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Fox News' Hume acknowledges, "Barack Obama was not a central issue" in New Jersey gubernatorial race

November 03, 2009 11:27 pm ET

From Fox News' November 3 election coverage:

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Media in 2001: Off-year elections have little national significance

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    • Author by jbraskin4786 (November 04, 2009 12:13 am ET)
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      Are they on some sort of an honesty kick at Fox?
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    • Author by MissDee (November 04, 2009 12:15 am ET)
         
      How many times have you people claimed Brit Hume (one of my favorite journalists, btw) has no cerdibility, but you jump on this. The fact is that MMFA is totally selective according to your warped agenda in what you say. If he's so lacking in credibility most of the time, why would you believe him when he says something that supports your agenda? the left's hypocrisy shines through. AND I bet you wont' publish this comment. You've been squelching everything I've said for months now. What's the matter? Media Matters can't handle truth or stand to see their image in the mirror when it's held up for all to see?
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    • Author by DAWUSS (November 04, 2009 12:38 am ET)
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      Hannity says otherwise.
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      • Author by soze169880 (November 04, 2009 12:53 am ET)
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        If someone, somewhere is speaking the truth, of course Hannity says otherwise.
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      • Author by bintx (November 04, 2009 10:14 am ET)
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        Yeah, well Eddie Munster isn't known for his close relationship with veracity.
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    • Author by Curtis650 (November 04, 2009 12:48 am ET)
         
      Can you put the video up tonight of Bob Beckel smacking down Bill Kristol as Kristol was trying to gush about tonight's big win? It was on Fox News about 50 minutes ago.. about 8:55 PST
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    • Author by mwjarv (November 04, 2009 1:49 am ET)
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      More importantly the Democrat candidate defeated the Conservative party candidate in New York's 23rd district showing that, for the most part, Americans do not want the far right fringe in charge of policy in this country.
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (November 04, 2009 2:48 am ET)
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        That is a very huge deal, which-- of course-- is being ignored in all of the MSM "great night for Republicans" headlines.
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        • Author by worrierking (November 04, 2009 7:20 am ET)
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          You're right Carlileb & MW.

          As Tip O'Neil said, "All politics is local". The VA & NJ governors races were local referendums, having little to do with the Obama administration. Times are hard and people voted against the party of the incumbent. It will have little effect on the president.

          Here in NJ, we have a habit of electing one party for eight years, then the other for the next eight years. Even when we do elect a Republican governor, we usually elect a moderate. In fact if the last two Republican Governors of New Jersey were running for office, they'd be driven out of the Republican Party. Both Christie Whitman and Thomas Kean were centrists. Neither wore god on their sleeve or used divisive issues to get elected or to govern. I'm sure Christie will be similar.

          The race in NY's 23rd district was different because national, far right conservatives interfered in a local race. They supported someone who did not understand the needs of the people he wanted to represent.

          The will of the local Republican Party was overruled by unelected, self serving, Republican personalities like Palin and Pawlenty.



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          • Author by fairliberal (November 04, 2009 9:36 am ET)
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            Of course, I get it. The races that Repubs won are not important, its only the races that the dems won that are important. Great reasoning. Corzine himself spoke of how important the NJ govs race was, he commented about the frequency of Obama's visits and support, remember that?

            What is important is that the voters are beginning to see the mistake that was made in 2008 , and are beginning to take the steps to correct it.

            But you can go on thinking that these results are of no importance.
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            • Author by worrierking (November 04, 2009 9:50 am ET)
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              Corzine has never been well liked here. Christie did not run as a teabagger. He did not run as an opponent of abortion, gay rights, illegal aliens, health care reform or any of the other key issues important to the teabbaging fanatics.

              The only race in which those elements came into play was the NY 23rd district congressional election. And those national figures, who appeal to the rightwingnuttery, are responsible for the Republicans losing the only race with national importance.

              Neither Christie nor McDonnell will have a say in heath care reform or any of the other issues of national importance.
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            • Author by bintx (November 04, 2009 10:22 am ET)
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              Use your brain, hon.

              Corzine was unpopular BEFORE Obama was elected. The exit polls showed that people still like Obama and that their vote against Corzine was simply a vote against him. Totally irrelevant to the whole political club rivalry. Contrary to the spin, it was not unprecedented that a Republican would win in NJ. Christine Todd Whitman was the Republican governor of NJ from 1994 to 2001.

              The Virginia race simply followed historical precedent. In every post presidential election since the last 1970s, the newly elected governor of Virginia in the following year has been of the OPPOSITE party of the president. Again, the exit polls indicated that the voters are still very positive about Obama and that their votes were not indictments of Obama.

              The reason the election in NY-23 is significant is that there had been NO Democratic representative elected from that district in 130+ years. When Palin, Beck, Bachmann, etc., decided that the RNC candidate wasn't "conservative" enough, they threw their support to the Conservative Party candidate. So, you had a "Conservative" candidate running for representative in an UBER-Conservative district where no Democrat had won for 130+ years who had the support and financial backing of some of the biggest names in the phony conservative line-up, and guess what? The Democrat won. That's news.

