Fox News' Peters calls Muslims "a protected species, a protected minority" in rant about PC culture in Ft. Hood tragedy
November 06, 2009 9:37 pm ET
From the November 6 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:
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That makes Muslims animals.
He's good. Very good.
Peters is just another bigoted idiot. Which of course makes him the perfect choice to be a Fox News Analyst. Excuse me now while I go puke.
Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes are rubbing their hands with glee right about now.
"The sub-human, that biologically seemingly complete similar creation of nature with hands, feet and a kind of brain, with eyes and a mouth, is nevertheless a completely different, dreadful creature. He is only a rough copy of a human being, with human-like facial traits but nonetheless morally and mentally lower" - Nazi propaganda material
Notice the complete similar creation but completely different - which basically means a different species. This dehumanization resulted in gruesome violence and horrific attacks against Jews far before any concentration camp was ever opened or even before ghettos were set up. Horrible thing to treat different people as different creatures.
In contrast to bigoted wingnuts such as Peters, who are an endangered species.
(And, after the 2010 midterm elections, we hope to make them in our gov't an EXTINCT species . . .)
And wait until 2010, it will show just the opposite of what you think. Ask Jon Corzine.
I have family members who are practicing Muslims. They are hardworking AMERICAN MEN AND WOMEN, not an f-ing "species", protected or otherwise.
THAT'S my qualification. What are yours -- besides being a sheep that bleats whatever BS your neoKKKon masters like Peters spews out?
Thought so.
I'd rather ask Bill Owens -- you know, the Democrat who won a House seat [NY-23] previously held by the GOP for 100+ years . . .
BTW, using Corzine as an example is specious. He had no bearing on the federal government. The guy in upstate New York who was backed by the crazies on Fox, Sister Sarah, Rush and Mr. Uber-crazy Beck? Now that's a story. Losing a district which had been a Republican/conservative stronghold since the Civil War . . . pretty telling.
And wait until 2010, it will show just the opposite of what you think. Ask Jon Corzine.
And going to med school while in the service doesn't make it harder, in fact it might be easier. After all the gov't is paying, so the financial worries are taken care of. They cook for you, do your laundry, what else do you need? Nothing to do but study.
If you doubt the man's mental illness, then you must feel he is a terrorist, right?
I guess fairlib does not know that being a Psychiatrist you too need a Psychiatrist. It is part of understanding your patients before practicing, plus it is common in that profession.
My attempt to understand what really happened is mainly so that the military and associated institutions can try to learn from this tragedy in the hopes that they can prevent something similar in the future.
Terrorism is not really so clearly defined. What is almost universally agreed upon is that their must be some ideology behind a terrorist attack - a broader position he was trying to take a stand for using violence and fear as weapons to assault the country's spirit. But we have no idea yet what his purpose was for these acts so it is impossibly to say this was terrorism. He was born in this country and his background alone means nothing to me. There are thousands of brave American soldiers in Afghanistan write now who are Muslim. It would be a tremendous disservice on the honor of those soldiers abroad to attack this shooter based on his ethnicity or religion alone.
Im sure they have to do more in the military than just go to school. Don't they continue to have drills and keep in shape and do whatevrer the rest of the military must do while they are in school. I dont know but i assume so. Either way, I really don't think this was some sort of master plan he had before he joined- I think as a direct result of his experiences while in the army did he decide to commit murder and I won't speculate any more as to why except to say we should not be overwhelmingly discussing his background before we even know anything.
If he had such mental instability all along why wasn't he in psychological therapy? Why weren't soldiers more concerned over such behavior? Im not buying what they are trying to selling that this was some radical terrorist act. I think this was more like oolumbine and virginia tech where the motivation was largely due to bullying, harassment, isolation as being different and progressively growing mental instability that resulted in a sudden burst of violence.
The real scandal in this case is not religious, but how troubled soldiers (of all races and creeds) are not properly screened and treated.
Yea, bill's veiwers think this was Islamic terrorists because they are ignorant of anything based in reality. The rest of us are trying to piece together his motivation. Of course he should get a life-sentence when found guilty but the important thing is how we correct this to prevent it in the future. Obviously, the motivation is essential in trying to determine a course of action. Apparently, the guest doesn't see it this way in the slightest.
