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Fox News Watch's Scott asks if "Media Matters and other groups ... pushed out" Dobbs

November 14, 2009 3:26 pm ET

From the November 14 edition of Fox News Watch:

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    • Author by epkklk851 (November 14, 2009 4:07 pm ET)
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      I'm just one little person with a keyboard. I have no power over Mr. Dobbs. If Mr. Dobbs didn't like the pressure of people against him, perhaps he should have reconsidered his opinions or his expression of them. I am not really free to express my opinions about such things at work. I could be disciplined for doing so. Mr. Dobb's was at work and said some really unpleasant things that bothered a lot of people. He was there to report the news and not to be the news. When he became more important than what he was reporting, then it was time for him to go. The Government can't stop him from speaking, but his employers can refuse to give him a platform. Actions have consequences.
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      • Author by mjh (November 14, 2009 6:02 pm ET)
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        "He was there to report the news and not to be the news. When he became more important than what he was reporting, then it was time for him to go. The Government can't stop him from speaking, but his employers can refuse to give him a platform. Actions have consequences."


        Exactly, epk.

        Its funny how wingnuts like Dobbs, Beck, et. al., constantly proclaim their LOVE for the free market -- until it turns AGAINST them . . .

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        • Author by epkklk851 (November 15, 2009 10:48 am ET)
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          Yes, it is. It's also a hoot and a half that Fox, who regularly shouts down and cuts off the mikes of the opposition would be the ones leading the charge for free speech without the consequences.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (November 15, 2009 12:28 am ET)
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        The Government can't stop him from speaking, but his employers can refuse to give him a platform. Actions have consequences.

        Exactly. Goofy thing too... I saw his last broadcast, and as part of it he was reporting on how some church group (a coalition of several churces adn denomonations, actually) was petitioning to get Limbaugh, Beck and several others kicked off the air for their inflamatory rhetoric. (Of course there was no shortage of churches to come the their DEFENSE, but that's what FREE SPEECH is all about!)

        But Dobbs is acting like HIS (or Limbaugh & co's) FIRST AMMENDMENT RIGHTS were being curtailed! When are these idiots going to realize that free speech does not guarentee you a paycheck for speaking or a platform to speak from?!

        These guy harp on about the free market, and the ills of Government protectionsism, and then whine to the Government (that's who provides first ammendment protection, after all) when the FREE MARKET turns and bites them in the @$$. (And of course never once acknowledging the fact that the church running it's petition drive is, in fact, THEIR RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH, IN ACTION!)

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        It really doesn't matter what the SAY, becuase they don't STAND for anything! They have NO PRINCIPLES, only SELF-INTEREST.
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        • Author by epkklk851 (November 15, 2009 10:52 am ET)
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          Lou is a lot funnier about it than Carrie Prejean. I love how she is still milking her free speech issues and pouting about how she is being persecuted, on any show that will have her! In the meantime, she just keeps proving that some people are better seen and not heard.
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    • Author by draftedin68 (November 14, 2009 4:49 pm ET)
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      Pusher or Pushee?

      Not that this telepromter-ready dipschidt has the wherewithal to grasp the concept, but it wasn't so much that he was "pushed out," it was really all about what Lou was pushing.


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      • Author by mjh (November 14, 2009 6:09 pm ET)
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        And, as epkkkik851 pointed out above, 'twasn't really Media Matters that did the "pushing" -- it was his employers and advertisers who sponsored him. The "free market" at work. But, it's much easier for the simpletons at the Fox Comedy Channel to "ask" if a "Soros-funded site" was to blame . . .





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    • Author by worrierking (November 14, 2009 4:54 pm ET)
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      Maybe American just got tired of Lou's "Get off my lawn you damned Mexicans" routine.

      Although for the last few months he did yell, "get off my lawn and show me your birth certificate".



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    • Author by mikehuck1976 (November 14, 2009 5:09 pm ET)
         
      I have to say, I am a little confused on this Dobbs thing now. Does Media Matters want the credit for Dobbs resigning or are they being indignant that someone would dare suggest they were responsible for it. I can't stand Dobbs either way, I am just a little confused on Media Matters stance on this one.
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      • Author by LKL (November 14, 2009 9:05 pm ET)
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        I don't think Fox knows what it wants to say about this either - do they want to blame MMFA for crushing free expression or deny that leftie fringe groups have any real power?
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      • Author by DellDolly (November 15, 2009 1:16 am ET)
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        Dobbs' behavior got him pushed out.

        He's not a victim of MMFA.

        MMFA, however, did have a role in publicizing his behavior.

        MMFA is not "to blame". Dobbs was let go because he wouldn't do what his bosses told him he had to do, which was to do straight reporting on the TV show.
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    • Author by mhughen (November 14, 2009 5:18 pm ET)
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      ". . . left wing media campaign . . ."

      translation:
      calling out rascism.
      calling out erroneous facts and lies.
      calling out birtherism.
      using LDs on words to show his hypocrisy.

      call the frickin whammbulance . . .
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    • Author by princeofwheels (November 14, 2009 6:06 pm ET)
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      I often wondered how Luigi knew if someone was an illegal immigrant if he didn't see their birth certificate. That leads me to believe that he shouldn't be a journalist on CNN any longer.
      I hope he gets fired, is asked to leave or quits. And I'd like to see his birth certificate to see if he really is the bastard he portrays. Where is Phil Berg and Taintz when you need them.
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    • Author by Sharpe (November 14, 2009 6:53 pm ET)
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      Its a victory because our country should have standards for journalism. Oh she didnt like that one little thing that he was a racist and a bigot? Well Im sure all the other qualities were very pleasant when you take out that whoole constantly persecuting non-Americans shtick.

