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After teasing report on energy, Fox plays "If we had some global warming, it wouldn't be twenty below" as bumper music

November 05, 2009 9:51 am ET

From the November 5 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom:

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    • Author by pilotshark (November 05, 2009 9:58 am ET)
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      fix news has a IQ 20 below the kelvin scale went it comes to science , well history,, awww every thing in general
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    • Author by The_Cat (November 05, 2009 10:11 am ET)
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      Nikola Tesla was working on free energy distribution at Wardenclyffe Tower. J.P. Morgan only cared about having one question answered: Where can I put the meter? When Tesla had no answer, Mr. Morgan lost all interest.

      This little anecdote tells you all you need to know about corporate interest in green energy. "If America's homes have solar panels and wind turbines and other green energy sources, if America's cars run on renewable bio-energy or batteries, where will we put the meter?" They don't care about global warming, and their opposition to it is pure opportunism. They fund scientists to claim it is a hoax for the simple purpose of muddying the waters and prolonging the debate while they continue to pump oil from the ground.
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    • Author by SLRTX (November 05, 2009 10:19 am ET)
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      Hey, I can do this too!

      Here's a good song that applies to AGW deniers.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOKK8mAkiUI
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    • Author by worrierking (November 05, 2009 10:21 am ET)
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      It's ironic that last night on the Planet Green network, they ran a segment about how News Corpse was trying to attain a carbon neutral footprint. They're doing whatever they can to be entirely carbon neutral. It's impossible to achieve that but they want to get as close to zero as is possible. And they're also buying carbon credits from a wind farm in South America to offset their carbon output.

      They were talking about how important it is to do their part to attempt to slow global warming.

      On a daily basis, they twist the scientific consensus, and tell their viewers that worrying about global climate change is crazy at the same time corporate policy is to not only believe in the science but to work towards complying with their corporate green policies.

      This is proof that Fox does not believe what it is selling their gullible viewers.
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    • Author by SLRTX (November 05, 2009 10:31 am ET)
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      Fox and the AGW deniers will have you think that "cap and trade" is this totally new concept that is "unproven".

      Beg to differ. It's been applied successfully to control acid rain for many years. The method has a proven track-record.

      http://www.epa.gov/airmarkt/cap-trade/docs/ctresults.pdf
      http://www.epa.gov/airmarkets/progsregs/arp/index.html
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf5tld59IGQ
      http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Presence-of-Mind-Blue-Sky-Thinking.html
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    • Author by New Frontier (November 05, 2009 10:50 am ET)
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      This is FOX news, not FOX opinion. That's why this news show would never, ever take a partisan position on an issue...
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      • Author by New Frontier (November 05, 2009 11:05 am ET)
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        By the way:

        FOX viewers who enjoyed If we had some global warming, it wouldn't be twenty below, might also enjoy the singer's other hit, If the Earth is Really Spinnin', How Come I Ain't Flyin' Off?"
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        • Author by John Paradox (November 05, 2009 2:10 pm ET)
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          The Earth spinning is a good thing, otherwise all the Chinese would fall off.

          Then where would we get our crappy Wal-Mart stuff?
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        • Author by Canadian Observer (November 05, 2009 4:27 pm ET)
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          Hopefully the Barenaked Ladies sue.
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    • Author by christopher howard (November 05, 2009 11:17 am ET)
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      Yes, this is Fox NEWS. Not one of their opinion shows. Straight down the middle, just the facts, that's Fox NEWS.
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    • Author by captfoster2 (November 05, 2009 12:18 pm ET)
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      For what its worth...

      I often wonder if the whole argument trying to exclaim that global warming is real, is the wrong tactic to use?? While agree that global warming is real, it is easily disputed with childish and rather pathetic attacks by right-wing morons who know quite well that their followers/listeners do not have the brain capacity to see the reality.

      With that said... would it not be better to argue the common sense approach by simply explaining that oil and coal will not be around forever and that solar, winds, water, and geo-thermal will be??

      Saying something to the effect of "Lets assume that global warming really is false and not real but..."

      Getting into science can be confusing for many. Lets face it, I watched "An Inconvenient Truth" and I agree with it wholly, but some of the science that Al Gore spoke about was over my head (and I'm a 3.35 GPA, IQ of around 138)... but I understood more or less what he was talking about.

      Not everyone has the ability to see the common sense of situations either, unless it is told to them at a grade school level.

      I wonder if it is time for those of us who know the truth to spread the reality by explaining that oil and coal will eventually dissapear at some point, whether 2 years or 200 years should make no difference and that, as I said just above, solar, wind, water, and geo-thermal will be there forever (and their cleaner) and by mentioning future generatations, perhaps we can finally break through those people's thick skulls??
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      • Author by gpp (November 05, 2009 12:31 pm ET)
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        Global temperatures have not been warming for fifteen years.

