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Warning against isolation of Fox News, Beck compares FNC to National Enquirer

October 20, 2009 12:17 pm ET

From the October 20 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:

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    • Author by jbraskin4786 (October 20, 2009 12:20 pm ET)
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      Wow. Something that Beck says that I can agree with.
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    • Author by achorn316 (October 20, 2009 12:24 pm ET)
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      Glenn Beck... supporting dissent since January 20th, 2009.
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      • Author by wzwriter (October 20, 2009 1:07 pm ET)
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        Glenn Beck ... supporting stupidity since February 10, 1964.
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        • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (October 20, 2009 1:19 pm ET)
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          Fox News could never rise up to the level of integrity enjoyed by the National Enquirer.

          The Enquirer is the gold standard for cutting edge journalism.
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          • Author by tman418 (October 20, 2009 1:41 pm ET)
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            Well, compared to Fox, it is.
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          • Author by jmariemo (October 20, 2009 2:43 pm ET)
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            I would certainly believe in Bat Boy over Michelle Malkin. I'm still not convinced that she's a human being.
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            • Author by John Paradox (October 20, 2009 7:15 pm ET)
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              Bat Boy is Weekly World News. I know because I have an archive of WWN's from when they were published/printed.

              Great stories.. Elvis' Ghost Serenades My Cows (real story)
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (October 20, 2009 12:26 pm ET)
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      No one put National Enquirer out of the loop...it placed itself there. FOX News has done the same thing, although pretending to be a legitimate news organization.

      When the White House said that FOX News was a legitimate news organization, how many people said, "My God, I had never thought of that!" To the contrary, millions of people (I suppose), like me, said to themselves, "What's the big deal? We've known that for years." The White House was simply stating an obvious and well-known fact.

      Listening to FOX News complain now would be very similar to, and just as ludicrous as, National Enquirer complaining that it wasn't being taken seriously as a news organization. But, just like FOX News, I am sure that people who read National Enquirer think they're getting the truth. It's a joke...like FOX News.
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (October 20, 2009 12:27 pm ET)
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        Dang...!

        CORRECTION: When the White House said that FOX News was NOT a legitimate news organization...
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      • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (October 20, 2009 1:23 pm ET)
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        Good point Irons,

        It just gives the wingnut echo chamber something to scream about for a couple days--until they can find someone else to smear.
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    • Author by thundavolt (October 20, 2009 12:28 pm ET)
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      If you keep lying and attacking for the heck o it you just destroy yourself.
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      • Author by jmariemo (October 20, 2009 2:44 pm ET)
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        To quote Rush Limbaugh, "Does he not know who is paying his salary?"
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    • Author by matrix2093 (October 20, 2009 12:28 pm ET)
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      In a perfect world, the other "news organizations", would stand up and fight against Foxnews. Wouldn't it be just great to hear Foxnews bashed on the other networks just like they get bashed on Foxnews on a regular basis. And not just a few mentions, I mean going after them all out and letting the people know how Foxnews really operates. I have no problem with reporting news and having opposing views as long as they are truthful and honest and professional.
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      • Author by taranq1 (October 20, 2009 1:24 pm ET)
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        Please educate me and explain what Fox has reported that isn't true? I keep hearing and reading this but nobody has come right out and said or proved anything about FOX. I find it frustrating don't you? So please tell me what FOX has said or done that isn't the truth. Another great plan would be to call the Glenn Beck show and let him know what you have proven to NOT be true and have him apologize for his words and then speak only the truth. Isn't this what he said he would do if he was proven wrong? So stop bashing and start producing some facts. How do you know how Fox news operates. Please share this as well.
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        • Author by tman418 (October 20, 2009 1:51 pm ET)
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          "[G]ullible" Fox & Friends escape lawsuit for repeating yet another false news story"
          http://mediamatters.org/research/200806060010

          Guilty: Coulter's latest book filled with falsehoods
          Fox News Channel
          http://mediamatters.org/research/200901040002

          On Page 15, Coulter writes, "Fox News has never been caught promoting a fraud -- unlike CBS (Bush National Guard story), ABC (tobacco industry report), NBC (exploding GM trucks), CNN (Tailwind), and MSNBC (Keith Olbermann)." In fact, as Media Matters has documented, on several occasions since 2004, Fox News has issued a retraction and apology for airing a news report that repeated false information, one of which led Fox News' Vice President for News John Moody to reportedly warn staff in January 2007 that "seeing an item on a website does not mean it is right. Nor does it mean it is ready for air on FNC."