Lets compare their service , Peters enlisted, went to OCS, served in Military Intelligence and served for a total of 22 years and retired as a Lt Col.
MarKOS served for 4 years, and never made attained any significant rank.
So who is the twit and who is the American hero?
There's an open field for these nuts to pick and choose whomever they wish to support their talking points of the moment.
Gotta love wingnuts -- military service by a progressive is NEVER good enough for them . . .
If they're not accusing Democratic veterans of faking their own war injuries {Kerry and Cleland}, they're saying their service wasn't long enough {Markos Moulitsas} . . .
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Oh, and as for Markos, personally, I think he's a twit, too.
What Nidal Hasan did is monstrous. There's nothing that can be said to excuse his actions.
But, we do need to see of there are any circumstances that could have been the catalyst to what he did. If nothing else than to learn from what happened, so it won't be repeated.
To assume Muslims in the military are treated better than anyone else is idiotic. I think we'll find the opposite - and that it's been tolerated for too long.
Here are some links that may open some eyes - if they want to see.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120185651
http://www.icgt.org/SpecialArticles/MuslimsInMilitary.htm
http://www.nysun.com/opinion/muslims-in-the-military/31393/
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0328/p01s02-usmi.html?page=1
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3812/is_200111/ai_n8972916/
You and the rest of the commentators are bitching about the media not covering it like you and other Fox commentators are covering it. BillO, don't you realize what you just said. Isn't this the beef from Fox NEWS? Their commentators are just that so they are not NEWS people.
So BillO, you do the commenting and others will do the journalists reporting of such shallow things as ..getting facts, doing an investigation, talking to witnesses, looking at the reports the guy filed. You know BillO, news people stuff.
And Lt.Col.Peter, you feel like puking...such a fine model of an officer. I am suprised you made it as far as you did. did you puke when you never got the full bird?
Wasn't Fox attacking Murtha for speaking out about American soldiers before an investigation was completed? Now if those guys that Murtha talked about had Arabic names, would Fox have commented on that?
Maybe someone else can write with a big crayon for you to understand.
COMMENTARY is not factual news. BillO is commentator. Fox has no journalists. ( At least pretend it is in big crayon). I am not saying this guy didn't do it.
P.S. Maybe someone can find out how many American soldiers with Arabic sounding/looking names have died for this country, their country? Should we get a list a question their loyalty.
These discussions are not whether this guy didn't do it, it they are about the aftermath of stupid comments by the Fox nuts, commentators or whatever the rest call themselves..like this Carlson jerk.
Not to mention, the regular news on FOX in the afternoon just basically sources the opinion shows without actually saying that when they talk about some headlines. Like asking before a show is the government really taking over your health? And then, not saying no after the commercial break is not deliberately misleading without actually lying.
2 - Everyone and their mother and their mother's hairdresser is talking about and analyzing this, clownball. The only unique thing about your analysis is that it is the laughable sort that describes a veteran's post-traumatic stress as "crazy stuff".
3 - I will not waste keystrokes on Ralph Peters. He is beyond scum. He would need to rise three levels of integrity just to reach "completely full of shiz" status.
Why is it when one self proclaimed devout Muslim shoots someone, the right wing crackpots indict the entire religion, but when a self proclaimed devout Christian murders an abortion doctor, religion is not an issue?
Also add parts of the man as a psychologist who had his own troubled background as a factor. How many psychologists themselves receive regular counseling for the stresses of their civilian practices. A person who councels stressful soldiers must hear the most tragic of stories.
Finally, his Muslim faith is part of it, but Christians also do crazy and radical things for their faith. What prayer did George Tiller's killer say after shooting the doctor in a church?
Hasan is Muslim, in a country that is predominantly Christian and many people don't have the greatest connotations when they think of Muslims. Peters just can't write off that the harassment Hasan might have received didn't contribute to this shooting. Also I haven't noticed O'Reilly mentioning that Hasan worked with soldiers who had come back from the wars, and maybe, just maybe he heard things from those soldiers that ate away at him, causing him to break.
Your brain should be caged species!
Shouldn't "figures of speech" be commonly known across all crowds? Like "All in a day's work"? Or "The sun's beating down"?