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Beck sub Baker: Health reform bill is "enslavement"

November 09, 2009 10:22 am ET

From the November 9 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:

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    • Author by liberalXtian (November 09, 2009 10:45 am ET)
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      PEE losi! What an immature idiot.

      Small businesses dropping insurance and forcing their workers on to the public option? Let's see...Businesses save money by not having to kick into their employees helth care, which means more money to reinvest in their business and perhaps hire more workers. and the employees get better health coverage for less money. This man has a problem with that?
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    • Author by MickD (November 09, 2009 10:48 am ET)
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      Imagine being a sub-level hack that subs for the Beckenstein Monster. How low they have to go...
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    • Author by blueline99 (November 09, 2009 11:12 am ET)
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      Yawn... the enslavement line... wait a minute... isn't that was Karl Marx describes the capitalist system has? The Proletariat enslaving the masses?

      Gee Chris Baker... you're talking like a Marxist!
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (November 09, 2009 12:49 pm ET)
           
        Why, I'll bet that Karl Marx is Baker's favorite political philosopher!
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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (November 09, 2009 1:27 pm ET)
             
          So much melodrama from these hysterical rightys. The Drama Queenery just gets more and more over-the-top. Fascism-this and slavery-that any time their beloved status quo is slightly threatened.

          But I'll admit that they're effective on a certain type of gullible American. Convincing people that having access to adequate health care is a threat to their liberties is right up there with convincing working people that taxes and union "thugs" are going to keep the "job creating class" from doing their altruistic best at providing for the submissive average Joe's who vote in their masters' interests in the hopes of getting a few crumbs.

          Just yesterday, the ashes of a good old friend of mine were dropped into the Pacific. He was a year or two younger than I am, mid-40s, and cancer got to his throat and liver.I got some more details back on dry land at the memorial, and it turns out there was a lapse in treatment during his illness when his insurance ran out for a time, due to some technicality.

          Through the connections of a friend, he was eventually able to get into Hoag, a great hospital here, but it wasn't enough.

          My late friend was an avid (to put it mildly) fisherman, and the burial-at-sea was attended by dozens of his friends pleasure boats, within eyesight of multi-million dollar homes on the bluffs overlooking the harbor. Still, at the memorial, I overheard two men discussing how pizzed they were that a health care bill was passed. It was one of the saddest things I heard all day.
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          • Author by MickD (November 09, 2009 2:37 pm ET)
               
            Strange Americana
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          • Author by liberalXtian (November 09, 2009 5:26 pm ET)
               
            My condolences on the death of your friend.

            I am reminded of another poster here (I can't recall the exact subject of that one), who was dismissing the numbers of the uninsured by saying so many were illegal aliens, or didn't want insurance, or had temporarily lost there insurance. Well, here is an example of a loss of insurance due to a "technicality". The result is a burial at sea.

            This should not happen in America.
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            • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (November 09, 2009 6:30 pm ET)
                 
              Agreed, and thank you, LX. I don't know for a fact that things would have been much better without the lapse in medical care, it may have been too much. I just don't think I should be wondering about that.

              It was bugging me, in the middle of a lot of silver spoon/old money in the area the burial took place. Most of the boats belong to blue collar guys, contractors and other regular working people, who love the ocean and fishing enough that they manage to maintain their vessels on top of the cost of living around here. It's amazing to me that any of them can see health care as a luxury.
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              • Author by blueline99 (November 10, 2009 11:16 am ET)
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                The insurance companies have a long history of framing their services to their customers.

                Only in the United States is health care a "benefit" and not a right. It's in the language... how dare we act so entitled? <sarcasm>

                Health Care is a public safety issue and the Health Care system is the same as our fire and police departments. The only problem is that this nation has always used a private security firm to safeguard our health care and we've never been enlightened enough to change.
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    • Author by FDR_democrat (November 09, 2009 5:23 pm ET)
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      Yes, just like public fire departments are a form of enslavement. How come these guys never complain about that?
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