              Try learning something by turning off Fox. You aren't getting news there.
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            • Author by mwjarv (November 05, 2009 8:29 pm ET)
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              I hate it when people do not read what was actually written in my original posting. Nowhere do I indicate that the fact that two republicans are now governors is not important, it is. Though, as a Virginian, I know that the state is historically red so this does not surprise me really. I was pretty amazed when Tim Kane won four years ago to be fair. As I said earlier, though, what is significant is that the idea of a conservative party did not fly. Voters in this congressional district who tend towards being republicans decided against moving to the fringe, that is the point I made. Since none of these races happened in 2008 I am not sure what your second point is, unless it is a veiled allusion to the President. If so, I suggest you check out off year elections during Bush's term... I seem to recall him getting a second term, something about a "mandate" or something? Or, is your scope on history merely limited to this odd idea that there is some sort of game to be won and a paranoia that one, large group of citizens wants to destroy the country?
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    • Author by Sharpe (November 04, 2009 2:26 am ET)
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      Again, christie is not really all that conservative whatsoever. It was more so that corzine did really badly and christie is a new face that is almost centrist by his political views. I dont think this at all impacts the healthcare debate. Corzine did badly in a bad economy with horrible unemployment. This has little if ANYTHING to do with obama. If anything obama slightly helped corzine or didnt impact it at all. NJ was very much in support of obama and many still are. They just are fed up with corzine. I think the government shutdown in NJ for six days and the plan to hike up tolls are what killed corzine. His connections to wall street and massive wealth also make him look worse in this financial collapse led by his ex employer Goldman sacks of which he was CEO. Does FOX even mention he was CEO of goldman and got 300 million from them after he left? Of course not. He also did many other unpopular things in this state. He was generally disliked. This showed in the pools all the way from 2006.
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (November 04, 2009 2:51 am ET)
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        Right-- it was personality issues, not politics. And he only lost by 4 points. Wow.

        Love all this MSM talk about GOP governors' "sweep" tonight, too. Like how many seats were there? Two?
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        • Author by fairliberal (November 04, 2009 9:40 am ET)
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          That's 2 out of 2 , a sweep. And he lost by 4 points in a heavily democratic state, quite a turn around. I guess the voters didn't really care what Obama thought.
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          • Author by bintx (November 04, 2009 10:30 am ET)
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            Fairliberal, try getting the whole picture by turning off Fox and quit listening to the spin.

            You are aware that Christine Todd Whitman, a REPUBLICAN was governor of NJ from 1994-2001, right? I realize that the below link is from Wikipedia, which is not a great source, but this is simply a list of Governors of NJ. You'll note that there have been MANY Republican governors of that "heavily democratic state."

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Governors_of_New_Jersey

            The exit polls in both VA and NJ indicated that the voters were not voting against Obama and that he is still quite popular in both of those states.

            SPIN . . . that's what you're listening to, fairliberal. Your hero is the biggest spinner on Fox.
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          • Author by juliajayne1 (November 04, 2009 11:34 am ET)
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            Faux lib, Corzine's favoribility ratings were in the 30's. The fact that he got alot higher percentage of the votes than his favoribility ratings means something.

            As for Obama's favoribility ratings (from CNN) in NJ, it's 57%. And Obama won 57.1% of the vote last year at this time. So this is no referendum on Obama, as many have pointed out.

            Likewise in VA, the president's favoribility rating is currently 51%, and he carried VA with 52.6% of the vote from last year at this time. Again, hardly any sort of referendum.

            Exit polling also indicated strongly that these elections were not about Obama.
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    • Author by Sharpe (November 04, 2009 2:28 am ET)
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      They are right in that its amazing how well corzine did. It is a testament to how democratic leaning this state is. We would consider voting back in a democrat who we don't like to avoid a moderate republican who we don't know.
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      • Author by MaineiacMan (November 04, 2009 7:12 am ET)
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        This is news? I used to enjoy Brit Hume when he was anchor of the 6 o'clock news hour. I still enjoy his commentary as a guest.
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    • Author by jjamele2880 (November 04, 2009 7:14 am ET)
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      Scarborough this morning: "Remember in that movie, where the asteroid was about to hit the Earth, and Bruce Willis, just before he died, set off that bomb and Boom! Earth was saved? That's what happened in New York City last night. New York almost went somewhere we haven't seen since David Dinkins."

      Co-host: "Saved at the last minute."

      Yes, because Bill Thompson being elected Mayor of NYC would have been like an asteroid wiping out all life on Earth. NYC has been "saved" at the last minute from having a black mayor.

      These people are repulsive.
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      • Author by Boxer1979 (November 04, 2009 7:25 am ET)
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        Joe Scarborough was riding Michael Bloomberg's privates! Did he mention NY-23? and the dysfunction of the far-reich?
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (November 04, 2009 9:37 am ET)
           
        Scarborough this morning: "Remember in that movie, where the asteroid was about to hit the Earth, and Bruce Willis, just before he died, set off that bomb and Boom! Earth was saved?"
        Wasn't that the plot of The Fifth Element? Willis didn't die in that movie, it ended with him screwing Milla Jovovich. Considering Willis' politics, and what was said about Representative Helen Chenoweth, perhaps it is possible for one to f*** ones' brains out.
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        • Author by DellDolly (November 04, 2009 11:33 am ET)
             
          There was a movie with Bruce Willis with that exact plot mentioned in the box above. I believe it was called "Armageddon", and his daughter was Liv Tyler and her boyfriend was Ben Affleck.
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (November 04, 2009 7:21 am ET)
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      Fox News' Hume acknowledges, "Barack Obama was not a central issue" in New Jersey gubernatorial race

      No Corizine really did badly in New Jersey and people were fed up with him. Really the bigger issue was NY-23. A democrat won there for the first time in over a 100 years. Thst just shows the dysfunction in the right and the failure of a candidate who supported Glen Beck!
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (November 04, 2009 7:21 am ET)
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      But if Barack Obama was not THE central issue in these elections then FOX could have shut down for the evening and showed Ollie North reruns. FOX is invested in everything Obama.
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