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Carlson compares health insurance reform to illegal immigration enforcement

October 26, 2009 8:20 am ET

From the October 26 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

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    • Author by raine315 (October 26, 2009 8:38 am ET)
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      There goes that Stepford far away look in Gretch's eyes again. I dont even bother to play the clips of her anymore- her "look" just says it all for me.
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      • Author by blk-in-alabam (October 26, 2009 8:49 am ET)
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        There is something about thoes women on fox eyes.What do you think they use to make their eyes look like that.
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        • Author by raine315 (October 26, 2009 9:05 am ET)
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          I think its botox overload
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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (October 26, 2009 11:35 am ET)
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          There is something about thoes women on fox eyes.What do you think they use to make their eyes look like that.
          Frightened ignorance, most probably.
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    • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (October 26, 2009 8:44 am ET)
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      The more apt comparison is Gretchen Carlson and a bag of hair.

      To make it fair, I'll stipulate that first, all the smart hair should be removed from the bag.
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      • Author by puppienrainbows (October 26, 2009 11:28 am ET)
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        Thank you, etrw, for giving the OK to disparage someone based on their appearance. Nancy's face-stretch and Hillary's 'Oprah' thighs are fair game, I guess. Right? How 'bout Obama's Alfred E. Newman ears! He can hear the cops coming for miles! Once again, thank you for the go-ahead to judge and disparage someone based on their appearance.
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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (October 26, 2009 11:37 am ET)
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          Thank you, etrw, for giving the OK to disparage someone based on their appearance.
          P&R(Idiot), please show me in my post where I mentioned her appearance. I said she can be compared to a bag of hair with all the smart hair removed. In the same vein, you are as stupid as a box of hammers with all the smart hammers removed. And that has nothing to do with your appearance, except for the fact that that your posts give off the appearance of someone too dumb to feed himself without leaving spork marks in his forehead.
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          • Author by puppienrainbows (October 26, 2009 11:41 am ET)
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            Do you realize how stupid you sound? Probably not. It takes a fair amount of gray matter to review ones self on a regular basis. That, etrw, is something you're not up to.
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            • Author by vhw28672478 (October 26, 2009 12:05 pm ET)
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              you are a joke
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            • Author by jmariemo (October 26, 2009 12:09 pm ET)
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              That is true. Etrw did not say anything about her appearance. So, it's idiotic to comment about how idiotic a statement is that doesn't state nor imply the reason for which you thought it was so idiotic. Follow me? I haven't had coffee yet this morning. :/
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              • Author by puppienrainbows (October 26, 2009 12:27 pm ET)
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                Ignorance comes in pairs!
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                • Author by puppienrainbows (October 26, 2009 12:28 pm ET)
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                  .....then tell me, jm, to what was etrw referring to if it wasn't her appearance?
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                  • Author by Lane (October 26, 2009 12:42 pm ET)
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                    to what was etrw referring to if it wasn't her appearance?


                    I said she can be compared to a bag of hair with all the smart hair removed.


                    Dumb + Smart - Dumb = ?
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                • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (October 26, 2009 2:56 pm ET)
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                  Ignorance comes in pairs!
                  Apparently to puppies and to rainbows.
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                • Author by John Paradox (October 26, 2009 3:09 pm ET)
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                  You have a twin?
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                • Author by jmariemo (October 26, 2009 5:23 pm ET)
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                  Let's re-read etrw statement and not use a "bag of hair". Instead, we will replace it with a "box of rocks".

                  "The more apt comparison is Gretchen Carlson and a box of rocks.

                  To make it fair, I'll stipulate that first, all the smart rocks should be removed from the box."

                  Do you see now how that has nothing at all to do with appearance?
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            • Author by DellDolly (October 26, 2009 12:31 pm ET)
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              Why not just admit that you misread his comment? It won't make you melt away like the wicked witch of the west after she was splashed with water. It won't make you dissolve like the bad automaton did in the Terminator movies after he fell into a vat of molten metal.

