On Fox & Friends, Rove decides that Obama's bow was "inappropriate" and evidence of a "world-wide apology tour"
November 16, 2009 9:02 am ET
From the November 16 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:
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As noted this oba mao error in etiquette shows the true weakness of the American head of state. BTW the Japanese Emperor is not the Japanese head of state..
Got an explanation??
don't pretend to know diplomatic protocols when you don't
http://lefarkins.blogspot.com/2009/11/dwight-d-eisenhower-bowing-hour.html
and the bow is proper protocol when addressing a foreign head of state in their own homeland. just like the japanese emperor would be required to shake hands with the preisdent.
Showing respect to other cultures and ethnicities is a positve thing.The critics of a respectful bow act as if they,the USA and the president are too superior to show any respectful gesture like this..it last less than a second..and is over.No one is making policy based on it .It is neutral or maybe an encouragement for mutual respectful behavior!!Do these critics have any idea how it looks to the rest of the world when they criticize the president for just showing respect to another world dignitary!I just don't remember anything like this when Bush kissed and held hands with the Saudi King.That looked more odd or weak(to use ur words)!!!
The same critics went crazy criticizing the 1st Lady for (OMG) touching the (white) queen of England even though it was clear that she violated no protocols since the Queen touched her 1st!!!Sorry but I have to wonder about why the criticism when Arab and Asian Monarchs are shown respectful bows versus European Monarchs!!
There's a word, and it starts with "R." I would have no problem with the President bowing to a foreign King, but a kiss on the mouth is just a little too...., at least for my taste. I was a little surprised the Queen seemed so take with Mrs. Obama. I rather like the old gal, but I've never seen her so down and comfortable with someone before, it says something nice about both her and Mrs. Obama.
If Obama made an error, then so did every other president who has done the EXACT SAME THING.
I'd say that caused a lot more stress on the ruler of another country, hmm?
Rove-san no aho.
I know it may have escaped Mr. Rove's attention, but the world deserved an apology after he and Bush/Cheney tortured people. That was wrong of us, it was a much more profound desecration of the small 'r' republican ideals this country stands for, and, just for fun, if President Obama apologized, I have not seen the video. Or, is it all right to lie about this President, but not all right to point out painful truths about the last one?
Painful truths about the last one... That's right blame Bush, just how long do you think you can continue to point to the past and say "well it's Bush this and Bush that". Get over it, MOVE-ON. Bush wasn't perfect but he certainly better than whet we have now... I wonder who oba mao has as a puppet master, soros? the Chinese? trial lawyers, Oh yeah maybe SEIU and those freaks of nature.
pathetic
The United States has declared waterboarding torture and this country has executed those who have tortured our military.
Because a "POTUS condones torture' does not make it legal nor does it erase our history of RULE OF LAW!!! A chant republicans sang loudly during the Clinton Administration . .
Waterboarding is torture. Has been ever since it was invented. We prosecuted people who used this technique on captured U.S. soldiers. Mancow, a conservative radio host, was so sure it wasn't torture that he underwent it live. After just a few seconds, he had had enough, and, though reluctantly, he admitted that in his opinion it was torture.
I blame Bush because he and Cheney bullied their legal experts to give them some thin pretext to allow them to torture people. I blame them because they are responsible for this black mark on America. They are responsible for trashing the Constitution for fun and profit. Move on? Perhaps, after we have cleaned up the enormous mess those two hoodlums and those who worked for them left for us, and after all of them have been tried, convicted, and locked up. Perhaps then we can all move on.
You clearly know little about the SEIU, except what the liars at FOX Propaganda tell you to think. They are a union, true enough, and they work as a very large and effective group to ensure adequate pay and decent benefits to, among others, janitors and security personnel. They are hard working Americans, who just want a fair wage for an honest day's work. I can understand how, by voting Democratic and refusing to bow and scrape to their corporate masters, you might misperceive them as 'freaks of nature', but, that doesn't mean you're right, does it?
Bush was the worst president of the last 100 years. Ask anyone who still lives in New Orleans, in a trailer. Ask anyone who lost money in the Madhoff scheme. Ask anyone who lost their pension to Enron. Ask anyone who had a family member electrocuted in a faulty shower built by Halliburton. Ask almost anyone in this country who is not a millionaire, and you will find that they are mostly better off under just eight months of Obama than they were under eight years of Bush.
If you want pathetic, look in the mirror.
president theodore roosevelt sacked his general in the philipines, Gen. Miles, when it was discovered that said general had allowed waterboarding to occur.
get your facts straight
As long as it takes for Obama to clean up Bush's messes.
Get over it, MOVE-ON.
And how well did you guys "move on" by never blaming Clinton for things that happened on Bush's watch? Pretty darned poorly, as I recall.
Bush wasn't perfect but he certainly better than whet [sic] we have now...
My, that sure says a mouthful. You are as delusional as they come.
