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Borelli on Hannity: A "big message" in black community is "you are owed something... and don't have to work hard"

November 13, 2009 9:33 pm ET

From the November 13 edition of Fox News' Hannity:

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    • Author by Barry Bonds (November 13, 2009 9:38 pm ET)
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      As a black person, I get an email from the Black Delegation, at least once a week, saying that very thing.

      "Hey Black Person, Don't work hard and you are owed something. Peace out, Black Delegation."
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      • Author by pantha266@yahoo.com (November 13, 2009 9:54 pm ET)
           
        Hey, I didn't get my Black Delegation news letter this week. Did you??
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      • Author by Sharpe (November 14, 2009 12:48 am ET)
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        Its ridiculous to say Americans believe this more so than none Americans. Mainly because our social programs are far more restrictive than most other developed countries. The bar is set far lower for medicaid and welfare than almost anywhere in Europe or Canada for that matter. Its not a black or white thing. I think its a country thing - if your country has massive welfare programs and you can live comfortably with very limited income your not as inclined to work but if the bar is very low and you can barely make it by with welfare and food stamps like in America you are far more likely to be employed. This country is so expensive often even a single income doesnt make ends meet. And healthcare costs are so out of control that most anyone who is in the lower class has no healthcare which becomes a major burden on the whole country.
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      • Author by Sharpe (November 14, 2009 12:50 am ET)
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        Im currently in medical school and I see poor patients all the time - most none of them have any coverage yet, they still dont qualify for medicaid at times. We prescibe them medication and they cant even afford it. Its ridiculous - its like whats the point of coming to a doctor if you cant even pay to treat yourself for the problem.
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      • Author by pilotx (November 14, 2009 10:46 pm ET)
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        You get that one too? I thought it was just me.
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    • Author by Bad News (November 13, 2009 9:39 pm ET)
         
      "Hannity the Mis-informer" Commentator in Disguise.


      Mr. News
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    • Author by srichardson (November 13, 2009 9:54 pm ET)
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      This whole message is stupid. Do these people honestly think that some people strive all their lives to live on welfare? Come on! That's stupid. It all starts with the educational system. Until this country fixes the tax base so that ALL public schools get the same amount of money to spend on each student, there will always be those who can't acheive the American dream bc the odds are so severely stacked against them. I'm sure most people would prefer to be treated and educated like the upper class white kid so that they will be given the quality education that will allow them to go on to college and get a good job that has some potential at growth. No one wants to live off of the government. It's a stupid argument.
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      • Author by jjamele2880 (November 13, 2009 10:06 pm ET)
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        Yes, they do think this. It's how they justify their racism and their lack of a social conscience- "these people" are "lazy" and would "just waste the money anyway," so its ok for them to be poor, because it's all they deserve.