          On the April 24, 2007, edition of Fox & Friends, co-hosts Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade repeated as fact an online parody news report of a school prank that included fabricated quotes attributed to the superintendent. Doocy issued an on-air retraction and apology during the May 16, 2007, edition of Fox & Friends First, but the superintendent brought suit against the Fox News Channel, Doocy, and Kilmeade. In a June 3, 2008, decision dismissing the lawsuit, U.S. District Court Judge D. Brock Hornby wrote:

          The facts in this case -- a morning cable news show derisively reporting events and statements obtained unwittingly from an online parody -- should provide grist for journalism classes teaching research and professionalism standards in the Internet age. But First Amendment principles developed long before the Internet still provide protection to the gullible news program hosts against this public official's claims for defamation and false light invasion of privacy. Poetic justice would subject the defendants to the same ridicule that they accorded the plaintiff. But in real life, the aggrieved school superintendent must be satisfied with their later retraction and a professional reputation sullied less than theirs.

          The lawsuit was filed by Leon Levesque, a school superintendent in Lewiston, Maine. According to The Associated Press, "[t]he case was an outgrowth of an April 2007 prank in which a middle school student tossed a slab of leftover Easter ham onto a table surrounded by Somali Muslim youngsters, knowing the Muslims would be offended." Freelance writer Nicholas Plagman later published a fabricated news report about the incident at Associated Content in which he attributed numerous made-up quotes to Levesque, including one in which Levesque was alleged to have said: "These children have got to learn that ham is not a toy." On the April 24, 2007, edition of Fox & Friends, Doocy and Kilmeade reported on Plagman's story as though it were fact and repeated several of the made-up quotes attributed to Levesque. In discussing the parody report, Doocy repeatedly asserted: "We are not making this up." Indeed, when Kilmeade asserted: "You know, I hope we're not being duped," Doocy replied, "We're not being duped. I've looked it up on a couple of different websites up there."

          Doocy has also retracted his false assertion on the January 19, 2007, Fox & Friends, that Barack Obama "spent the first decade of his life, raised by his Muslim father -- as a Muslim and was educated in a madrassa." According to the washingtonpost.com blog The Sleuth, Moody subsequently "issued this missive to staff in his daily editorial note on Jan. 23 [2007]: 'For the record: seeing an item on a website does not mean it is right. Nor does it mean it is ready for air on FNC.' " Moody also criticized the hosts of Fox & Friends in a January 29, 2007, New York Times article, saying, "The hosts violated one of our general rules, which is know what you are talking about. ... They reported information from a publication whose accuracy we didn't know."

          Further, on October 1, 2004, Fox News issued a retraction and an apology for a news story written by chief political correspondent Carl Cameron that falsely attributed quotes to Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) in an attempt to ridicule him over a purported manicure.


          That's all I'm posting for now. Just look at the archives to find your answers.
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        • Author by Indy (October 20, 2009 2:06 pm ET)
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          Here you go. Enjoy.

          http://mediamatters.org/
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    • Author by noneyabidnis (October 20, 2009 12:32 pm ET)
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      Glenn Beck had Chris Wallace on his show "anonymously" last night.

