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Beck fearmongers: "If you don't call [Hasan] a terrorist, it clears a path for ... an extremist terrorist plan"

He adds: "If we stay silent long enough, maybe they could come to your house and shoot your children in the head"

November 11, 2009 6:05 pm ET

From the November 11 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (November 11, 2009 6:09 pm ET)
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      That's it then...we're all dead. Give your gold away...
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    • Author by Sharpe (November 11, 2009 6:17 pm ET)
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      Again, equating politically correct with morally upstanding. NOT EQUIVALENT BECK NOT EQUIVALENT. i dont even mind calling him a terrorist if the entire GOP and FOX promised me they would stop generalizing and calling for religious profiling in the armed forces. I think that is a fair trade - i say terrorist, you stop equating him with every other muslim in this country.
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      • Author by Sharpe (November 11, 2009 7:26 pm ET)
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        wow - two thumbs down. Got some harsh critics here. I think calling him a terrorist is far less harmful than generalizing the entire religion and advocating for screenings in the army.

        Plus, I think with the fact that he was extremely religious combined with his diatribes about infadels and his rules about God and Muslims fighting in the army and his obvious opposition with going abroad based on some moral and religious dilemma it is fair to say this has all the makings of some sort of religious motivation. Im not saying that was the only reason for it but I think it is just ignorant to brush all this off as not contributing to the murders. He was also clearly mentally ill as well but if the act had any basis in religious ideology, it is likely to be considered a terrorist act. I dont want to say that is my ultimate conclusion but it is looking more and more like religion did play a role in all of this at some level.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (November 11, 2009 6:18 pm ET)
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      Glenn, I don't fear calling terrorists, terrorists, but I don't see the point of standing there calling people names, how about I give it a try. You are a fat, fatty, dirtbag, extremist, hate mongering, ignoramous! You are deliberately winding people up with your lies, manipulations, half-truths, and wild fancy to charge boldly off to challenge a duly elected government because you don't happen to like their policies. Going around and dumping on hookers and winos isn't going to change them or make them go away, neither will your standing there and abusing them for their degraded position. You should be especially kind to hookers since you have sold your soul and your body to Rupert Murdoch so shamelessly. Do you enjoy it when you pitch the company line so hard that some of your viewers swallow it, hook, line and sinker? You are a twisted, sick hooker! Oh, and you cheat, too, since your TV show was a virtual repeat of your radio program! Are you wearing it out, servicing so many johns in a day?
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      • Author by Civic Racecar (November 11, 2009 7:14 pm ET)
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        Sadly, I cannot give you more than a single thumbs up.

        As for Beck, somehow I don't think people will stop killing others in an attempt to promote, just because we call them terrorists. Hands down, one of the most illogical and idiotic premises that Beck has come up with.
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    • Author by smarshall1432997 (November 11, 2009 6:26 pm ET)
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      Absolutely horrific in where FoxNews has gone with "spewing" their hatred on their cable network now a days. It's no surprise on how FoxNews will "smear" ANY group, or person for "ONLY" a political gain. FoxNews showed "NO" journalistic reporting for the sitting American President with facts, just a major political "smear" campaign because he is a Democrat.

      And now FoxNews have "smeared" ALL Muslims so soon after the Ft. Hood Shooting without ANY facts what-so-ever ALL in the name of politics. Just horrific, horrific, horrific with what FoxNews do in the name of American Politics. So "sad" indeed.
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    • Author by blueline99 (November 11, 2009 6:30 pm ET)
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      What do we gain by calling him a terrorist?

      Do you feel validated? Like all your fearmongering was justified?
      I don't... all that I know is that the worst domestic tragedies since 9/11 have all come from Americans. Virginia Tech, Holocaust Museum, Pittsburgh Gym Shooting... et al

      Why must we define him as a terroist? If we do, then is it a failure of our Armed Forces and Homeland Security? Why is the Dr. Tiller murderer a terrorist or the crazy guy at the Holocaust Museum? Would things be better if we called them terrorist?