        Privileged pigs like Hannity, who really DO believe that society owes them EVERYTHING because they are rich and white, make me sick.
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    • Author by manofmystique (November 13, 2009 10:54 pm ET)
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      Black people are owed something for our free forced labor. Black people are owed something for being stolen from our native land. Black people are owed something for legalized bondage and slavery. Black people are owed something for their part in building America. Black people are owed something for the unsolved and unpunished lynchings [by the thousands] at the hands of white people. Black people are owed something for mistreatment and injustice. Black people are owed something for crimes against humanity. Black people are owed the promised, but never delivered, "forty acres and a mule". But you don't see black people revolting in the streets and trying to overthrow the government, yet you see those in the media, like idiot Sean Klannity, take the focus off the benefactors of human depravity and exploitation and somehow fault those who have a legitimate gripe.
      The blame and spotlight should be on the greedy ones who condone, support and benefit from an evil oppressive way of life.
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      • Author by Sharpe (November 14, 2009 12:54 am ET)
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        Exactly - well said! I dont like constantly saying black people are owed something because I think it takes away from the national conversation and allows for attacks but honestly, we were not on equal footing from the start and America should have to pay for its horrendous actions of the past. I dont like preaching inequality in either direction but certainly we cannot pretend like black people had all the same opportunities and are just lazier or some crap like that. That is nonsensical.
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      • Author by bluhawk7398 (November 14, 2009 5:56 am ET)
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        Blacks and other minorities are owed nothing!(Unless of course you can find one who was a slave at some point, descendants don't count) It's true that some people are born into less than promising financial and familial conditions, however that is hardly the fault of anyone else and to say that one group deserves reparations is ludicrous. You are forgetting that all races have their poor and destitute, it's not a "black thing". Also you are forgetting that plenty of whites are descendants of slaves ,share-croppers and indentured servants so who owes them?
        This nation used to be built on the idea that even a poor man could make the choice to pull himself up and be successful... no longer, the new American dream is "get rich quick, sue somebody" or at least find some way to ditch responsibility for your current position and get some money from someone else anyway.....
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        • Author by srichardson (November 14, 2009 7:44 am ET)
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          I think the whole point that could be argued is that all of America would benefit if we somehow found a way to get rid of poverty in this country. It's NOT a child's fault if they are born into a family that is destitute. That child deserves just as much of a chance at success as any other child. I'm not in any way saying that if you are rich you deserve not to keep your money, send your kids to private schools and colleges or to buy them a new car. I'm just saying that if we invested a little more time and money into the poverty stricken areas that we would all benefit. Education is the key. If you've ever had the opportunity to walk into a school in the inner city and compare that school to one in a rich suburb, I think you would see the disadvantage that many have. And I am in no way taking the blame off of the parents. It starts at home with a huge emphasis on education.
          The minute population who honestly believe that the government owes them something is wrong in their thinking and will never acheive the American dream. I'm saying that all kids deserve the same chance and we have to find a way to provide every kid that chance. And the solution is not school vouchers. The solution is to provide a quality public education to every child. And if that child isn't college bound, provide job training like they do in other countries. In most countries, they test kids in the lower grades and if they aren't capable of a college education they go into a different system that provides job training. It benefits the whole country. I know we spend a decent portion of tax dollars on the educational system, but it skewered to the wealthier population and it's not working.
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          • Author by pilotx (November 14, 2009 10:57 pm ET)
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            I like 90% of your comment except the part about testing young children and putting them on certain tracks. No need to say that kid can go to college but this one can't based on a test. There are numerous factors that go into education such as study habits that can be taught.
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        • Author by Handyman (November 14, 2009 11:42 am ET)
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          This nation was not built on the idea that even a poor man could make the choice to pull himself up and be successful. This nation was conquered by Christian based ideology that thought there was nothing wrong with taking the lifes of 20 million Native American Indians. What we are trying to do now as a civilized nation is to acknowlege those mistakes and recognize that those injustices to some degree have been perpetuated to the descendents. The mere fact that we still have Reservations indicate we have a lot of work to do.
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          • Author by jjamele2880 (November 14, 2009 7:16 pm ET)
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            The Horatio Alger "if you work hard and don't complain and save your money you will end up wealthy" model is just that- a myth. This country is full of people who work very hard and end up in poverty anyway (just like when Alger wrote his books.)

            Not to mention, the hero of the Alger books often turned out to be the heir to a massive trust fund, which sure didn't hurt his rise to the top.
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        • Author by traceofgreenn9773 (November 15, 2009 10:54 am ET)
             
