Limbaugh to NYTimes environment reporter Revkin: "Why don't you just go kill yourself"
From the October 20 edition of Premiere Radio Network's The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: I think these militant environmentalists, these wackos, have so much in common with the jihad guys. Let me explain this. What do the jihad guys do? The jihad guys go to families under their control and they convince these families to strap explosives on who? Not them. On their kids. Grab your 3-year-old, grab your 4-year-old, grab your 6-year-old, and we're gonna strap explosives on there, and then we're going to send you on a bus, or we're going to send you to a shopping center, and we're gonna tell you when to pull the trigger, and you're gonna blow up, and you're gonna blow up everybody around you, and you're gonna head up to wherever you're going, 73 virgins are gonna be there. The little 3- or 4-year-old doesn't have the presence of mind, so what about you? If it's so great up there, why don't you go? Why don't you strap explosives on you -- and their parents don't have the guts to tell the jihad guys, "You do it! Why do you want my kid to go blow himself up?" The jihad guys will just shoot 'em, 'cause the jihad guys have to maintain control.
The environmentalist wackos are the same way. This guy from The New York Times, if he really thinks that humanity is destroying the planet, humanity is destroying the climate, that human beings in their natural existence are going to cause the extinction of life on Earth -- Andrew Revkin. Mr. Revkin, why don't you just go kill yourself and help the planet by dying?
From Revkin's New York Times blog post (emphasis added):
More children equal more carbon dioxide emissions. And recent research has resulted in renewed coverage of the notion that one of the cheapest ways to curb emissions in coming decades would be to provide access to birth control for tens of millions of women around the world who say they desire it. A study by researchers at the London School of Economics and commissioned by the Optimum Population Trust came to the following conclusion:
Contraception is 'Greenest' Technology
U.N. data suggest that meeting unmet need for family planning would reduce unintended births by 72 per cent, reducing projected world population in 2050 by half a billion to 8.64 billion. Between 2010 and 2050 12 billion fewer "people-years" would be lived - 326 billion against 338 billion under current projections. The 34 gigatons of CO2 saved in this way would cost $220 billion - roughly $7 a ton [metric tons]. However, the same CO2 saving would cost over $1trillion if low-carbon technologies were used. (Here's a link to a pdf of the report.)
I recently raised the question of whether this means we'll soon see a market in baby-avoidance carbon credits similar to efforts to sell CO2 credits for avoiding deforestation. This is purely a thought experiment, not a proposal. But the issue is one that is rarely discussed in climate treaty talks or in debates over United States climate legislation. If anything, the population-climate question is more pressing in the United States than in developing countries, given the high per-capita carbon dioxide emissions here and the rate of population growth. If giving women a way to limit family size is such a cheap win for emissions, why isn't it in the mix?











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Get over the stupid "side" crap . . . makes you look as small and petty as Rush.
1) Rush tells Revkin he should kill himself.
2) Easy says Rush should take his own advice.
3) Grunt decries Easy for saying such a bad thing to Rush.
4) Grunt goes on to praise Rush, who made the original offending comment.
Wingnut logic at its finest.
Yeah. I don't think Reality gives a crud how many whackos and losers listen faithfully to Rush.
How many times have we seen conservatives trot out that idiotic fallacy? Thousands? Millions?
Do you even realize that by your own (severely limited attempt at) logic, Barack Obama is "right on point"?
Oh my Gosh. Reason sucks, I know.
Yeah? Who told you that? Rush himself? PROOVE IT.
Or STFU and stop making stuff up.
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OTOTH, who knows... NEVER understimate the power of STUPID PEOPLE in LARGE NUMBERS.
This is the Clear Channel way. Corner the market in bigger cities, dish out the content to locals for a reduced fee or free then claim the entire listening area as for your market share.
I would venture to say that in this rural listening area of about 35,000 perhaps 500-1000 people may listen. Because only about 20% of the population can get the signal in a 3 mile radius. That is a tiny market share.
