not both]
Sarcasm intended. [sentence fragment]
G*d [God--what, is that profanity where you come from?]
on MSM [from the MSM]
saying, Wait [saying, "Wait]
take look [take a look]
know is this. What [this: What]
wrong is this. We [this: We]
White-House [White House]
hind quarters [hindquarters, again]
And remember, she was "using the writing skills I learned in higher education."
I hope she gets a refund.
Just for starters, please link all the ABC, CBS, and NBC hosts and guests "pleading to impeach" and "demands for prosecution" (what alternate universe were you living in, where you saw this?, the national media-driven scandal that was Cheney's bad aim (seriously- compare that to the media's reaction to Bill Clinton having sex in the White House. You are unreal) and the constant jokes about Bush's ineptness at public speaking (you might need to be reminded that MAD TV and Saturday Night Live are NOT NEWS SHOWS.)
No, your support of Fox doesn't make you an enemy of the state. It makes you a brainless, clueless twit with a head full of mush and a persecution complex. And really scary. And weird.
And get a clue about freedom of speech arguments. For someone who pretends to come here to educate us, it's pretty sad that you are so clueless about that.
The First Amendment protects US citizens from the government restricting their free speech.
It does NOT protect you from having us tell you why you're full of it. It doesn't stop anyone from criticizing FoxNews.
It's a strawman argument to claim that we're saying that your head is full of mush because you disagree with us. It's your dissing of reality that makes us say that. It's a strawman argument to claim that you're clueless because you've voiced your opinion - it's that your opinion is not based on full and factual information that makes you clueless.
FauxNew lies on air each and every day and the likes of hannity, Beck, et al just make things up.
"Though Fox News has won the cable news ratings race consistently for years and is closing in on network news numbers, Axelrod and Emanuel both encouraged other news outlets to not treat Fox News as a news organization."
Not sure how they expect to ever catch up with broadcast news!
Fox is the perpetual winner of the lawn mower portion. It's still not the main event.
Fox can't even offer opinions that are based on fact (see birthers, tea party people, Glenn Beck (who alledgedly raped and murder a young girl in 1990), etc...) so they offer lies and misinformation instead.
To paraphrase: A poo called by any other name will smell as rank
It is unfortunate for you DixieChyc, that the conservative movement in America gets too much its information from a BS source like Fox. It is unfortunate for the rest of us that you are all so closed minded and whiny.
Why a bunch of "Red Blooded Americans" would prefer to get their "news" from an organization run by some British guy will never make sense to me. At least Ted Turner is an American.
BTW, freedom of speech refers to the ability of the population to speak without GOVERNMENT interference. You can say whatever you want and so can I. Just because you have the "freedom to speak," doesn't mean that I don't have the "freedom of speech" to critique and rebut what you've said.
If the media was on the White House side, they would play up the stimulus package more instead of adopting the conservative talking points that it's not having an effect; they would be making the point that the president is not responsible for most debt; they would be playing up health care reform and the public option instead of trying disparaging it; They republican party would be painted as knee-jerk obstructionist to anything the Democrats propose; The tea baggers would be reduced to the nut cases that they are instead of being treated as though they're sane; Cap and trade would be on the White House desk; etc. The media is picking up on too many right wing memes but no organization is as blatant as FOX "News".
You didn't hear that in the MSM. Liberal blogs are not the MSM.
It didn't transform into the opposition party; it has always been that way. They've always tried to tear down the Democratic party and propped up the republican party hence they're the propaganda arm of the republican party.
FOX News declared war on the White House and finally the administration is taking a stand.
Also, we don't think you're an enemy of the state; we think you and buddies are nut cases.
Thanks for clearning that up. I guess I must be a nut case for turning off Fox News long enough to try to communicate and to understand the view points of others.
You came here to try to understand the viewpoints of others? Don't make us laugh. You did nothing of the sort.
And their bright new star has made it his mission to bring down the administration. For what? Because he thinks he can?