          I agree totally. I have never met a slave. In fact, I have met many blacks who think they are owed something for what their ancestors had to endure.The only slaves in our country today are folks who are slaves to their own ignorance,arrogance,and sense of intitlement. I am almost 60 yrs. old and every since I was a kid (50 yrs. ago) Blacks in this country have had the same opportunity to attend the same schools I did and offered the same jobs.In my experience they have always thought that this country "owes" them something. If the truth be told, the opportunities they are afforded in this country are more than they could have, or would have achieved for themselves. Every time they are given anything for nothing they tear it up,steal it to sell it for what they want instead of for what they need.They were always disruptive in school because they used to say"you white folks make us go to your white school so we won,t learn anything about ourselves. Then they complain because they are given schools of their own, saying they are not getting the education that they complained about sooo much in the past.Aint no winning a debate when one side will not admit that they too have a few problems.
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    • Author by thundavolt (November 13, 2009 11:47 pm ET)
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      Why-o-why do these people believe from one day to the next everything can change. The inequality has only recently been reduced to more acceptable levels very recently. Everyone knows how frustrating it is to work hard in a company and never see yourself progressing. Imagine feeling like that your entire life. That put together with an environment that is not conducive to the development of a child is a very bad combination. It all comes down to the number of people who have managed to get out of that and the number that are stuck there. It is very disproportionate in minorities.

      You would think that the only black people who have ever made money are athletes, entertainers and black republicans. The black republicans are always caught on camera bashing the less fortunate. Successful black liberals do exist and they are realize there is some truth to the points these people are making. However these are not the only reasons why it is difficult for minorities progress.

      It is very important that they have a fair fighting chance so that if they do put in the work they can build themselves up. As a black person you are faced with having to far exceed or peers academically so that you can be on the same level. This put together with the fact that most people get jobs through recommendations makes it a very tough road. Parents just want to be able to get by so they can give their children a chance be who they want to be. Black people are hungry and want to work hard by nature they can put the work in. The reason why you end up seeing criminals is because they eventually find a way to make the money they have always dreamed of making. It takes a smart hard working person to be a criminal to be a rich one.

      This attack on the less fortunate needs to stop. On one hand you have some people who are content and believe that it all comes down to letting companies determine their fate and if they stay in line they will make it. On the other hand you have people how have seen the lie in the promise and are learning to feel defeated by it as each generation passes. They now believe a chance is coming and they happen to be black. There is nothing worse than asking someone to accept the order of things because you have created that order for personal benefit.

      We all know now that the "Free market" is really the "Unquestioned market" the need the people to be under their thumb to survive. The right is always spreading fer about an Orwellian system because the people at the top are running hypocritical Orwellian strategy.

      The right is so concerned about telling people how they should think and act and the left is trying to encourage people to think for themselves and question inconsistencies in the dream they are being sold.
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      • Author by chefjas1960 (November 14, 2009 2:45 am ET)
           
        "The right is so concerned about telling people how they should think and act"

        Most conservatives actually believe in an individuals right to determine their own destiny. Telling people how they should think and act is the last thing on any conservative's agenda. Freedom for the individual regardless of race, sex, creed, or financial status is our motto. No true conservatives are "attacking" the less fortunate as you say. The difference between our philosophies is that we believe that ANY man or woman should be free to pursue happiness unfettered by Government regulation that arrogantly supposes it knows what is good for me. Sorry, I know what is good for me, not my Government. It really comes down to freedom, something the left claims to embrace while at the same time chipping away at the facade of liberty with its chisels of restrictive legislation. Do those people less fortunate than me deserve my help? Absolutely! I just don't think that more Government spending, more social welfare, and more entitlement programs will help those in need to find a better life.