It's you who has no clue what you are talking about . . . and it becomes more and more obvious EVERY time you post something.
But then again that would mean that some one on the other side would have actually had to read history.
His career is sort of following the path of a real-life Larry David.
It's a wonder either could walk they're so weak in the knees.
I take it you never meet a person from Japan, as i work with a few and the minimum its a head bow went you greet them.
he describes exactly how you must bow when presenting yourself as a guest of theirs.
We show both ignorance and arrogance to criticize the President this way.When GW Bush at an Int'l gathering of world leaders was speakig thru an open mike using cuss words,mouth open,spitting food it was truly an embarrassment to see.Right wingers said .."don't be naive that's the way the big boys talk in private".Bush calling people A-holes and Cheny telling a US Senator to go F*** himself was somehow no big deal for these same conservatives that criticize everyting Obama!!!
you don't know what your talking about.
That's ridiculous. The Emperor extended his hand.
Obama tried to do what the Emperor's country would expect. The Emperor did what Obama's nation would expect for a greeting. They ended up doing both because the Emperor stuck out his hand.
So, if in Japan one never shakes hands while someone is bowing to you, why did the Emperor stick out his hand?
That talking point was debunked yesterday, since it doesn't make sense to blame Obama for violating Japanese protocol when it was the Emperor who stuck his hand out!!! You need to go back and berate whoever it was who sent you yesterday's talking points this morning, dum-dum.
Omae, tashika ni aho yaro na.
Physician, heal thyself.
The oba mao
That was almost cute the first time.
bow was NOT traditional, just wrong. In Japan one does not touch (shake hands) while bowing.
This has been taken apart by better-informed readers above, who obviously understand Japanese history and culture better than you do.
pathetic... ona mao [sic]
Do you realize how dumb you look when you use a tired insult and can't even spell it right?
will go down in history as the worst US president EVER, rivaled only bu jimmy carter...
Ah, a bit of weak mindreading, failed history, and crummy typing mixed into one portion of a sentence. Behold the neocon in all his glory! But seriously, G.W. Bush has that position on ice; frankly, no one else can compare right now. The previous bottom-dwellers were Grant, Harding, and Nixon (notice a party pattern?). Carter tends to settle around the middle somewhere; not great, but not a failure, either. It's too early to judge Obama, since he has more than seven years to go.
Snarf ! It's like a field guide for wingnut-watching. Is that a North American addle-pated teabagger?
I'm surprised Fox & Friends did not flash this photo ask Rove to explain it. Seems to me like a 'Fair and Balanced' thing to do.
Tis all about the 'ERL' baby . .
In former President Bush's new book, and his speaking engagements he acknowledges making some "mistakes" and he accept some blame for the current state of affairs, but no where do you see or hear Bush apologize to the America people.
Another American President, criminal Richard M. Nixon never apologized for his crimes.
Something is seriously wrong when a man can acknowledge wrong, but can't apologize for it.
He will say anything, repeat any lie and tell people to accept it as truth. I am tried of going over the many successes Obama achieved during his short run as President, but I can assure you Bush did not give a damn about YOU or the American people during his term as President.
you can't name a single one. so stop it
Yup, looks like Rove is up to his old tricks again!!!
What about the fake reports and studies the "LIBS" are producing? I have more faith in the chamber of commerce than the likes of barney franks, chris dodd and the other institutionalized crooks.
"Republican Party discrimination against members of their own party with moderate views" Hmmm what about Joe Lieberman? Now THAT'S discrimination of someone with MODERATE views. The woman in NY was by no means a moderate, pro-abortion, pro-oba maocare, pro-cr*p&trade? hmm real moderate.
It would be great if Cheney runs in 2012... maybe we can get back to reality...
You must be a big fan of this movie.
How can you support that man? He is the terrorists' best friend. See terrorism only works if the targets give them what they want. Under the Bush/Cheney regime, Americans were taught to be fearful and to allow the government to take away basic Constitutional rights. The terrorists didn't have to ever attack us again . . . destruction of our way of life was their goal . . . . they almost won under Bush/Cheney.
Unbelievable, really!!
Whadda they gonna tell Jesus about their hypocracy?????
Hypocrisy - Just because you call it hypocrisy doesn't make it so...
hypocrisy - when the liberals are not held to the same standards as conservatives... In otherwords mediamatters.org
Let's just hope our president doesn't have to meet King Bhumibol of Thailand. When I met the crown prince I had to be on my knees with my nose touching the floor because of lèse majesté. This law is often used by Thailand's government to imprison political rivals and journalists, even foreign correspondents, who they accuse of "insulting" the royal family.
The irony of this is that King Bhumibol was born in Cambridge, MA while his father was attending Harvard. Bhumidol was then educated in Switzerland. He should know better than to allow this lèse majesté stuff to go on in a country that is the economic jewel of southeast Asia.
Is there anyone more predictable in the country?