      I said it once and Ill say it again. it had absolutely nothing to do with a single comment or a single jab at a single group. It wasnt even the ocassional jab. It was in fact dobbs unrelenting obsession with clearly stating almost every night his disdain for immigrants and/or foreigners and/or illegals already in this country or even citizens that were foreign. It was chronic. its was like a sickness that knawed at him until he subcumb like OCD perhaps. But there is no place for that in the news and I dont think it was any one group alone that got him removed but I think everyone who took part in the effort deserves a congratulations and a thank you.

      I dont think all republicans should be purged from their role or even right wing nut jobs persay. jUST as long as they arent doing damage to the nation and journalistic credibility with their yammering. Look at Joe scarborough or even chris wallace to some extent. They are vehemently conservative and can for the most part, not erode our political debates with propaganda. Many of the conservative leaning on NBC, ABC and CBS do a fine job without bitterly infringing on the rights of others or making blatantly xenophobic remarks. Its not that hard. Dont launch into fiction, dont distort truth, dont misinform, dont spread propaganda, dont promote an ideology. You can report the news and you can even do the news and have an opinion and share it at the same time. JUst make sure you dont make stuff up and make sure your audience realizes that the opinion part is not the facts. WOW - soo hard I know but people have been doing it for decades now without all that much difficulty.

      I dont know if any one goes on youtube these days but FOX is clearly distorting the public perception. Some of the posters are just out of control. They have taken it beyond fox to their own little alternate reality of ridiculous concoctions.
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    • Author by Handyman (November 14, 2009 7:22 pm ET)
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      I journeyed over to "Fair and Balanced" to get an idea of what the Conservative side is saying on this issue, wasn't real pretty. While there I tried to answer a few questions a veteran had posted today but it would not let me post. Thought I must have said something out of character so I had several friends try to post and they had the same results.

      We finally figured out that "Fair and Balanced" must have a moderator that makes sure everything submitted is either inflamatory or in line with their point of view. This assures that their base stays outraged at all times - so much for "We Report you Decide".

      Isn't this the same News Organization that claimed President Obama was trying to indoctrinate our children? I wonder if those bloggers faithful to Fox realize they are being manipulated? Pretty disgusting.
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    • Author by pete592 (November 14, 2009 8:23 pm ET)
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      Like other right-wing professional liars, Dobbs wants his bigotry to inconspicuously blend in to his blurry mish-mash of opinon-journal-activism. Having the bigotry isolated and compiled makes the picture a little more clear than he prefers.
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      • Author by Sharpe (November 15, 2009 1:08 am ET)
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        I think his downfall was that he felt the need to bring it up on a nightly basis. I really think if he could have controlled his prejudice and only let it out sporadically, most people may not have even noticed. But discriminate against someone every day or rail on immigrants or talk like a xenophobe every day and you are just asking to be targeted. He knew he was getting into trouble because of his bigotry, he even said it on the air and he still couldnt stop himself from discussing it. Most mentally sane people would have completed avoided the subject at all costs but Lou would say in one breathe how he isnt a bigot and the next how immigrants are taking over the country. It was unbelievable. Its like he couldnt even control himself on the air. Most racist people can hold themselves back if need be or if their job was depending on it but not old Lou.
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    • Author by kllyfy (November 15, 2009 12:14 am ET)
         
      Im a conserva dem how did I get Mr.Dobbs pushed out? I'm a media matters member, so that makes me a liberal! Gosh, these personalities just obviously are really disconnected from the real world! Everyone that is connected to Media Matters are not just liberals yes we have some liberal views, but I disagree with a lot of stuff that Mr.Dobbs spewed on his show! The Birthers story was enough I've had it with that type of vitriol!
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    • Author by TadekKorn (November 15, 2009 3:04 am ET)
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      There's good reason for Scott and other hosts at FOX to be mightily interested in the destiny of Dobbs as he may well be replacing one of them in the not too distant future. Judy Miller is hardly a champion of the free press. If she were, she would not be a member of the FOX henhouse. And, for your information, with the likes of Dobbs (and Blitzer) on CNN, that network has long ago lost its credibility to the (small or upper case L) liberals.
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    • Author by ProgLib (November 15, 2009 6:56 am ET)
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      so i heard louie is going on oreilly's show for an interview. possibly a job interview on the network's highest rated show? i wouldnt be surprised.
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      • Author by John Paradox (November 15, 2009 2:41 pm ET)
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        Reminds me of the 'warning sticker'

        Engage brain before opening mouth.
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    • Author by dvdburner22 (November 15, 2009 12:24 pm ET)
         
      You got Van Jones - We Got Dobbs ,, Who's next ??
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