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Beck and Monckton agree: "[W]e're in a cooling period"; scientists disagree

October 30, 2009 6:28 pm ET

From the October 30 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

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Media promote claims of global cooling despite overwhelming consensus to the contrary

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    • Author by srichardson (October 30, 2009 6:34 pm ET)
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      Well, if Beck says it's true, we know it's probably not!
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    • Author by mjh (October 30, 2009 6:45 pm ET)
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      Beck and Monckton agree: "[W]e're in our own reality."




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    • Author by Seattlite (October 30, 2009 6:52 pm ET)
         
      I don't take my scientific advice from a "pundit" or a guy that thinks we should have mandatory AIDS testing and isolate and quarantine those infected for life.
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    • Author by open_mind (October 30, 2009 7:09 pm ET)
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      Beck sets up the strawman...

      BECK: "I'm hearing now scientists say that the cooling that is happening only proves how warm it's getting."

      ...and Monckton faithfully knocks it down...

      MONCKTON: "That's right and that makes no sense does it?"

      Now I don't know how stupid this Monckton guy really is, but doesn't it show his utter disdain for intellectual honesty to just cynically pretend that there are really any genuine scientists arguing what Beck claims they are? Seriously?
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    • Author by SLRTX (October 30, 2009 7:14 pm ET)
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      The deniers never rest...

      Here's a link to a great article written by Kyle Swanson (link below). He's the one who's data is being mis-interpreted by deniers as "the earth is cooling down".

      In his own words, the says: "it’s important to note that we are not talking about global cooling, just a pause in warming."

      Of course, you'll see the usual "cherry-picked" data posted by the deniers. And they'll claim it's all a vast conspiracy (that's the only way their "theories" can even work). We've seen them before. I can name them, but you'll know who they are soon.

      The nice thing about real science is, apparent inconsistencies in the data are not "hidden". Otherwise, Swanson's work would have been "hidden". Instead, it's out in the open for all to see. The fact is, real scientists don't see this as changing the facts regarding AGW - even Swanson.

      Swanson's article:
      http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/07/warminginterrupted-much-ado-about-natural-variability/

      A great site that summarizes the deniers claims, and counters with the evidence:
      http://www.skepticalscience.com/
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      • Author by SLRTX (October 30, 2009 7:15 pm ET)
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        Correction:

        In his own words, he says: "it's important to note that we are not talking about global cooling, just a pause in warming."
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    • Author by MickD (October 30, 2009 7:38 pm ET)
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      Becky is like a record on repeat. The corporationalists send him a list and when he's done he just goes back to the top.
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (October 30, 2009 9:14 pm ET)
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        Well it's been in the eighties and nineties here in New Orleans recently...but this afternoon I went to a movie and when I got out it was raining and the temperature had dropped considerably. So I guess these guys are correct...it is getting cooler. ;>)
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    • Author by dnbrn (October 30, 2009 9:12 pm ET)
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      So, now, Beck must wear glasses as a prop to imply to his blithering fans that he is intellectual....does't that also imply elitism? After all, Fox opinionators all equate advanced education with liberalism and elitism...
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    • Author by John Paradox (October 30, 2009 11:11 pm ET)
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      We're in a cooling period

      It's called Winter (currently Fall or Autumn, technically)
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (October 31, 2009 4:36 pm ET)
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      Beck and Monckton agree: "[W]e're in a cooling period"; scientists disagree

      Really! Global climate model projections of future climate most often have used estimates of greenhouse gas emissions from the IPCC models that are also used to help investigate the causes of recent climate change by comparing the observed changes to those that the models project from various natural and human-derived causes. Although these models do not unambiguously attribute the warming that occurred from approximately 1910 to 1945 to either natural variation or human effects, they do indicate that the warming since 1970 is dominated by man-made greenhouse gas emissions.
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      • Author by gpp (November 01, 2009 9:26 pm ET)
           
        Monckton makes a compelling argument. People should take the time to watch his full presentation. Here is the real question, if the earth is a little warmer from whatevdr reason do greenhouse trap this heat in the atmosphere creating a vicious cycle. Nah. It gets warmer during the day and when the Sun goes down it gets colder. The extra warming vents into space. You see it happen nightly.

        And besides, the earth is getting some real cooling. Germany had the lowest October temperatures ever recorded for the month, so did Chicago and Denver.
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      • Author by gpp (November 02, 2009 10:45 am ET)
           
        The earth is in an interglacial period, so for the past 11,000 years there has been warming from the last ice age. There were many times when it was warmer than today, in the Bronze Age, the Roman period, the Medieval period. Temperatures rise and fall. Man prospered in all these warming periods.

        The earth has been warming since the 1700s, as we came out of a cold period called the Little Ice Age. This warming has not been because of man but from natural forces.

        For the past decade there has been no overall warming. Since 2002 there has been a general cooling trend, which is contrary to the man made global warming theory. Why temperatures would cool when CO2 is increasing can easily make one skeptical of the AGW theory.

        According to the UAH, temperatures in June were only .001C above the mean of the last 30 years, and they were colder than the temperatures found in 1979. Last temperatures are .4C above the mean. It is hard to think that a .4C temperature change above the mean of the last 30 years is anything to panic about.

        The trend is for cooling temperatures. The oceans are cooling slightly, Polar ice is increasing in both the Arctic and Antarctic, global hurricane intensity is today at a 50 year low. There are several times more polar bears today than the 1950s. Sea levels have not risen for several years.

        All this doomsday fear is just that, doomsday fear. The IPCC predictions are not coming true, natural forces are the great driver of climate, not mad, since CO2 is going up yet temperatures, polar ice, and hurricanes are not following the model.

        more information on www.isthereglobalwarming.com
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