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They decide: Fox News VP Sammon excommunicates Scozzafava from GOP, says she's "for all practical purposes a Democrat"

November 02, 2009 10:25 am ET

From the November 2 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom:

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (November 02, 2009 10:27 am ET)
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      Is Bill Hemmer a "news" reader...or a journalist? Or is he from the "opinion" side of FOX?

      What about Bill Sammon?
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      • Author by achorn316 (November 02, 2009 10:44 am ET)
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        at Fox there is no difference.
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      • Author by John Paradox (November 02, 2009 2:19 pm ET)
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        Mentioning 'news reader' reminds me of many 'reporters/journalists' at some local radio stations. There was/is a common situation where the 'newsman/woman' does what's called "Rip and Read".. they simply take the news story (used to be off the 'teletype') and read it verbatim.

        Maybe we should refer to Faux News/Neocon anchors as "Read and Rip" since they generally regurgitate 'talking points'

        Just sayin'...
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      • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (November 02, 2009 8:09 pm ET)
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        What about Bill Sammon?

        Sammons is identified in the clip as the vice-president of News Here he is, as usual, commenting with opinion.
        Anyone care to see what his official Fox job description looks like?
        Is Bill Hemmer a "news" reader...or a journalist? Or is he from the "opinion" side of FOX?

        Is this news or opinion? This is the most frequent question on many threads about Fox recently, as it should be. The distinction is crucial.
        In fact this five word question needs to target Fox like a laser where ever it goes. The question cuts through the rhetoric to get to a central point, i.e. the journalistic paradigm at Fox erases the distinction between news and opinion so that Fox viewers are fed a constant homogeneous mixture that reinforces a conservative alternate reality where fact and fiction, news and opinion are are all indistinguishable.

        This accounts for the frustrating cloak of invulnerability we encounter in futile attempts to debate Foxers on these threads.
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    • Author by RKAllen (November 02, 2009 10:38 am ET)
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      "She supported the stimulus. Virtually all of the Republican caucus was unified in opposing the stimulus. So she is way out of lockstep there..." Bill Sammon
      Excuse me... "lockstep." Are you serious... "lockstep." How is anyone following "lockstep" with their chosen party in any way shape or form a value that the American people believe in. He even seemed nervous using this term when he was saying it.
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      • Author by achorn316 (November 02, 2009 10:44 am ET)
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        He misspoke. He meant goose-step.
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        • Author by wzwriter (November 02, 2009 12:13 pm ET)
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          Someone made an error translating his cue cards from the original German....
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          • Author by Conchobhar (November 02, 2009 3:22 pm ET)
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            Calling Stewart and Colbert!! Cannot wait to see what they do with this.
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        • Author by skatscan5624 (November 03, 2009 7:47 am ET)
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          Lockstep is enough of a simile to goosestep to prove that even the right wing admits they're comfortable with fascism.
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    • Author by marco21 (November 02, 2009 11:05 am ET)
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      Big Tent Party? Er, sure guys.
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      • Author by shaggles (November 02, 2009 11:08 am ET)
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        Yep. Just what I was thinking.
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        • Author by wzwriter (November 02, 2009 12:14 pm ET)
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          It's sad when a fake news organization and a blow-hard talk show host are determining who is or is not a Republican.....
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          • Author by mjh (November 02, 2009 1:31 pm ET)
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            "It's sad when a fake news organization and a blow-hard talk show host are determining who is or is not a Republican...."




            It is -- but, sadly, not unheard of:

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            [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ea7CdiFXB-c/SkL6iG1pNyI/AAAAAAAAAI8/R59SdBPEQyE/s400/mark+sanford+on+fox.jpg]


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    • Author by jbrantow (November 02, 2009 11:05 am ET)
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      So apparently this "fair and balanced" channel will give equal treatment in demonizing joe lieberman for saying he will endorse rethugs. Ha what pathetic hypocrites...you know they'll cheer lieberman with rants about freedom of speech and choice.
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    • Author by gratefulbeauty (November 02, 2009 11:06 am ET)
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      No desire to think for oneself? Join the Republican Party!
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    • Author by liberalXtian (November 02, 2009 12:00 pm ET)
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      Yes blame the woman when she divorces an abusive, cheating husband.

      Ms Scozzafava has been a loyal republican for decades and served her party well in the NYS Assembly and as a mayor of a small town (I thought that that got you VP spot in the Republican party?) She has always been a fiscal conservative and a moderate (not a bad word Rush) in some areas. After accepting her party's nod to run for Congress in NY 23 (when it was refused by many in the local party), she was attacked by outsiders who care nothing, and totally lack any knowledge of the needs of this district (Yes, I live in NY 23 and had always planned to vote for Owens), told she was not really a member of a party she served faithfully all her life, and finally forced out of the race by party leaders who 2 months ago did not even know who she was and can still not pronounce her name (but that's fine, these wingnuts thought they could pronounce Justice Sotomayor's name anyway they wanted because it was more American).

      You should all check out MSNBC's website and check out the video of Laurence O'Donnell on Morning Joe. He know's more about this district than any of the local tea baggers here.
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    • Author by gs-425 (November 02, 2009 12:13 pm ET)
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      You need a network VP to tell you that? Anybody that looked at here positions on issues and who she's married to can tell you she's a friggin dumocrat.
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      • Author by liberalXtian (November 02, 2009 12:59 pm ET)
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        She was suported by the NRA before dropping out and has always voted with state Republicans on fiscal issues. How does that make her a Democrat? She may switch parties to the derision and scorn of those who don't even know her, but if losing an intelligent, knowledgeable, and hard working public servant helps the Republicans, I hope they lose more.

        Her endorsement of Owens, the Democrat, may have some sour grapes quality to it, but only makes sense for a public servant who actually cares about her district. Hoffmann is a one-note ideologue who knows nothing of local issues, and has made little comment about world affairs, though I believe he can see Canada from the front porch of his home which is in a district actually south of the district he is running in.
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    • Author by thundavolt (November 02, 2009 3:20 pm ET)
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      And how is this not being the mouth piece of the right. They are doing the usual clean up job on her. Lately this has been failing as more people have been willing to fight back and hard.
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    • Author by Marge (November 02, 2009 7:35 pm ET)
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      Wait a minute. They all day yesterday ran the scroll...Scozzafava had dropped out of the race to make run for Hoffman. Now if they are giving her credit for helping Hoffman, why would they change their story today..I know I know, because they realize that by now, people know she is supporting the democrat. And the scroll was a dirty low down lie. But what do you expect...it came from Fox.
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    • Author by dave (November 03, 2009 12:19 pm ET)
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      If what Sammon said about Scozzafava is true, then she is a for all practical purposes a Democrat. If she does not believe in what the GOP issues are, then why should the right support her? Because of the "R" in front of her name? IMO, this is a thread because MMFA would like a moderate R rather than a Conservative. Lesser of two evils.
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    • Author by caveman (November 03, 2009 2:34 pm ET)
         
      UNINTENTIONAL IRONY OF THE DAY DEPARTMENT:

      "He basically supports mainline Republican positions. He's not some sort of wingnut crazy."
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