        There is a lot of hate, anger, and revulsion on this and other political sites I have visited lately, from both sides of the political spectrum. It is disturbing. We are all Americans and all want our country and its people to succeed and do better. It is a total falsehood that conservatives are racists, uncaring, greedy, and uninterested in anything except enriching themselves. We want the same things you do, we just feel there might be a better way to get there. I and a growing group of conservatives are completely disenchanted with the Republican party. Many of us (myself included) voted for Obama because we too, were sick of the leadership in Washington. He promised change and I personally could not support John McCain after he came out in support of the bailout. Obama is an extremely attractive candidate. He is the best public speaker we have had in the White House in 100 years. I and other independents who voted for him were excited to hear him promise to curtail earmarks and thrilled to hear him espouse "transparency" in government. We would soon be disappointed though when the very first piece of legislation he passed, the stimulus, was chock full of the same earmarks he promised us he would do away with. Well, we still held out hope. Then came healthcare reform meetings, totally held in secret and never being posted on the web as promised. Then the car company bailouts kowtowing to the Union bosses that had been promised a "seat at the table". It soon became clear to us that he is nothing more, better or worse than the rest of the a holes in DC. GOP, Democrat, whatever. If you think they have YOUR interests in mind, you're high. The current administration is beholden to special interest just as Bush and his cronies were. Bush and the boys were in the pockets of Wall Street, Obama and his posse dance to the tune sung by the powerful labor unions and special advocacy groups. Don't think for a minute that Blacks or any other minority or special interest group will get what they "deserve" from Obama. They will only get what every other group has gotten from their chosen politician. Only enough to get re-elected.
        Real change will not and cannot come about until the system is changed from the inside out. Without campaign finance reform, an absolute ban on any lobbying (special interest groups) of any sort in Washington, term limits for Congress, salary restructure for Congress that rewards progress and punishes waste, and a complete turnover of the current members of the house, senate, and administration nothing is going to change. We conservatives and liberals have much more in common than you think. We are both getting screwed by the fat cats in the beltway who are treated like rock stars from the moment the get to Washington. They make very good salaries and the Congressional pension plan ensures that if they don't get re-elected, the have a steady income and the best health care available for the rest of their lives! Who do you think created this system? They did! They lie, cheat, and steal. They don't pay their taxes, then sic the IRS on anyone who dares to question their integrity! Do you really believe Obama has your best interests in mind? Do you think he is going to take money from the rich and distribute it to the poor? Where do you think he eats? Wendy's $1 hamburgers? And even if he did redistribute the wealth in our country, do you really think that is the best way to raise those who are impoverished up from the gutter? By giving them someone else's money? REALLY? Have you heard the proverb, "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.? The politicians don't want to teach the poor to fish. They want to give them a fish for dinner. Why? Because then those people become dependent upon others rather than learning to take care of themselves. Wake up. Don't fall for the lies from both sides anymore. We the people of this great nation deserve better. I don't care if you and I are from different backgrounds, are of different races, or have different core beliefs. We both deserve to be represented by a government that is honest, ethical, and accountable to the people. Don't put your head in the sand and think that Obama and his crew are any better than Georgie boy and his homies. They are not! If people like you, I and others from different political persuasions could come together and demand better government, we might actually make a difference. Then again, we could keep doing the same old BS we have done for the last 100 years. Vote my guy in, vote yours out. Your guy in, mine out. Forever and ever and ever........
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      • Author by John Paradox (November 15, 2009 4:01 pm ET)
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        Why-o-why do these people believe from one day to the next everything can change.

        Consider how Rush, Sean, Glenn, et al change their claims not only day by day, but sometimes hour by hour (or word by word). There seems to be a lack or memory (both long term and short term) as an indication of just who these people are.
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    • Author by Publius39 (November 14, 2009 12:25 am ET)
         
      I can't believe that black people come on this show, assuming that they speak for my community, and basically agree with the same Conservatives that have blocked equal rights legislation for everyone. We (me included), are not a race of people that sit here with our hands out like people like Hannity and Beck would like you to believe. Don't feed into the hype, there are bottom feeders in every race, they should be lumped into the same barrel and not made to seem like its a problem that's inherent in the black community. This is tacit racism that is perpetuated by Fox News and carried out by blacks who have been brainwashed into believing that they are helping, but that's not the case.
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    • Author by blk-in-alabam (November 14, 2009 1:32 am ET)
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      Hannity is to doing a show on black people's motives.He should have his expert Jessie Lee Peterson on.He would let black people know that they owe 40 acres and a mule to pay for the trip here.
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    • Author by LIBERTY OR DEATH (November 14, 2009 2:00 am ET)
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      Sad but a true statement by Miss Borelli in some communities.