      Is there something I'm missing? How does name calling make us a safer nation? If I call him a terrorist, I don't feel safer or less safe... it's just a name

      Like Bozo is a name
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      • Author by k1dork (November 11, 2009 6:37 pm ET)
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        I watched the segment and Beck gave the example of Timothy McVeigh ALSO being a terrorist.

        Beck was speaking out against political correctness, and was simply saying that in his opinion, people like McVeigh and Hasan are not "troubled" or some other PC term, but are terrorists.

        If you disagree, fine, but Beck was not fear mongering.
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        • Author by worrierking (November 11, 2009 6:50 pm ET)
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          A terrorist uses terror for political reasons. Timothy McVeigh was into white supremacy and planned and eventually attacked the Federal Building in Oklahoma City as a from of revenge agains the government of the US. He had to buy the ammonium nitrate, he had to mix the chemicals, he had to rent the truck. He had to enlist others in his plot. It was not something he did on a whim and alone.

          Where is the evidence showing that this lunatic plotted to kill these soldiers for political reasons? How far in advance did he plan the attack?

          You can show that he used terror, but not that he used it for political reasons.
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          • Author by k1dork (November 11, 2009 6:55 pm ET)
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            So Hasan attempting to contact Al-Queda and saying that the war in Iraq was a war against Islam are NOT political reasons?
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          • Author by NoNannyNeeded (November 11, 2009 8:05 pm ET)
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            Terrorism is someone uses violence to persuade people to submit to their demands out of fear. It's ususally based upon ideology not necessarily political. As you can see religion can be held hostage from it as well.

            You still need evidence this bastard was a terrorist? How about screaming "Allah Akbar" when he shot up the place. Last time I knew only certain people said that before killing someone. How about Hasan's comments praising the other terrorist who killed the young recruiter in Little Rock? How about his attempts to contact Al Qaeda? Although Chris Matthews doesn't see a problem with this, level headed people do. This scum need to be tried for teason and if convicted punished accordingly.

            But according to the Left, this man was just stressed & confused & "snapped". The REAL terrorists are those people who show up to tell their congressman how they feel. The are the people how belived in Jesus & want to proudly proclaim it. They are the people who disagree with this current government & the direction it's heading. Yeah, they are the one's to watch.

            Just because Pres BO says "not to rush to judgement" (don't mention the Cambridge incident to him) and Rachel Maddow purposely mispronounces his name evey night doesn't diminish the facts here.

            Why are some many people refusing to see this for what it is? Who are we afraid of offending? Face it- if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck- yes, it is s duck!
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            • Author by eweston8542983 (November 11, 2009 10:32 pm ET)
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              Shouting, God is Great, or its equivelent, before lethal action has deep traditions in almost every military grouping.
              The FBI and the CIA join the progressives in their opinion of the murderer. You want to call them out too?
              We recently shot and arrested a domestic terrorist in Seattle. That is what the authorites are calling Mr. Monfort. Somehow his story just isn't getting the media airplay of Hasan's. And this guy had some bombs that he hadn't gotten arround to setting off. Thanks to ordinary police doing their jobs, and who cares how he greets his god.
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              • Author by k1dork (November 11, 2009 11:55 pm ET)
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                If you were in law enforcement, which is more predictable---sporadic violence against police, as seen in Seattle, OR, a member of a specific group that voices his discontent and the incompatibility of his ideology with his occupation?
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              • Author by NoNannyNeeded (November 12, 2009 7:55 am ET)
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                The FBI and the CIA join the progressives in their opinion of the murderer. You want to call them out too?

                Gee, wonder why that would be? Could it be the answer to the...White House? No one there is calling it that but the soldiers who lost a loved one sure are!
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                • Author by eweston8542983 (November 12, 2009 9:49 am ET)
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                  You can both try again. Something possible to understand, something linear and/or rational would be good
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        • Author by blueline99 (November 11, 2009 7:00 pm ET)
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          Beck's said that if we don't call Hassan a terrorist then it leads us down a path where someone will shoot your children in the head.

