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Fox & Friends speculate that Karzai's brother's reported ties to drugs, CIA was leaked to give Obama cover to oppose troop increase

October 28, 2009 7:07 am ET

From the October 28 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

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    • Author by Bad News (October 28, 2009 7:17 am ET)
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      "A Hostile Enemy of the United States"
      Gretchen Carlson, An Apology from You is still the Order of the Day.
      Hmmm, Two Corrupt Afghans? Why would you want to hurt President Obama that Way?
      Gretchen, your mouth spits out Mis-information real good, Wouldn't you Say?

      Speak truth to power.


      Mr. News


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      • Author by Bad News (October 28, 2009 7:34 am ET)
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        Bill O'Reilly, What will your "Memo" be about Tonight?
        Hey' i know lets use your exact quote "Should White Americans be Concerned About Judge Sotomayor" did i get your Racist Quote Right?
        Hey Bill-O have you noticed all the Employee Sex Scandals of Late?
        Does it make you feel Proud Bill? Does it make you want to "Phone Fornicate"

        Speak truth to power.


        Mr. News
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    • Author by christopher howard (October 28, 2009 7:21 am ET)
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      Gretchen wants to have it both ways. She wants to blame the "liberal" NY Times for running with this story to stop our sending more troops to Afghanistan, while at the same time pushing the formulation that Obama is dealing with thugs.

      The CIA has been friendly with certain drug dealers for decades. Big surprise.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_drug_trafficking
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    • Author by robyn20094113 (October 28, 2009 7:48 am ET)
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      And the Obama Administration, has a problem with perception if it appears they are backing thugs, in Afghanistan
      My god, the evil look and tone, and with such conviction, in which Carlson, threw that out there. She, at least has made up her mind, that it's true. We know that's the new thing they will all, pick up and run with.
      Ms. Carlson, you have a problem with perception, backing the Health Insurance Thugs!
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      • Author by Conchobhar (October 28, 2009 9:41 am ET)
           
        If you're in Afghanistan, dealing with anyone who has power, you're dealing with thugs, Gretch. Try Googling Dostum and Hekmatayar.
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        • Author by robyn20094113 (October 28, 2009 9:49 am ET)
             
          Read Cat's post below. Leaving to Google Dostum & Hekmatayar.
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          • Author by Conchobhar (October 28, 2009 11:28 am ET)
               
            Thanks. Cat and I posted almost simultaneously, then I had to go out.
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      • Author by Boxer1979 (October 28, 2009 1:17 pm ET)
           
        She also has a problem with Atheists.
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      • Author by canaanxing9025 (October 28, 2009 6:45 pm ET)
           
        Robyn:

        Gretchen Carlson is always angry and ourtraged about something. If you watch her during that clip she was watching somebody off camera. She was taking direction.Keith Olbermann summed it up best when he called her: "actress, Gretchen Carlson." I guess "evil look, and convection" make up for any lack of crediabilty at Fox News.

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    • Author by blk-in-alabam (October 28, 2009 7:58 am ET)
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      Republicans party media rush to send troops to Afghanistan.Afghanistan supplies a big part of the worlds op ion,and heroin.Many American soldiers got hooked on heroin in Vietnam.The same thing(can,is)happening in Afghanistan today.War is dangerous in many ways
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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (October 28, 2009 8:17 am ET)
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      I am supposing the next thing that comes out will be, that the first paycheck this guy got from CIA is dated after Jan 20 ??????

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (October 28, 2009 8:17 am ET)
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      Golly...that Barack Obama is so sneaky! I'll bet he's a Marxist...from Kenya.
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    • Author by teabaggers ♥ [wing]NUTS (October 28, 2009 8:19 am ET)
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      what gives ms piggy, bert and ernie any legitimacy to speculate about baseless theories? just peddling their typical assumptions and talking points, as usual.
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    • Author by drempala (October 28, 2009 9:05 am ET)
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      Watching them cover the news is like watching the Temptations dance. Everybody together now!
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      • Author by christopher howard (October 28, 2009 9:09 am ET)
           
        Except without the talent.
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        • Author by Conchobhar (October 28, 2009 9:36 am ET)
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          The visual, which I can't get out of my head, of this crowd trying to sell My Girl is just chilling. Thanks heaps, Drempala.
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          • Author by robyn20094113 (October 28, 2009 9:44 am ET)
               
            Ha. Couldn't be any worse, than watching them do the news or what ever this dance is.
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            • Author by The_Cat (October 28, 2009 9:51 am ET)
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              Fascists don't dance. They march. Lockstep in thought, opinion, and belief. FOX Propaganda has a dreadful perfection of bias all its own.

              We'd probably all be a lot better off if they could loosen up enough to actually dance for real, rather than simply goose-step at the end of Mr. Murdoch's strings.
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    • Author by The_Cat (October 28, 2009 9:42 am ET)
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      No, Gretchen, it appears they are continuing to back the Bush/Cheney thugs in Afghanistan. IF this story is confirmed, it would be best if you at least read the first line of the article that you were waving about on your tv show.

      "Ahmed Wali Karzai, the brother of the Afghan president and a suspected player in the country's booming illegal opium trade, gets regular payments from the Central Intelligence Agency, and has for much of the past eight years, according to current and former American officials." (NY Times, 10-27-09, emphasis added)

      So, if Ahmed Wali Karzai is in fact involved in the opium trade, and if in fact he's been getting checks from the CIA, this is yet another Bush/Cheney legacy problem that President Obama will need to deal with.

      If you're arguing for more troops into Afghanistan, you're ignoring Russia's disastrous attempt at nation building there, as well as failed Bush/Cheney policy, and, as a major producer of opium, the potential of increased trafficking into the U.S. during wartime of that drug. It happened with our escalation in Viet Nam, and it will happen here, too.

      If you think dealing heroin wholesale is merely a 'checkered past', then you also probably also think it was okay that Rush Limbaugh escaped the penalties that any other American would've faced if caught with as much illegal oxycontin as he had in his possession. It was not a case of simple possession. Rather, under the guidelines, it could have been treated as possession with intent to deliver. Everything he owned, all his money, his house, his cars, could've been seized and sold off as profits of an illegal drug enterprise. Funny how we're supposed to 'just say no', but ignore the fact that it's okay if you're Republican.
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    • Author by Sks1 (October 28, 2009 10:06 am ET)
         
      clustefox n friends speaking about things of which they have no idea...why dont they speak about haliburton and those private contractors in iraq the way they are so outraged about acorn
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    • Author by antihannity2009 (October 28, 2009 11:19 am ET)
         
      She acts so surprised that a lot of these people over there are connected with the drug trade. You'd think that she would want everything done to get rid of the Taliban, even teaming up with a drug dealer whom you can get rid of later if you want to.

      Makes me think back to when Reagan thought it was a good idea to give Hussian chemical weapons.
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      • Author by Conchobhar (October 28, 2009 11:36 am ET)
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        CIA has been teaming up with drug dealers for decades. It's always been disastrous, has made for great animosity between CIA and DEA, and may have contributed to deaths of DEA agents.

        If you know an effective way to "get rid of (drug dealers) later if you want to," there's a czar job you should be filling. None of the previous ones have had any success.
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    • Author by fankolet (October 28, 2009 10:04 pm ET)
         
      what is going on with the news in this country?... you know what, Fox News you should put that guy from TMZ, you know the one with the cup, on their shows..he should co-host all the shows there... at least everyone would know that Fox News is just NOT A NEWS NETWORK..
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