      It's official. Nothing Beck says from the point forward is relevant.
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      • Author by noneyabidnis (October 20, 2009 12:32 pm ET)
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        An "anonymous" "concerned parent", that is.
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      • Author by raine315 (October 20, 2009 12:45 pm ET)
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        That had to be THE weirdest segment I had ever seen on a cable news broadcast. It was as if Beck was hosting "The Wingnut Dating Game":

        "Im a concerned parent who enjoys guns, hate communist and looking foward to the impeachment of President Obama"
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        • Author by noneyabidnis (October 20, 2009 12:58 pm ET)
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          Yes - it was weird. Took Beck's show to a whole new level of crazy. Even before realizing that the "concerned parent" was Chris Wallace.
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    • Author by magnolialover (October 20, 2009 12:41 pm ET)
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      Finally, Glenn is right about something. That FoxNews is just like the National Enquirer. Whereas, the NE can once in a great while come up with a story that rings true (John Edwards affair thing springs to mind), but 99.9995% of the time, they're just making things up.

      So yeah, Glenn, the NE is JUST LIKE FOXNEWS.
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    • Author by PurpleState (October 20, 2009 12:48 pm ET)
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      So....DOES he have a love child?

      I think that's the point you're missing, Glenn.

      Pounding on someone with an unsubstantiated item for a year does not make it true!
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    • Author by epkklk851 (October 20, 2009 12:58 pm ET)
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      Very little of the media is really rising to defend Fixed Spews. It was covered last night on The NewsHour. They had Jane Hall on, and despite having had her mike turned off and being blown off by Bill O'Reilly, she was defending Fox, and said that it detrack from the prestige of the White House. But she did say the White House was right to call out Sean and Glenn, but to distinguish between the commentators and the journalists. That may be somewhat true, but really, Fox even tilts its news a certain way, too. Years ago, I gave up watching ABC Evening news because they tended to choose the most loaded words to describe the situation, that was also when I switched to PBS. Glenn Beck is tabuloid TV, he can't have it both ways, he can't say he isn't a journalist and then claim to be exposing great truths, he also can't say he is doing it as an ordinary schlub, either. He is a multimillionaire. He gave up being an ordinary schlub when he demanded and received a Rolex as a signing bonus. And he isn't reporting real news, even his exposees are garbage. Going to four or five ACORN offices and finding dishonest employees is like going to 7-11 or Penney's and saying there is a basic problem with the whole company because you caught a half-dozen employees with their fingers in the till or giving away stuff to their friends.
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      • Author by The New Pilgrims (October 20, 2009 1:17 pm ET)
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        Good comments, epkklk851. I would add, having watched Fox quite a bit over the years, that there is a phenomenon on that network that I've not seen anyone else bring up ever.

        Simply put, while Democrats/liberals are (generally) fairly represented on the non-news shows, they are very rarely allowed to finish a complete sentence. This is because the hosts (Hannity, O'Reilly, Beck et al) routinely interrupt their Democrat/liberal guests (but not their Republican/conservative counterparts). I'm not talking about the occasional interruption that occurs in your typical political conversation. I'm talking about pervasive interruptions that make it impossible for the Democrats/liberals to put even just one point on the table.

        There have been some rare exceptions to this. The most recent one that comes to mind was Joan Walsh, who was on O'Reilly a few months back after the murder of Dr. Tiller. Walsh is such an intelligent and assertive speaker that she was able to minimize O'Reilly's attempts to cut her off. But that happens only rarely and most people don't have the skill set needed to pull it off.

        Anyway, that's my pet peeve about Fox -- they claim "fair and balanced" and they do (generally) have fair representation on the talk shows ... but are able to squash that representation with constant interruptions.
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    • Author by wzwriter (October 20, 2009 2:09 pm ET)
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      Faux News is more like the Weekly World News. And Glenn Beck is the Bat Boy.....

      [http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/original/0723weeklyworld.jpg]

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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (October 20, 2009 3:00 pm ET)
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        Fox News is Geraldo Rivera. And the world is Al Capone's vault.
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    • Author by jdhobbes (October 20, 2009 3:18 pm ET)
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      Why doesn't Beck get it? Being critical is fine. Obama doesn't have a problem with being critical. But generating lies, what-if scenarios, and general fear-mongering is NOT the same as being critical.

      Why do we even care what Glenn Beck thinks? Since when do rodeo clowns have any significant insight into political maters?
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