          Did I miss something?
          If that's not fear mongering I don't know what is.

          Stay silent and someone will shoot your children in the head!

          that is what the man said right?

          He is equating calling Hassan a terrorist or we are all going to die.
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          • Author by k1dork (November 11, 2009 7:07 pm ET)
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            OK, so what? Why be so "offended" by his opinion with regard to what we should call a man who MASSACRED hiw fellow soldiers?

            Sometimes a smack in the face is what is needed to wake people up, and "your children will get shot" is a verbal smack in the face.

            I'm less offended by his choice of words, and MORE concerned with us IGNORING the truth in favor of being PC.
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            • Author by Marker (November 11, 2009 7:13 pm ET)
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              K-Dork: Most rational people could care less what repugs like yourself think about terrorism. Hide under your table and quiver like a coward and let brave Americans go about their business. Your "the sky is falling" routine is old.
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              • Author by k1dork (November 11, 2009 8:07 pm ET)
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                Can a person have ideas without being associated with a political party? Dude, I'm 29, and I've never voted. I could care less about a "Dem" or "Pug."

                I'm just a regular guy. That means I'm NOT that PC, so I don't mind calling someone who murdered his own soldiers for political reasons a terrorist.
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                • Author by Marker (November 12, 2009 3:48 pm ET)
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                  Never voted, so you are part of the problem, not part of the solution. Your young age shows all you know is Raygun politics, that's sad. Ignorance can be fixed, but stupid is forever.
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                  • Author by k1dork (November 12, 2009 4:31 pm ET)
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                    Why would I want to take part in a process in which if I have certain opinions I am automatically LABELED?

                    Sorry, but I'd rather opt out.

                    I think partisan hacks such as yourself are the real problem, and you keep decent people like myself away from politics.
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                    • Author by Marker (November 12, 2009 7:38 pm ET)
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                      Sitting on the sidelines and doing nothing but projecting blame is not a plan. Decent people involve themselves, don't repugs like yourself scream the loudest about all the rights the military are fighting for? Voting is one of those rights and is one of the most important ones.

                      By the way, your politics are easy to label, stand up for being a repug.
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            • Author by blueline99 (November 11, 2009 7:47 pm ET)
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              I'm not offended... I just don't understand what we call Hasan has any bearing to our national safety? or the safety of our children?

              when did, not calling a mass murderer a terrorist become a matter of our national security? When did our children's lives become in danger over what we label someone?

              that is my point... I'm not ignoring the truth.. if the man was a terrorist, then I'll call him a terrorist... I don't know that he was.

              Terrorism is a tactic, but I get the sinking suspicion that we are trying to redefine it to people who are Muslims and are murderers.
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            • Author by jjamele2880 (November 11, 2009 8:10 pm ET)
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              Isn't it exhausting to be petrified all the time?
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        • Author by bintx (November 11, 2009 7:16 pm ET)
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          There was no "political correctness." Beck and the rest of the idiots who are pushing this idea have obviously never been NEAR the military.
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    • Author by k1dork (November 11, 2009 6:33 pm ET)
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      That doesn't sound like fear mongering to me. It sounds like a man WARNING about the dangers of political correctness. I happened to be watching the segment, and it was about the dangers of political correctness.

      Let's be objective here. It doesn't take a "racist fear mongerer" to think that calling a spade a spade is the right thing to do, as opposed to sugar coating things in the name of political correctness.

      Now I'll probably be called racist for the "spade a spade" idiom.
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      • Author by smarshall1432997 (November 11, 2009 6:46 pm ET)
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        Nope, you want get that badge of honor of being called a racist from me. What I will tell you is that the Soldier that killed so many last week at Ft. Hood is an AMERICAN. An AMERICAN Soldier killed his fellow Soldiers because of ... should be the ONLY Headlines at FoxNews until ALL the facts are learned. The PC (Political Correct) story came from Gretchen Carlson, Fox & Friends Co-Host, a day AFTER the Ft. Hood Shooting without ANY "facts" to back her claim. Now ALL other FoxNews Hosts are circling the wagon to cover her 'racist' un-founded claims.

