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O'Reilly offers "clarification" for Miller's false claim that Rep. Frank was "running his male prostitution service"

November 10, 2009 10:20 pm ET

From the November 10 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:

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    • Author by Sharpe (November 10, 2009 11:16 pm ET)
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      The first admirable thing Ive ever heard Bill say.
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    • Author by bluestate69 (November 10, 2009 11:23 pm ET)
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      dennis says frank likes to "get his freak on"? how is being gay getting your "freak on"? dennis miller is not funny. he often resorts to blue humor to get laughs, at the expense of others, and he's still not funny. even more astounding, is miller blaming barney frank for the financial crisis. it was the republicans, deregulation, and predatory lending that's to blame for the financial crisis.
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      • Author by HeeNow (November 10, 2009 11:57 pm ET)
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        Almost all humor extracts laughs at the expense of others. A notable exception is Steven Wright.

        Frank chairs the committee that oversees the financial firms. O'Reilly has constantly attacked Frank for not acting sooner, and indeed loosening the regulations to allow more sub-prime loans.

        Before constantly blaming republicans, remember democrats have run congress since January of 2007.
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      • Author by fairliberal (November 11, 2009 12:32 am ET)
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        "how is being gay getting your "freak on"

        Miller didn't say that, you made it up.

        "even more astounding, is miller blaming barney frank for the financial crisis. it was the republicans, deregulation, and predatory lending that's to blame for the financial crisis. "

        That statement shows how little you know about the financial crisis.
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        • Author by DellDolly (November 11, 2009 12:59 am ET)
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          Dennis Miller sure did say that Barney Frank is "a smart guy, who likes to get his freak on, that takes him down some weird alleys...."

          So yes, he did say "get his freak on". Listen to the audio - it's clear as a bell.

          And you've proven yourself to be ill-informed during every opportunity, so you have no standing to be telling anyone that they know little about the financial crisis.
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          • Author by siam (November 11, 2009 1:29 am ET)
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            He didn't explicitly link "likes to get his freak on" to Frank's homosexuality but effectively did so with his "weird alleys" allusion and the later, slanderous "running his male prostitution ring" remark. Basically, he trashed Frank, a Democrat, as a pervert, thereby earning his Fox News Channel paycheck.
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          • Author by fairliberal (November 11, 2009 10:52 am ET)
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            Apparentluy your reading and listening skills are lacking. Here is the comment the other poster made and which I was referring to, I even quoted it in my reply, look again.

            "how is being gay getting your "freak on"

            You see that, Miller never said his being gay was getting your freak on. But of course you will blindly defend anything a fellow lib says, no matter how fictious it is. You folks can be so precise when it suits your purpose and so imprecise when you want to. That is not surprising at all.
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            • Author by DellDolly (November 11, 2009 12:09 pm ET)
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              But the previous poster didn't SAY that Dennis Miller said "how is being gay getting your "freak on".

              The previous poster wrote "dennis says frank likes to "get his freak on"?"

              The only thing he quoted Dennis Miller saying was "get his freak on". And Dennis Miller DID say that.

              So, the only thing you could have been objecting to the previous poster quoting Dennis Miller as saying is what the previous poster quoted Dennis Miller as saying.

              What your delusions told you the previous poster wrote doesn't count!

              And yeah, he sure was talking about Frank being gay. That's why he said that he got his freak on, because he behaves like a gay man!
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              • Author by fairliberal (November 11, 2009 11:49 pm ET)
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                He (Miller) said "he's a smart guy who likes to get his freak on".

                The other poster asked "how is being gay getting your "freak on"

                That is not what Miller said. He made it up. Typical.
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                • Author by DellDolly (November 12, 2009 1:32 am ET)
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                  But the previous poster never WROTE that Miller said "how is being gay getting your "freak on", did he?

                  Like I said.

                  You're wrong. 100% wrong. As usual.

                  The previous poster never said he was quoting Miller when the poster typed "how is being gay getting your "freak on", did he?