        Global temperatures have been cooling since 2002.

        US temperatures in 2008 were below the average of the last 115 years.

        US Summer temperatures in 2009 were the 34th coolest in 115 years.

        Antarctica with 90% of the worlds land ice had the most sea ice ever recorded in 2008

        The Arctic has 24% more sea ice in September 2009 than September 2007.

        Germany recorded its lowest October temperature ever recorded last month.

        CO2 continues to rise, yet temperatures are cooling, why is this?

        CO2 can not cause temperatures to rise by itself more than 1.5C even if it doubles or triples in volume. CO2s ability to absorb heat is logarithmic, meaning the more CO2 there is the less heat it can absorb.

        The earth has been warming in general since the last ice age 11,000 years ago. Any extra heat simply radiates back into space. You notice this happening every evening when the heat of the day drops as the Sun goes down.

        Decreasing solar activity is causing the temperatures to drop. Almost 100% of the heat comes from the Sun, it is there that science must look.

        see it all here www.isthereglobalwarming.com

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      • Author by gpp (November 05, 2009 12:33 pm ET)
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        If you want to learn the truth about man made global warming watch this film.

        Your text to link here...
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        • Author by SLRTX (November 05, 2009 3:15 pm ET)
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          The "swindle" tries to swindle.

          http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/03/swindled/

          http://www.duke.edu/web/nicholas/bio217/tls14/general.html
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          • Author by SLRTX (November 05, 2009 3:30 pm ET)
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            Actually, I ENCOURAGE all to view the "swindle", but after viewing it, go to the links I provided to check their claims.

            Please, by all means, be my guest. See how the denier's claims fall flat.

            http://www.garagetv.be/video-galerij/blancostemrecht/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle_Documentary_Film.aspx
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      • Author by SLRTX (November 05, 2009 2:36 pm ET)
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        captfoster2 --

        You bring up a good point about this stuff going over people's heads. I agree.

        But some of the issue is that people are just stubborn, and just plain refuse to accept anything but their own cherry-picked crap. Just take a look at what gpp keeps posting. Cherry-picked pseudoscience.

        The sites listed below are pretty good sources of understanding climate change.

        My advice to anyone is to review the evidence in parts:

        1. Is it warming? Look at the charts from NASA.
        2. What is causing the warming? Look at the case for the link to CO2.
        3. Is global warming caused by us (is it "anthropogenic")?
        4. What is the consensus among scientists on points 1-3?

        From this point on, it's just a matter of what the effects are or can be - ice melting, ocean levels rising, etc. That you can research on your own.

        Deniers mix up the effects with the realities of warming (points 1-4), and the throw in political issues to try to confuse people (Al Gore, IPCC, conspiracies, UN global domination, some scientists disagree, name calling, etc.).

        Just focus on points 1-4 when you review the links below.

        http://www.skepticalscience.com/
        http://climate.nasa.gov/
        http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/12/1206_041206_global_warming.html
        http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11462-climate-change-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.html

        Consensus
        http://sciencepoliticsclimatechange.blogspot.com/2006/08/role-of-consensus-in-science.html
        http://www.ucsusa.org/ssi/climate-change/scientific-consensus-on.html
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        • Author by gpp (November 05, 2009 3:40 pm ET)
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          Slirtax, you are the only one talking about these points.

          " (Al Gore, IPCC, conspiracies, UN global domination, some scientists disagree, name calling, etc.)."

          I know it hurts, to see that the AGW theory is falling apart. Some desperately cling to it, but Mother Nature is weighing in mightily.

          I am not saying the earth hasn't been warming, it has, since the last ice age 11,000 years ago. The question is what is causing the warming.

          1934 was the warmest year in the USA according to NASA GISS. Five of the ten warmest years were before 1940.

          US rural temperatures are cooler today than those of the 1930s.

          Here are the years of the record high temperatures per continent.

          Europe 1881
          Australia 1889
          South America 1905
          Oceana 1912
          North America 1913
          Africa 1922
          Asia 1942
          Antartica 1974

          What made it so warm then? Well of course, natural causes, not man.

          Antarctica had the most sea ice ever recorded in 2008. Cherry picked data, no way Jose. Fact, not fiction. Antarctica also has 90% of the worlds land ice. The average temperature there is 55 below zero. OUCH. Even if the world did warm a couple of degrees do you think the ice will melt when it is this cold? Besides, the Antarctic ice melts at the bottom, not at the top. Antarctica is the worlds highest continent, averages over 8,000 feet. A mightly cold place with no sunlight for six months of the year.

          I can hear it now, the same ol same ol attacks, cherry picked etc.

          I do like cherries you know.

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