Go google how much Clear Channel pays Rush and how they are struggling financially. It rather ironic that the star of their network may be their undoing.
As the following article states, no one knows how many people listen to Rush:
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/nation/content/nation/epaper/2009/03/06/a2a_limbaugh_0307.html
But judging by your posts, his listeners' stupidity seems to grow at an astronomical rate.
I should just place disclaimers at the end of every post. Hmph.
Be honest--does the latter sound like Limbaugh? Or Beck, or O'Reilly, or Savage, or Levin, or Hannity, or Coulter, or Malkin, or ...?
I know that there are atheists and agnostics on board, and one of the things I hope to do for them is to show them that Pat Robertson, et. al., is not the image they should get when they hear the word "Christian." We're not all like that, by any means.
I don't believe in God; so, you're rebuttal doesn't really pertain to me. Oops, Grunt...
If you can't type it, grunt it out.
This is an extremely hypocritical comment. You say Rush's quote is taken out of context and then go on to give a false representation of Revkin's blog. You are allowed to have your opinion and support Rush but don't change the facts to make a point.
Maybe you just didn't read his blog post to begin with? Try to get your facts straight before you go blasting people.
JAM
Problem is: Rush doesn't understand the article. He's going in with the mindset "global warming is a hoax and this is a liberal environmentalist idiot". Of course he's not going to get it.
But I'll humor you. It's not that humans as in humans who lived 6 000 years ago (in the dawn of time?) are destroying the planet. It's humans as in industries that dump mercury into drinking water killing off wild-life and making the water undrinkable, that kind of reckless behavior, is screwing up the planet. Humans aren't the problem, it's humans who don't take the environment into consideration when using technology.
Some evidence please.
Air and water quality are markedly better today than they were 20 years ago. Life expectancy continues to advance, not decline.
Second, life expectancy of humans advancing is in no way proof that the environment is also improving. You're confusing correlation for causation. If anything, life expectancy gains are due more to modern medicine than having a good environment.
Two or three? I think you may have underestimated just a bit.
God, but we're bastards, aren't we!
Funny how you bring up murderous dictators of the past, when Rush is very popular with the AB and "white nation" crowd.
Wow, grunt, it's been a while since I've encountered an argument as vacuous as that one. Living does not increase the population. If every woman had two children, the population still would not increase (and that's assuming no women die before giving birth to two children). This should be obvious to anyone who can do basic math. How sad that you not only apparently fell for Limbaugh's rhetorical sleight of hand, but defended it.
The team owners are different. They manage the league...they are supposed to be the adults. The league, i.e. the owners, makes tons of money. The owners are required to avoid controversy not create controversy. It's bad for business.
Now, if Rush Limbaugh decided to retire from right wing commentary and give up his radio and speaking career I think the NFL would likely approve him. But the NFL doesn't need Rush Limbaugh in order to succeed...the NFL is already a bigger success than Rush Limbaugh. The NFL doesn't need the continuing controversy Limbaugh would most assuredly bring.
Can we get a ban for "grunt" please?
Also, they have no issue in gambling with the lives of others.
It appears that if Rush wants to get angry, it does not matter whether there is any real connection between what he is talking about. Apparently juxtaposing two things makes them somehow related. Unfortunately, there must be many people who find that either amusing or correct. The sad part is not that Rush does it but that some people go along with it.
I should hit up my local television station and play a Star Wars clip immediately followed by Rush's sweet, melodic voicebox and then, proceed to declare that Rush Limbaugh is currently manufacturing the Death Star with plans to eliminate San Francisco and the Middle East (God save Israel.)
What guys? I played the clips back to back; they connect!
That said, Rush is an a-hole. One of these days, he's going to cross the line. I'm not sure where the line is, or what it's going to look like, but he's a loose cannon.
When Rush talks about "the jihad guys" he sounds like a child, fetishizing on a fantasy.
Glenn Beck often refers to his imaginary bad guys as "THEY."
Two minutes, 10 seconds is about all I can take of a pompous ass.