                  Nope, he didn't. In fact, he clearly indicated that there were two words he was quoting, "freak" and "on". One phrase, "freak on".

                  But that wasn't all that Dennis Miller said. And it was clear from the context that the "freak on" phrase was talking about Rep Barney Frank's sexuality.

                  So, the previous poster only quoted things that Miller actually said, and never pretended to claim that Miller said those other words, but Miller's comments were clearly about Frank being gay!

                  Gosh, you are so freakin' easy.

                  You are the one who made something up. It's very typical, and we see how frustrated it makes you when someone catches you at that kind of behavior. Too bad, so sad.
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                  • Author by bluestate69 (November 12, 2009 5:09 am ET)
                       
                    sorry i left you alone to fend off fairliberal delldolly!! i am the original post-er. that's exactly what my statement/question was. he didn't bring up anything besides being gay, he just said "frank is a guy that likes to get his freak on." my statement/question was inquisitive. miller isn't gonna come out and say that gays like to "get their freak on", but it sure looks like he insinuated it. that was my point, dell dolly got.
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        • Author by LIBERTY OR DEATH (November 11, 2009 1:01 am ET)
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          Financial institutions bought huge packages of loans from Fannie and Freddie because they are government insured but the dems let Fannie and Freddie cheat so the bad loans spread like cancer in our system.
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          • Author by Sharpe (November 11, 2009 1:57 am ET)
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            Yes and Frank pushed the passing of one of the few regulatory items after he took the position but it was too little, too late anyway as the derivitives had already spread. The better question is who passed the deregulatory laws that allowed banks to become financial traders and allowed them to trade with such high risk assets in such HUGE quantities. Why were mortgage loans being packaged as financial trading pieces in the first place? Frank had no real power until 2007 - passed a regulatory law which wasn't signed until late 2008. Before then, there were almost two decades of DEREGULATION! It was too late for anything to be done by 2007 as this thing had been building for close to a decade before Frank even took control of the committee.

            For all people who would rather re-write history than read, just read this below:

            "Lawrence B. Lindsey, a former economic adviser to President George W. Bush, wrote that Frank “is the only politician I know who has argued that we needed tighter rules that intentionally produce fewer homeowners and more renters.”[10] Once control shifted to the Democrats, Frank was able to help guide both the Federal Housing Reform Act (H.R. 1427) and the Mortgage Reform and Anti-Predatory Lending Act (H.R. 3915) to passage in 2007.[53] Frank also said that the Republican-led Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999, which removed the wall between commercial and investment banks, contributed to the financial meltdown.[53] The statute, which repealed part of the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, has been criticized for having contributed to the proliferation of the financial instruments which are at the heart of the crisis.[59]"
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          • Author by Sharpe (November 11, 2009 2:03 am ET)
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            That act at the end was passed in 1999. A full 8 years before the crash started - it was passed by a republican congress but signed by clinton so I am not placing the blame on any single party.

            But it is irrational, irresponsible and outright ludicrous to blame the meltdown on a single person or committee. It was the deregulatory action starting all the way back to reagan and the continued deregulation and absolute inability to pass new regulation for over two decades that all contributed in some way and added to the ability for wall street to trade recklessly and the corporations that traded to be not only financial trading companies but the nation's largest and greediest banks with stockholders making insane demands after years of economic growth.

