Kilmeade, Johnson want to know if it's time for "special debriefings," "special screenings" of Muslim officers
November 06, 2009 8:34 am ET
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We can go back to McVeigh. Is it time to do special screening and interviews of Christian officers?
I know Tim McVeigh was a badguy, but rural white males (in general) do not think that the USA hates rural white males and that we're warring against them, whereas I think you'd find it awfully close amongst arab muslim men 18-50.
You know... Glenn Beck's audience.
Nadal Hassan, ARAB, MUSLIN, active Military: killed 13.
Yeah... Let's go off the deep end over HASSAN why don't we?
The muslims serving in the US Military are the EXACT OPPOSITE of terrorists. They have decalred their loyalty, and it is with THIS COUNTRY. And they've done so at far greater risk to their own safety, sinc ethey face harrasment from both inside their own community and from rednecks in the military.
Right Wingers on the other hand, have repeatedly and throughout history used their miitary training to further their own facist, political and personal ambitions, violently, after their time in the service is over. And they have also cleary declared THEIR loyalty: And it's AGAINST this country!
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The Right should have at least SOME SHAME in how quickly they're jumping on the biggoted bandwagon here.
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Niceguy Eddie
Actually if they listen to Rush and Beckhannity they will think that the US is being overtaken and turned evil by progressives and liberals who are going against their freedoms and values. Why wouldn't a Hannitybeckbauh ditto head not feel the need at some point to take arms agaists the evil scourge that is libralism and the federal government. It would be their patriotic duty...
Painting all Muslim Arabs with a broad brush belies the fact that much of the fighting and dying in the War on Terror is happening among Muslims. Alienating all of them by assuming they all are potential enemies makes it more difficult for the many Muslims who are also sacrificiing in this struggle against extremism.
Of course, the feel good rhetoric of a simplified world of good guys and bad guys might make our own right wing extremist feel better, but it ignores the reality on the ground and creates enemies we don't have or need to have.
So, Right Wing Fascist Nutsacks like McVeigh can stay... but them Mooslims gotta go!
What are a danger, however, are zealots. So far, I've seen nothing to indicate that Major Hasan was a zealot, but the fear mongers at FOX just can't leave it alone, can they? While I have theological differences with muslims, and most other religions than my own of course, that's only one part of my citizenship in America. Mr. Hasan is also a citizen, and one given the privilege of serving in the military.
As for why he did what he did, FOX is merely speculating, which is foolish bordering on dangerous. I hold terrorists, not muslims, accountable for 9-11, and only a cheap ratings ploy or unfathomable ignorance would explain this attempt at an explanation from FOX. As an example, let's just change their argument. What if Mr. Hasan is left-handed, and that's what they had chosen to focus on? Can you hear Johnson and Kilmeade asking the question? "Is it about time for special screenings for all left-handed members of the military?" How seriously would that be taken? Well, suggesting the same for muslims is just as foolish. Truth is, no one really knows yet why he did what he did.
If so, then maybe the military should follow this nitwits's advice.
If this is an isolated incident, Kilmeade and Johnson should just STFU.
So, 3 that we know of since 2005, 2 perps were Muslim. Not sure if 2/3 is a "pattern" or not, because there were "only" 3 incidents where someone was found to be at-fault.
Do we REALLY think that the military DOESN'T already look harder into the background and the psyche of a practicing-Muslim soldier already? REALLY? To me, this is Fox new just pandering to the uber-right of their audience; any extra screening can be an unmentioned given to the rest of us reasonable people.
I'm all for evicting Religious fanatics from the Military, as long as they get rid of ALL religious fanatics, including Evangelical Nutbag Christians.
Maybe we need to screen people with pickup trucks in Killean, Texas
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Another right wing nut who jumps to conclusions to fit his world view of things
But seriously, my post was tongue-in-cheek..and you decided to call me a "right-wing nut". Stuff like that will lose your candidates a lot of elections in the future...if you ever get out of your basement to rally for them.
Yes...
"I didn't read the article, but just assumed"
Epic troll fail.
Maybe because you were to busy jumping to conclusions to fit your world view.
That'd be 100% of the population, wouldn't it? :-)
Or, if he was, just wait for the fallout from that...
Let's keep in mind a few things:
1) "Muslim" is as misleading as the old idea of 'Communism is monolithic' that was prevalent during the Cold War
2) if the U.S. had to battle, say Germany, would the fact that most Germans belong to one or another Christian sect mean that every Christian had to be verified as 'willing to kill other Christians'?
3) During World War 2, Americans of Japanese descent (who are 'identifiable' unlike, say German-Americans) were rounded up and put in camps, in one of the most ridiculous 'defense' ideas ever. (Also, many Japanese-Americans fought with honor for the US)
Now you are just making things up. Since when was that an issue, especially in the FOX News comments?
"I would hope that if I was in that unit, the Army would have some means to assure me and my fellow soldiers that regardless of our individual beliefs, that we are a fighting unit ready to deploy."
It's called Basic Training.
"Had the Army asked this Major if he had a problem, they might have questioned his readiness."
Considering he was mentally ill, you could be correct. Of course, any mentally ill person might be detected by similar questioning, Muslim or not.