              He didn't attack her looks. He attacked the vacuousness of her character and personality based upon her failed analogy and her history of vapid and pointless commentaries.
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            • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (October 26, 2009 3:24 pm ET)
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              Do you realize how stupid you sound?
              If there ever was proof that P&R(Idiot) has no concept of irony...
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            • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (October 26, 2009 3:24 pm ET)
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              Do you realize how stupid you sound?
              If there ever was proof that P&R(Idiot) has no concept of irony...
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            • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (October 26, 2009 3:25 pm ET)
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              Do you realize how stupid you sound?
              If anyone needs proof that P&R(Idiot) has no concept of irony...
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            • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (October 26, 2009 3:29 pm ET)
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              Do you realize how stupid you sound?
              If anyone needed proof that P&R(Idiot) has no sense of irony...
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              • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (October 26, 2009 3:30 pm ET)
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                MM wouldn't update, so I restarted the browser. Now I find that it did update, it just didn't show the updated screen until I restarted.
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                • Author by mescal (October 26, 2009 8:43 pm ET)
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                  don't worry, Easy. your post was worth reading 4 times. It was a point that needed making.
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    • Author by mk3872 (October 26, 2009 10:12 am ET)
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      WHAT!?!? WAIT A SECOND!

      I just listened to an entire week of the MSM telling me that Fox News is only opinionated on their evening programs!

      Well, so much for that theory ...
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    • Author by dimes (October 26, 2009 10:34 am ET)
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      What did Olbermann call her the other day - "Fox news actress"? Sounds about right.
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    • Author by roundhouse (October 26, 2009 11:18 am ET)
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      Interesting. So much crap in this clip.

      Don't know if Carlson was criticizing the 'opt in' proposal where states have the option of buying in to the public option, but she has to know that's how Eisenhower sold the highway system to the recalcitrants of his day.

      F the chamber of commerce and f the health insurance industry, ol dude's plea for sympathy on their behalf was pathetic. It's time for government to beat them back because they do not represent average people.

      I like penalizing employers whose employees have to seek government help for medical care. But did you notice how Gretchen twisted that bit by the end of the segment? She asked if law enforcement won't go after immigrants, how do you expect them to go after kids who aren't paying the $750 fine? That's patently dishonest, it's the employer that will be fined, not the employee.
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    • Author by thebigsheister (October 26, 2009 11:56 am ET)
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      Awesome. Let me clarify the conservative position here... Apparently illegal immigrants should not be given subsidies to buy insurance, should not be allowed to even purchase insurance, but SHOULD be forced to pay any fine resulting in them not having insurance?
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    • Author by jmariemo (October 26, 2009 11:59 am ET)
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      Woah, woah, woah! Did she just say that young people might just pay the fine, because it is so cheap? This is the complete disconnect from these people and poor people.

      I ask any of you who are young: is $750 dollars cheap for you? I'm struggling to find the $65 dollars I owe to the library and figure out how I'm going to eat tonight let alone hop on the chance to pay $750. (Yes, I'm still renting books from the library.)

      And how does one make the illogical leap from young people paying or not paying-that wasn't made particularly clear either-to illegal immigrants crossing the border in mass armies to exploit our healthcare system for their own gain? Wait, don't they claim that is happening now? Wait...I'm so confused.
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      • Author by roundhouse (October 26, 2009 12:16 pm ET)
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        See how effective they are at this game? First they state that the employer will be fined $750 per employee who has to seek government help. They then lead you to believe that you will be fined if you don't have insurance and they evoke negative feelings about immigrants and link it to healthcare. See how they tricked you?