      Deep inside each one of us is a big dream struggling to free itself from the limitations of our past experiences,present circumstances,and self imposed doubts.
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    • Author by mjh (November 14, 2009 5:31 am ET)
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      Borelli on Hannity: A "big message" in black community is "you are owed something... and don't have to work hard"



      I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

      Thank goodness for Sean Hannity; for, without him, not ONLY would we never know how badly white people have it in this country, or how hard it is for Sean to give on-air rehab to racists [Hal Turner, Andy Martin, Dog Chapman] . . . we can always count on Sean to bring on plenty of white guests -- or, in this case, ONE SINGLE, SOLITARY BLACK WOMAN -- that have their fingers on the pulse of the ENTIRE African American community . . .



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    • Author by papa bear3 (November 14, 2009 6:16 am ET)
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      Let's see, I go to a school to be taught subjects to prepare me for jobs that no longer exist. Therefore I am forced to take 2 jobs that barely pay my rent and food bills, all this while my health deteriorates because of the stress of working these jobs.
      Because of stress and exhaustion my health deteriorates and because I have no insurance I use the emergency ward for my health care. I get layed off from one of my low paying jobs because I am starting to miss work because of my health, then I lose the other job eventually I go on unemployment and food stamps, and now I am being evicted because I can't pay my rent. So I join the military where everything is taken care of, and I can defend the system that gave me this opportunity. Hey the system works!!
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (November 14, 2009 9:58 am ET)
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      Borelli on Hannity: A "big message" in black community is "you are owed something... and don't have to work hard"

      Ok! Just ignore that every race in this country has a poor class. Since she is of african-american background she should smear her race on TV. How about defending our race and say that the education system is the problem, along with job growth. The more better paying jobs the more people do not have to rely on welfare.

      Job growth has stalled every since the 1980's. Our education system is horrible. Especially with privatation of plenty of school and the lack of intrest in public school. And they say people are lazy! YEAH RIGHT!
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    • Author by dadre (November 14, 2009 12:59 pm ET)
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      I wonder what black community she's from because last time I checked even in rap the message has always been the struggle and how you have to work much harder than others just to survive. If she's ever been in the hood then she has turned her back on it. She is an example of the worst thing for the black community. Almost saying I got mine with some help and instead of helping just saying you must pull yourself up with your own bootstraps when most don't have any and if they do their mother worked 3 jobs just so they can get one. The local judicial systems and the poor's enslavement to multiple low paying jobs has constantly hampered the lower class of all races but as Chris Rock joke, no one would change places with me and I' rich. I'm gonna ride this white thing out and see where it takes me. I don't think hannity has ever thought to himself before that maybe I got to where I am with a high school diploma maybe because of my racist antisemitic language and i'm not of certain ethnic groups. He should look on his network and think how many blacks other than Juan Williams are on face that aren't brought in just to bash their own race?
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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (November 14, 2009 3:44 pm ET)
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        I think it's true that black people receive public assistance/welfare/food stamps in disproportionate numbers to their percentage of the population (which is understandable to anybody but those completely ignorant of history), but most welfare recipients are white. If those whining about "welfare cheats" the loudest really care about the money, they should focus on white people.

        Unless it's about something other than their tax dollars. I know, that's pretty far-fetched. </sarc.>

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        • Author by mikehuck1976 (November 14, 2009 5:02 pm ET)
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          Social welfare cheats cost us almost nothing. Social welfare works. Most people who use WIC, food stamps, commodities use it for a few years and then move on. Corporate welfare is the huge cost and huge failure.
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          • Author by blk-in-alabam (November 15, 2009 8:42 am ET)
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            Welfare is limited to 5 years in USA.This is supposed to be aid for children.A child is not grown in 5 years.Many have gone past the 5 years,and strugling to make like everybody else.Is there a limit on corporate?Yes,what ever is in your budget to pay your local,state,and federal legislator.
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    • Author by Publius39 (November 15, 2009 10:41 pm ET)
         
      I never got that message. After the Marine Corps, two tours in Iraq, and a bachelors degree (hopefully I get my J.D. in three years), I've worked for everything I've gotten. I really need to check my email every once in a while...
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