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O'Reilly says NJ governors race is a referendum on Obama, but 60 percent of voters say otherwise

November 03, 2009 8:26 pm ET

From the November 3 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:

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Media in 2001: Off-year elections have little national significance

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (November 03, 2009 10:31 pm ET)
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      Just make stuff up...that's FOX.

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    • Author by Tbone Slickens (November 03, 2009 10:35 pm ET)
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      You keep telling yourselves that. Keep repeating over and over. "It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter"...

      Ed Schultz doesn't agree with your assessment. He doesn't have his monologue up on his website yet but just take a gander at his opening piece!

      It also explains the long faces and dire looks of Tweety and David Gregory on his show tonight.

      Remember. IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER
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      • Author by mjh (November 04, 2009 1:45 am ET)
           
        You keep telling yourselves that. Keep repeating over and over. "It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter"...



        No problem -- 'cause I'm sure that's what you're saying about Democrat Bill Owens winning in a heavily GOP congressional district in NY.

        Right, T-boned?
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        • Author by Tbone Slickens (November 04, 2009 8:58 am ET)
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          That was a toss up. The conservative came in late. The RINO threw her support behind the Dem so it could have shook out either way. The message was clear though on the Republicans part. Good win for you though. I'd rather have the high profile Gov races go as they did and lose that one if I had to pick. Would have been nice for the trifecta though. :)
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          • Author by mjh (November 04, 2009 12:42 pm ET)
               
            "High profile Gov. races"?

            ROFL!!

            Since when is a STATE governorship more "high profile" than a US CONGRESSIONAL race? Only in wingnut world!

            But, like you said, t-boned -- keep telling yourself that: two governor's races in an off-year are a "preview" of the '12 presidential race . . . and, I suppose the '06 midterms -- which Bubble Boy Bush HIMSELF described as a "thumpin'" weren't a preview of the '08 presidential race, hmmmm?

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      • Author by bintx (November 04, 2009 9:30 am ET)
           
        Actually, it didn't matter. Corzine was unpopular BEFORE Obama was elected. Corzine lost because Corzine lost. The referendum was about Corzine, the exit polls clearly showed that. In Virginia, the voters just followed historical precedent. There was no referendum . . . the exit polls clearly showed that the voters did NOT vote against Obama. He's still very popular in Virginia.

        The only true referendum was in NY-23 . . . the voters refused to vote for Beck's protege, a carpetbagger who received 90% of his funding from OUTSIDE the district, most of it from folks like Palin, Beck, Bachmann, et al. The conservatives in NY-23 decided that they really DON'T like the wack-job, phony conservatives trying to take over their government.

        Use your brain, T-bone, I'm sure if you try really hard, you can figure it out.
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        • Author by Tbone Slickens (November 04, 2009 9:55 am ET)
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          NY-23 a "true" referendum? Maybe. I'll just point out that Hoffman lost by six thousand votes. The RINO that quit the race but was still on the ballot garnered six thousand votes. That can easily be accounted for people who voted party line or who weren't paying attention (that would be hard to believe though).

          So your theory isn't sound (wishful thinking maybe) on the facts of the actual vote tallies or the fact of the matter. Hoffman entered the race late and made HUGE gains. Given the time it may have turned out different. You knew all this though bix...I'll take the Gov races in solid blue states over a backwater red county any day!

          I wouldn't throw the carpetbagger tag out too much though as our current SoS was the most famous Carpetbagger of all time!
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    • Author by mjh (November 04, 2009 1:24 am ET)
         
      O'Reilly says NJ governors race is a referendum on Obama, but 60 percent of voters say otherwise



      Welcome to PLANET WINGNUT!!

      . . . where an off-year gubenatorial race is a referendum on a president in office for ten months . . .

      . . . but, the 2006 congressional midterms -- where the Democrats regained the majority after twelve years and not a single incumbent Dem up for reelection lost their seat -- "was not a commentary on Bush's performance" . . .

      Enjoy your stay!



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    • Author by Sharpe (November 04, 2009 1:37 am ET)
         
      Yeaaa, this is showing support for obama right? It has nothing to do with the tanking of the NJ economy and widespread unemployment in the state or the general dissatisfaction with Corzine. Why would we New Jersey people actually consider who we are voting for when we vote? iTS not the person but the party right? Think again. Maybe at FOX news all republicans are right and all dems are wrong but here in NJ, we actually think first. Corzine was unpopular and his HUGE connection with goldman sachhs being CEO and 400 million from them later and his status as one of the richest people in the state certainly did not help him after the financial crisis The polls showed he was highly unpopular from the start - his approval rating was low almost from the beginning. NJ actually petitioned for a governor recall for the first time in history. Corzine cut funding to popular proogram, instituted extremely unpopular cuts to benefits and employee protections, raised tuition at state institutions, cut rutgers classes and teams, HE SUPPORTED CLINTON OVER OBAMA which I also dont think NJ liked in general. He wanted to raise tolls prices and suffered a government shutdown after clashing with his own party in the NJ assembly. He signed an order to shutdown state run businesses during the fight which led to millions in losses for the state revenue each day for six days. His nomination for state attorney general resigned amid controversy. But im sure none of this has to do with him losing. I mean its all about obama.
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    • Author by Sharpe (November 04, 2009 1:51 am ET)
         
      Also, Christie is not even all that right. He does not completely oppose abortion and will not interfere with nJ laws and his running mate supports abortion rights. He agrees with civil unions in NJ. He does not think being an immigrant without documentation is a prosecutable offense. He is for strict gun control. He believes in government investing in alternative energy sources. He supports state funded vouters and merit pay for teachers. He has cracked down on government corruption which is not really a liberal agenda but I think a positive point. Christie also had won almost every poll in the campaign from september on - him not winning would be surprising.
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    • Author by Sharpe (November 04, 2009 1:54 am ET)
         
      NJ is liberal but republicans win here a lot -
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      • Author by bintx (November 04, 2009 9:32 am ET)
           
        Christine Todd Whitman was the Republican governor of NJ from 1994 to 2002.
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