        These people suck.
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        • Author by EZ4you2say (October 26, 2009 3:05 pm ET)
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          What game is that?
          Let me spell it out for you.
          If you can afford, but choose not to buy insurance, you pay a $750 tax. If you can't afford to buy, but are employed, your employer pays the $750 tax.
          And it was "illeagle" immigrants. Just stating facts. Isn't that what MMFA yearns for? Facts?
          If you weren't so blinded but your hatred for anything "Fox", you probably wouldn't have anything to say.
          That's allright though, your parents will probably pay for your insurance, since I'm guessing you still live in their basement.
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          • Author by roundhouse (October 26, 2009 3:20 pm ET)
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            Sit down, Francis.

            Apparently, my dislike of Fox does not hold a candle to the unfortunate and pathetic rage you have for me; a stranger in a chat room.


            At any rate, I'm commenting on Fox's portrayal of the issue. Watch the clip, they pulled a sleight of hand in the very manner I mentioned.


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          • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (October 26, 2009 3:31 pm ET)
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            That's allright though, your parents will probably pay for your insurance, since I'm guessing you still live in their basement.
            Are you certain of that because it's the situation in which you live, so you know about it?
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      • Author by EZ4you2say (October 26, 2009 2:58 pm ET)
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        So then,
        How are you going to pay for this insurance, that YOUR government is going to FORCE you to BUY? You do understand that, right? We will all be REQUIRED to buy insurance. We already know how well that has worked out in Massachusetts.
        I know, you'll plead poverty and let someone else pay for it.
        The American way!
        Your last paragraph doesn't make any sense. Were you trying to be funny? You should work on that! What she said was that since the government doesn't go after illeagle aliens (A victimless crime, according to most liberals)then why would they go after young people for tax evasion, because that is what will happen if you don't buy insurance, and then don't pay the tax penalty for not buying insurance. It wasn't about illeagles....ooohhhh sorry, "undocumented workers" coming over here for health care.
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        • Author by EZ4you2say (October 26, 2009 3:07 pm ET)
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          Oh, no....you're going to have a field day with this one...
          It was supposed to be "illegals"
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          • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (October 26, 2009 3:32 pm ET)
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            It was supposed to be "illegals"
            But it turned out to be "ignorance."
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            • Author by EZ4you2say (October 27, 2009 8:55 am ET)
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              You should just go back to "World of Warcraft" and let the adults have the debate.
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        • Author by jmariemo (October 26, 2009 5:18 pm ET)
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          Wait a tick...
          1.) If you are assuming that any of us are advocating for the Baucus Plan, you are highly mistaken. I want universal healthcare, not for-profit healthcare that I'm mandated to buy.
          2.) You stated, "plead poverty and let someone else pay for it." When exactly did the poor person become inherently immoral? Why are you so intent on having suffering people suffer more? So the wealthy can have a better life? Is it because they didn't trail in their father's footsteps and snort coke at their Yale fraternity like our former Prez? Would they be worthy of the good life then?
          3.) What's wrong with anyone living with their parents during these tough economic times? How elitist of you!!!
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    • Author by EZ4you2say (October 26, 2009 3:16 pm ET)
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      Talk about disingenuous. MMFA takes the whole 4-minute segment, uses one comment, then takes it out of context and bases this story on it. You leftys always claim you never lie, you don't have to.
      MMFA's title of the piece;
      "Carlson compares health insurance reform to illegal immigration enforcement"
      She didn't compare health reform to immigration enforcement. What was said is that she wondered if the government would go after people for not paying the Health Insurance tax with equal zeal they use to go after illegal immigrants.(an opinion-NOT NEWS) Which I guess is not much.
      The point was, if you refuse to pay the tax, you probably won't be prosecuted for it
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (October 26, 2009 4:42 pm ET)
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      Gretchen Carlson is an idiot! This is the same woman that said that she is all about free speech just not on Christmas! When she was talking about a story on Athiests and free speech. Plus do you really think that employers will even let it be known that they have illegal immigrants working for them just so they will get this penalty charge if they have illegals???

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      • Author by EZ4you2say (October 27, 2009 9:00 am ET)
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        The comment had nothing to do with hiring illegal immigrants. It was a comparison of enforcement levels from the government, for not paying the tax.
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