        Btw, next time try looking beyond FoxNews' talking points, and you will see the 'wrong-doings' their hiding, LOL.
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        • Author by k1dork (November 11, 2009 6:52 pm ET)
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          Really? Is calling a man who murders multiple people out of MISGUIDED ideas about his religion a "terrorist" really such a matter of contention?

          A guy commits a massacre, and people are more concerned about what we call him?! Our society is finished.
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          • Author by smarshall1432997 (November 11, 2009 6:59 pm ET)
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            When was these "facts" released? When did you and FoxNews see these "facts"? FoxNews and you should "stop" with calling this what has "NOT" been proven until ALL "facts" are released from the Authorities that are investigating the shooting. That Soldier is an AMERICAN - period. Nothing else has been proven as "fact", especially the "reason" from the American Shooter.
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          • Author by eweston8542983 (November 11, 2009 7:07 pm ET)
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            How bout Mr Monfort , is he a terrorist in your opinion? Any mind reading you'd care to do in his case?

            What we call people matters. In this case, the matter is a demonisation of a major religion and the population that belongs to it.
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          • Author by bintx (November 11, 2009 7:16 pm ET)
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            Like Eric Rudolph?
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          • Author by Marker (November 11, 2009 7:16 pm ET)
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            K-Dork: A guy commits a massacre, and people are more concerned about what we call him?! Our society is finished.


            Our society is finished with fear-mongers like yourself. Do what repug cowards do best, go hide and let brave Americans alone.
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          • Author by bintx (November 11, 2009 7:19 pm ET)
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            Do you understand how terrorism works, kdork? It only works if people are terrified. The actual action isn't terrorism . . . it is the result of the action.

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          • Author by bintx (November 11, 2009 7:21 pm ET)
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            You know, there were three workplace attacks in the past week. I didn't see anybody in the media jumping all over the other two, throwing the "T" word around. How do you know that the other two weren't "terrorists"? Because one was white and one was Hispanic? Do we know their religions? What is the significance, if any, of their religious beliefs?
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      • Author by worrierking (November 11, 2009 6:53 pm ET)
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        You want us to be objective as another chickenhawk tries to make political points over the bodies of dead Americans?

        There is no depth to which this subhuman, Beck, will not sink to build his cause up and to knock down those he disagrees with.


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        • Author by pls5671 (November 11, 2009 7:15 pm ET)
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          My biggest worry is that young adults that don't have a good foundation or understanding of the US History and have been told even by some of their Christian leaders that they think FOX is telling the truth. These Adults really think that FOX is the truth not acting, not crazies. I have heard them say that some of them get so emotional and believe this is the truth. Fox needs to be Called stronger on their faults and untruths.
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (November 11, 2009 7:32 pm ET)
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      Beck fearmongers: "If you don't call [Hasan] a terrorist, it clears a path for ... an extremist terrorist plan"He adds: "If we stay silent long enough, maybe they could come to your house and shoot your children in the head"

      [http://static.guim.co.uk/Guardian/music/gallery/2008/jul/24/1/GD8102117@People-fall-as-the-fi-7686.jpg]

      <SARCASM>
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (November 12, 2009 11:21 am ET)
           
        Was this a scene from last year when Wal-Mart opened its doors selling $25 Ipods?
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    • Author by progressiveright (November 11, 2009 8:56 pm ET)
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      Every criminal is a terrorist and every crime is an act of terror if you take things to the extreme. Also using the definition of terrorism given by G. W. Bush the Sons of Liberty that included three of the signers of the Deceleration of Independence was a terrorist organization. Those that took this view then were the Torres thus Beck would have been a Torre.
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