Beck's obsession with reparations moves to Obama's pledge to assist Native Americans
November 11, 2009 10:08 am ET
From the November 11 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:
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Oh Glenn, how we missed your particular flavor of totally insane.
::spins with lights off while splattering watter on a mirror::
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Dang nothing happened.
I've now heard them, and this goes beyond just Beck, but it's the same mental illness; I've heard them...:
Defend the internment of Japanese Amercians in WWII
Defend Sen. McCarthy's 1950's communists witch hunts
Accuse the US Solderis of the attrocities that the NAZI'S committed at Malmedy in WWII
Defend the US Constituition's stance on slavery as merely an "immigration fee"
and NOW, they're somehow acting like the Genocide of the Native American is yet one more of our countries SHINING MOMENTS.
These idiots use out countries DARKEST MOMENTS and WORST MISTAKES and GREATEST ATTROCITIES (even those committed AGIANST us!) as PRECEDENT and JUSTIFICATION for continuing to do more of the same!
YES, we all have competing interests and agendas. Not everyone will get everything they want. That's life. It's unfair. Get a helmet. But there are WAYS to work these things out, and they involve mutual respect and civiclized discourse.
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NO ONE benefits from this kind of purile nonsense.
Anne Coulter has said about McCarthy: "I know he got a bad rap because there are no monuments to Joe McCarthy. Liberals had to destroy McCarthy because he exposed the entire liberal establishment as having sheltered Soviet spies."
Bill O'Reilly stated one night on his show: "In Malmady, as you know, U.S. forces captured S.S. forces who had their hands in the air and they were unarmed and they shot them down. You know that. That‘s on the record. Been documented." [it was the other way around and when O'Reilly was confronted with his mistake by a viewer, he DEFENDED his earlier statement.]
Beck, in his latest book, pretty much defended the Constitution's original stance on slavery by calling the "importation fee" [for humans considered property, i.e., slaves] in Article I, Section 9, Clause 1, an "immigration fee."
The Malmedy thing was O'Rielly, back in '06 or '07 IIRC. Olbermann took him took task pretty harshly for it at the time. (Big bsurprise.) I thought MMFA had something as well, but it's not coming up for me.
Defending the internment of Japanese Amercians in WWII was done by MICHELLE MALKIN of all people - an ASIAN herself! (I guess only Nixon can go to China!) Again, I could have sworn MMFA had something on this, I seem to remember COMMENTING on it, but I can't seem to find it now either.
Sen. Joe McCarthy is one of Ann Coulter's biggest personal heroes, and she's defended him, and held him up as a shining example of a "Great American" on numerous occaisions.
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Everything America does and has done is great and if you disagree you are with Al Qaeda.
Its an alternate reality.. the same alternate reality where Reagan was great (he wasnt) and FDR was awful (he wasnt)
I think it is rather tempting to say that we owe the Native American a bit more than a few dollars and Glenn Beck is piece of trash for going in this direction.
Come to think of it, so is anyone else who takes Glenn's side!
This countries history is full of violence and contradictions and until we as a nation accept and acknowledge that this nation is doomed to fail.
Barack Obama said...Van Jones said...Glenn Beck said...
He played the president's quote, then he surmized the quote by twisting just enough to be almost beleivable and then used the quotes from his summary to have matched up perfectly with his Van Jones tape.
The president did not say "broken treaties" or "native american rights". He didn't even say anything about reparations or putting any group over another. But Glenn Beck did say "broken treaties" in his bad summary.
Then Van Jones used the exact same words as Beck almost as if the President was quoting Van Jones.
Very sneaky.
Tell me what I already think I know, and I'll listen to you. Tell me otherwise, and you're a commie fascist liberal wingnut liar. This is why Beck, et.al. can say any absurdity and never have to back it up. This is why Hannity can show old video of a larger crowd and claim it's video of a recent event he sponsored. These guys know they will be caught but they also know their loyal listeners will hardly care.
He wants the federal government out of the Native American's lives. Does he want us to return all their land?
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Oh lord now he will have people thinking Obama will do something terrible to the Native Americans. Neverminding the fact that Europeans have treated Native Americans cruely for centuries!
Who was the last president to help out Native Americans? I believed it was Nixon. Also before then Native Americans were not given the full right to vote until 1957. The native americans deserve reprerations Just like African-Americans,and other minorities racial discriminated on for centuries.
Reperations - is a proposal by some in the United States that some type of compensation should be provided to the descendants of enslaved people.
Becky will you do that if you were president?????
Oh, yeah....
* The two principles on which our conduct towards the Indians should be founded, are justice and fear. After the injuries we have done them, they cannot love us . . . .
o Letter to Benjamin Hawkins (13 August 1786) Lipscomb & Bergh ed. 5:390
* There is an error into which most of the speculators on government have fallen, and which the well-known state of society of our Indians ought, before now, to have corrected. In their hypothesis of the origin of government, they suppose it to have commenced in the patriarchal or monarchical form. Our Indians are evidently in that state of nature which has passed the association of a single family... The Cherokees, the only tribe I know to be contemplating the establishment of regular laws, magistrates, and government, propose a government of representatives, elected from every town. But of all things, they least think of subjecting themselves to the will of one man.
o Letter to Francis W. Gilmer (1816)
How many times have many times have you said something ridiculous in the name of that same "bunch of dead people" that your now stomping on? So much for our founding fathers...
gee Glenn.. maybe you should talk to a native american about how tough their life is.. if you can find one.
To make Beckianism work, you have to do an awful lot of selective erasures of the certain "nasty bits" of our history. Starting with a blank slate, you now have to rewrite new mythical narratives that put you and your kind in the center, and you have to do a whole lot of careful revisions of other parts to make sure you look good in that center.
Then, and only then, can you truly feel like the exceptional "chosen people" that you imagine yourself to be, in relation to the "Others" who..., well, just aren't that exceptional or you know... chosen, so... uhhhhh... you know, too bad for them. Manifest Destiny and U.S. Exceptionalism and all that....
With their land seized by the Government or stolen by settlers, the slaughter of the Buffallo (which provided them with food, clothing, and shelter) and in fear of being totally annihilated, they finally declared they would "fight no more". Because of their continued unwillingness to accept our Chrisian based ideologies they were then banished forever to Reservations, where most of them remain to this day.
One only needs to make a trip to any Indian Reservation to realize that our current system of acknowledging our Native Indian population is disfunctional.
Mr. Beck is the "Poster Child" for the Secular Government Movement. People are getting sick and tired of so called Christians spouting their racist comments.
Bless you, Glenn Beck. Never change. Shine on, crazy diamond, and I hope your private health insurance fully covers the surgery you will inevitably need to forcibly remove your fingers from your eardrums.
I'm really sick of people commenting about how all the Native Americans are rich because of their casinos too. You need to do your homework before you go spouting off at the mouth. A very very small percentage of the tribes that exist make a very significant profit from a casino. The problem is the few that do are the only ones you hear about. The other 90% of the Native population is still poor.
If you want to refer to the Constitution and use it to justify what should be occurring or what the situation should be today, try to justify the way the Indians have been overlooked and shoved aside from the day the white man got here!
Indians weren't even granted US citizenship until 1924. That hasn't even been a solid hundred years. The atrocities that occurred aren't that "old"!! If you are not the one being discriminated against - it's much easier for you to say, "forget it and move on"...