            The key here is not to place blame but to make sure that reform efforts actually take place and do so in an intelligent and aggressive way. But if you would like to place blame, how about the actual banks that toppled, then took 700 billion in tax payer money, didn't pay a huge chunk of it back, handed out bonuses like it was new years every day and then, recorded record breaking quarters while unemployment continue to grow. How about them??? They should take the majority of the public ire for this, not some senator.
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          • Author by Sharpe (November 11, 2009 2:06 am ET)
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            Plus, it has been determined the so called toxic assets were mostly not even from fannie or freddie - it was something like 10 percent of the total toxic loans that they issued. Most of them were from other mortgage lender companies that were making risky loans available for years and years before fannie or freddie were able to do so. In fact, the laws were relaxed towards those two because they were having trouble competing with the other companies who were already making subprime mortgages, the majority of their market. Fannie and freddie once granted the power to do so, spent very little time in it before the meltdown happened thus, they only played a minor role in spreading the toxic assets throughout the entire system.
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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (November 11, 2009 7:57 am ET)
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            Absurd. The Dem's were not in power at the time, and as soon as they were back in power one of the first things they did was to tighten banking regulatiosn. The Replublicans were the ones in power during the buildup to this mess and did nothing, and it was the Reuplican and Conservtaive philosphy of DEREGULATION that enabled it.

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            • Author by fairliberal (November 11, 2009 11:57 pm ET)
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              "and it was the Reuplican and Conservtaive philosphy of DEREGULATION that enabled it."

              Correct, that was one factor, the dems mortgage policies were also in play. And all of the deregulation was passed and became law during the Clinton years. These laws were sponsored by repubs and co-sponsored by dems and were passed with no democratic opposition. In effect they were bipartisan. Can you point to any deregulation laws passed that were opposed by the dems? Or can you point to any deregulation laws passed by the Bush administartion? And right up to 2006 the dems opposed the reregulation of Fannie and Freddie and Frank led the opposition , along with Waters, Dodd, Schumer and other dems.
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              • Author by DellDolly (November 12, 2009 1:36 am ET)
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                The "Dems" mortgage policy had almost no effect.

                Facts have a liberal bias.

                The Democrats didn't get to participate in the crafting of virtually any language in virtually any bills for years. The Republican Party treated the minority party like dirt, unlike the Dems in power now. Obama had almost half of the Financial Stimulus bill back in January full of tax cuts because it was what the Republicans had told him they wanted. Baucus worked with a bipartisan panel to come up with the Senate Finance Committee's bill proposal recently. The Republicans did nothing of the sort. I could give you a hundred examples.
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        • Author by mescal (November 11, 2009 1:55 am ET)
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          Fauxliberal

          The Faux News Channel pays you good money to troll here, so you're going to have to do better than that. Your lies should not be nearly so easily exposed, and you didn't even bother nitpicking Bluestate's on the money assessment of the financial meltdown. It's almost like you don't even CARE about your obfuscasions any more.

          Problems at home maybe?
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          • Author by bluestate69 (November 11, 2009 3:21 am ET)
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            thanks mescal, i would gladly respond to nitpicking.real debate is essential in a democracy, which is why i have a problem with faux news!!
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        • Author by bluestate69 (November 11, 2009 3:16 am ET)
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          thanks for getting my quotes down correctly. i stand by them. tell me how frank is to blame for the crisis. i'd like to know. the fact that he was in the minority party from 94 to 07 would make it a pretty big feat for one congressman. if you don't know how predatory lending and deregulation affected the crisis, then you're starting from the presumption that your side can't be to blame, which is a non starter. take your political blinders off and realize there are a lot of agencies, corporations and people to blame, but certainly not one party, and sure as heck not one single congressman.
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        • Author by bintx (November 11, 2009 10:31 am ET)
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          No wonder you like Fox so much, FL, you have selective hearing. You hear only the things you want to hear and shut out the rest. WOW!
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    • Author by shaft (November 11, 2009 12:43 am ET)
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      But seriously folks, my name is Dennis Miller and I'll be here all week. Try the veal and don't forget to tip your waiter.

      Amazing to hear this guy whine about being ostracized by the "show biz left" for his decided turn to the right. Another righty crying victim. Oh the irony.

      I don't think it's the about leaning right. Being a regular on FOX just kills all your credibility. He just needs to man-up to it plain and simple. We've all done things for money at one point or another that we're not particularly proud of.
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      • Author by DellDolly (November 12, 2009 1:39 am ET)
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        Well, playing the victim when one isn't a victim at all IS one of their favorite role-playing games.