It's strange that your whining about whether someone considers you an enemy of the state. Remember, that each and every one of the cowards on the right who refused to serve this country, like Limbaugh O'Reilly, Hannity and Beck, have all called honorable people on the left traitors and un-American for asking legitimate questions about real policies.
Bush was pretty terrible as a President, and there was lots to legitimately object to. Obama, on the other hand, not so much, yet FoxNews didn't go after Bush like they should have and they've gone after Obama and his hires way too much given the actual evidence of wrongdoing from all of them.
And yet again we see the "victim card" being played with the comment that the White House has declared war on FoxNews. Sorry, they declared war first, so you don't get to play the victim card here.
Any objections??? Hmm???
Bizarre.
An unclassified U.S. intelligence report says Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is moving forcefully to stifle media criticism by closing scores of radio stations, tightening controls on one TV station and maneuvering to seize control of another.
Chávezs government is moving forcefully to silence critics, the Open Source Center wrote in a report dated Aug. 3.
Do any of you denounce what Chavez is doing, or do you think those pesky Venezuelen media outlets are just causing trouble for their govt and deserve to be shut down? Just wondering.
Until then, you're off topic and trying to derail a thread with an off topic rant.
That makes your post a troll post.
Please don't feed the troll.
Did you sleep through the previous 8 years ?
If the MSM continues to play dumb and allow FOX to spread its lies unchallenged, we will probably see a repeat of the Political cycle that poisoned the country from 1994-2006.
I realize there's not much hope for the true-believers like our little FOX Apologist here today, but maybe enough independents can be convinced not to allow the Troglodytes to seize power again.
Michael Clemente, Fox News' senior vice president of news, said the administration's strategy appears to be misdirected.
"Surprisingly, the White House continues to declare war on a news organization instead of focusing on the critical issues that Americans are concerned about like jobs, health care and two wars. The door remains open and we welcome a discussion about the facts behind the issues," Clemente said in a written statement.
---- Yeah, somehow this President can't walk and chew gum at the same time now, huh? ----
Former Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove said Fox News' commentators have been tough on Obama but the White House appears to be confusing the news and opinion that appears on the network.
"They're conflating the news side and the opinion side in order to -- in order to attack a media outlet. Again, it's undignified for the president of the United States to be doing" Rove said on "Fox News Sunday."
---- So, Rove is pushing the debunked talking point that their news side is honest, fair and balanced, and that this supposed fairness from their news source is the only criteria we can look at, and it's unfair to judge their opinion shows based upon their lack of factual honesty and bias. ----
And when did Fox suddenly become interested in these topics? I mean, other than in a way they could somehow use them to smear Obama yet again?
I sent David Axelrod press release after press release. I sent him press kits. I sent him photographs. Nothing. No coverage. No call to our campaign. It was a total white-out snow storm condition.
Finally, I called David Axelrod up, and just asked him, why no coverage? Didn't he think it was important that voters be well informed, before casting their votes in what was then Chicago Illinois' 11th Congressional District? Mr. Axelrod replied, that I had no idea how many press kits and press releases he received in his office in the Chicago Tribune. Lamely, he explained that he could not possibly spare a spot of ink to cover my candidate, a Republican.
So then, encountering his stiff necked refusal to do his job, I just said to him, "David, if I were you, and I were as partisan as you are proving to be, I would just be more honest with myself, and with others who vote, by quitting my Journalism job, and going into Politics myself."
I have to say, I think that was the year David Axelrod did indeed quit his media career as a political columnist and journalist, and start his very successful political consultancy career.
I would like to take the credit for that development, at least. And now, of course, "the shoe is on the other foot," so-to-speak, as David complains about biased coverage for his political campaign Client, our new President, Barack Obama.
If they really are "morons" then stop discussing this point. If you really are arguing with "morons" and "retards" then what's the point ... it's the equivalent of arguing with a tree.
As supposed intellectuals you've put yourself in an idiotic spot.
You write like a lawyer.
http://philly2philly.com/politics_community/politics_community_articles/2009/6/29/4854/fox_news_wins_lawsuit_misinform_public
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Help help, Michelle, Fox is picking on me. Get your mother , maybe she will know what to do.