These people continuously accuse others of doing exactly what they do to make their millions.
Get lost melonhead and be grateful there are lemmings in this world!
We already have 1 billion people on this earth that are malnourished or not getting enough food to eat everyday. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that unless we do something 50 or 100 years from now we are going to have an even bigger, possibly destructive problem.
This blogger talks about CO2 emissions from just the human, but each human contributes much more C02 to the atmosphere than what their body produces. People buy cars, buy products, burn fossil fuels, etc. Reducing unintended pregnancies is a noble idea. There are already too many unloved, underfed kids in the world. We don't need more. We need to figure out "this whole air food deal" as Bill Hicks used to say.
I think the blogger makes a valid point.
Answer: Because it came from a liberal. Under current conservative rules, they are honorbound to disagree, vehemently, with anything liberals say or do.
Here's an example: Liberal Man says to Liberal Woman, "Earlier today, I took that one billion dollars that I don't want any more and I gave it to Rush Limbaugh, tax free."
Proper conservative response: "If he's so smart, how come Liberal Man had only accrued one billion dollars? And by giving this much money to Rush, was Liberal Man attempting to set up Rush as a theft victim? Liberal Man is clearly a terrible, terrible person who hates America to its core."
Proper conservative response: "That anti-capitalist liberal has singlehandedly destroyed the health care industry."
The amount of CO2 from humans and animals is irrelevant. All the C02 they breath out came from plant matter which was taken out of the air. This circular process has zero impact on CO2 concentration, and was going on for millions of years before we started burning fossil fuels. It's flat out stupid to say that animals breathing out CO2, or plant decomposition for that matter, contribute to global warming. It loss of biomass (deforestation), and burning of fossil fuels. That's it.
That would be true if humans were like any other species. But we are not like any other species. We have no natural predators to check our population growth. The human population keeps growing and growing and growing and through our intellect and inventiveness we figure out ways to continue to produce more food (for the most part) and increase living conditions that make it more hospitable for people to produce even more children.
With other animals (deer for example), there are natural predators to keep their populations in check. Hunters for the most part control the population of deer. Name any other animal and you can think of a predator that controls its population (usually humans). We have nothing really that acts as a genuine population limiter (except for possible contraception which in some cultures is demonized as being unholy). So we have this exponentially growing human population producing CO2 that has no natural check other than the occasional war or tsunami. The "circular process" you mentioned was disrupted by the emergence of the modern day man.
As the population continues to swell with no natural limits then the amount of humans as a whole start to increasingly contribute to the global warming effect. Deforestation only exacerbates the problem. And my point was that more humans means more fossil fuel burning contributing much more CO2 to the atmosphere than only their breathing. But the blogger makes a valid point that just their CO2 emissions alone could contribute and that less people would mean less CO2. CO2 is CO2 whether it comes from fossil fuel burning or not.
Hmmmm... The Drugster? Or The Quitter??
Unfortunately, it was down in the Dominican Republic.
Even if Revkin had advocated for baby-avoidance carbon credits (which he didn't) rather than asking why the issue wasn't being discussed more, Limbaugh's comment still would be a pretty absurd overreaction.
As it is, Limbaugh, as is his way, sets up a fictitious Revkin straw man so he can act righteous and tell the straw man to kill himself. Slick--but typical Limbaugh.
Obama is driving conservatives crazy so then HE must be "right on point". No, he isn't driving anyone crazy. He is merely spreading the disappointment amongst those who voted using the Bush is an idiot, Bush is a Republican, I will vote for anyone that's not the Republican.
Driving people crazy could only be true if he had accomplished any of his "hope and change" BS from the campaign. So far he's 0 for 2009.
The disingenuous furor over Rush telling Revkin to kill himself is another silly attempt to vilify Limbaugh by pretending to not understand the rhetorical, stretched to the point of ridiculous to make the point logic. Just so weak. Media Matters is almost as funny as HuffPo. The only difference, which remains to be seen until after I click "Save" is that you publish my comments, HuffPo can't bear to do so.