        One doesn't get to claim victimhood status when you're a victim of your own deeds and behavior. Convicted criminals don't get to claim that they're a victim of the sentence they receive for the crimes they committed. Rep Joe Wilson doesn't get to claim he's a victim of anyone when it was his comments that got him into hot water. And Dennis Miller doesn't get to claim victimhood when it's his lack of comedic talent and his pansy behavior that tainted him for life after 9/11.
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      • Author by bluestate69 (November 12, 2009 4:55 am ET)
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        dennis miller's career was on the decline before his move to the right. i'm convinced that's why he went to the right, to save his career. he wasn't a strong stand-up comedian, and he's horrible in movies(or sketches, that's why snl writers left him out of them). his act is soooo old and tired(example:" michael moore at a republican convention is like the pope singing karoaoke at a san francisco bath house").i don't think dennis was getting much calls from the "show biz left" before his republican conversion.
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    • Author by calvinzappa (November 11, 2009 2:28 am ET)
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      It is pretty amazing how suddenly Bill O'Reilly has become the most sane voice in cable news! With Hannity, Beck and Dobbs out there, it is becoming harder and harder to refer to O'Reilly as a right wing nutbag. Scroll through the recent MMTV posts and most of the O'Reilly posts are about him clearing up misinformation spread by a guest or him breaking ranks with the right like his recent support of Obama's Olympic lobbying. And when MMFA does post misinformation spread by O'Reilly, it pales in comparison to what the others are saying. He even has been appearing less and less on Olbermann's "worst person in the world" segment. I am about to make a statement that will forever ostracize me from the MMFA community: The O'Reilly Factor has actually become semi-watchable these days!
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (November 11, 2009 8:52 am ET)
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      What Miller, and the rest of the cons, need to learn is that LIES generally aren't funny.

      What Setphen Colbert, John Steweart, Al Franken, Lewis Black, Geogre Carlin, Lenny Bruce, etc... have taught us is that NOTHING is funnier than the TRUTH.

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      (did I just get all "7 dirty words" through the profanity filter? LOL)
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (November 11, 2009 9:44 am ET)
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      O'Reilly offers "clarification" for Miller's false claim that Rep. Frank was "running his male prostitution service"

      Dennis Miller is not and never was funny! Good for HBO dismissing this screwball!

      By the way fairlib he did say Barney Frank is a gay man who likes to get his freak on. Plus smeared him on running a prostitution ring. Good thing Bill'O had some sense to step up and dismiss Miller's retard claim. Thumbs up for Bill'O. Rare from me, but this was needed.
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      • Author by Tbone Slickens (November 11, 2009 9:53 am ET)
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        The point you and many above are intentionally glossing over is the comparison that Barney didn't SEE the male prostitution ring being held in HIS basement and Barney didn't SEE the Marijuana plants being grown in HIS plot of land.

        Ol' Barney sure has trouble SEEING things. I guess it's time for some new coke bottles...
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        • Author by Boxer1979 (November 11, 2009 11:03 am ET)
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          I guess you are the judge and the jury. Just like Chaney saying torture is Enhanced Interigation!
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    • Author by lewislaw7153 (November 11, 2009 11:30 am ET)
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      Channel surfing last night . .

      I heard O'Pervert's lead in to introducing Miller . .

      "Barney Frank and his BOYfriend are in some trouble [blah,blah] and we'll have Dennis Miller on to discuss [blah, blah] . .

      "BOYfriend"

      Come on guys, disengenuous and really disrespectful . .

      How about "Barney Frank and his partner [blah,blah]" ??
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    • Author by PhuckPHOX (November 11, 2009 4:03 pm ET)
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      I wonder if Miller knows how dumb he sounds... he really knows nothing, he just tosses insults around and laughs at his own jokes.

      I will give props to Mr. O'Reilly for clarifying that, though.
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