Gretchen Carlson calls winning health care reform video "disingenuous" because she doubts uninsured don't get treated for cancer

"Maybe that does happen in some cases."

It should not happen in any case. Repugs talk about Obama death panels, but if we are letting children die from Leukemia, even in some cases, sounds like there are already death panels.

Then how does she explain the fact that people who already have insurance sometimes have to fight the insurance company to pay for treatment?

Cancer treatments in the emergency room?

A couple of months ago I had a strange tingling and tension in my chest, so I went to the emergency room. It was nothing (as I figured) but the nurse said that they stabilize people who have heart attacks, and then kick them up to another ward if further treatment is required. This wasn't news to me, of course, and that's what's so dumbfounding about Carlson's remarks. An ongoing condition is not an "emergency". You can't go to the ER and say you need chemotherapy and "put it on my tab which I haven't made any efforts to pay off".

This is like watching a child almost come to the realization that there's no Santa Claus. There's this slight hesitation as if there's a spark of recognition that the world may not work like the fairy tale she's accustomed to believing, but then she goes on believing it.

Retchin'Gretchen, you need to watch Keith's show from a couple of days ago, when he reported on the free clinics that treated 1000 people, mostly because they were limited by the amount of equipment available for donation to the clinic. There was a woman who came in and refused further treatment after the diagnosis. She had Fourth Stage Breast Cancer. She was dead already. People do come in to emergency rooms with things that turn out to be life-threatening things like cancer, but many of them don't get treatment for anything more than the symptom that drove them there in the first place. They get a bandaid and they get sent home and told to seek treatment, but that doesn't mean they will be given the chemo or surgery that would cure their illness. And if they are illegal, then people like Wretch don't want them treated. I guess they should just be kicked to the curb to die. I knew a little girl who died of leukemia. No one knew she had it, until she was minutes away from dying. She had been a little run down, with a cold, people thought, but they never thought it was leukemia. (And she had insurance, and a fairly bright mother!) She was taken to an emergency room in a foreign country and she died within hours of being taken to the hospital. Retchin' just because in your whitebread, middle class world, everyone has insurance and a regular doctor, doesn't mean that others do. You should remember what I always try to remember, there but for Grace, go I.

Uh, my parents had insurance and I still didn't get the proper treatment when I got cancer at 13. Now, we got the operation covered and then they paid for the first round of radiation sessions. However, they then decided that I didn't need additional sessions because they were "medically unnecessary." Never mind that giant masses of cells were still there, that's not cancer! They were quite generous though, they did offer to pay for a significantly less expensive form of radiation therapy. Except, due to the location of the treatment, it had a decent probability of causing permanent brain damage. The doctors tried to explain that to them,but apparently the risk was "very small" according to the insurance company, despite the majority of medical literature saying otherwise. But what do actual researchers know? Some guy with little to no medical background at an insurance company knows what's up. Clearly, I'm just being too picky though. Ah, brain damage ah the cancer is still actually there - details details! My parents nearly went into bankruptcy to come up with the additional funds for my treatment since we weren't eligible for government support because we had "insurance" and our income was too high for government aid. If we would have been slightly poorer, they would have had to file bankruptcy no question.

Now, if I get sub-par treatment with a supposedly great insurance policy (at least it was the best my parents could afford at the time) - I wonder how the uninsured that aren't eligible for medicaid get treated?

FYI Gretchen, getting treatment for cancer is not when doctors uselessly attempt to save your life as you are being rolled into the ER as your organs are failing.

Gretchen Carlson calls winning health care reform video "disingenuous" because she doubts uninsured don't get treated for cancer

No they will get treated Gretchen! Once they are treated though, they will get medical bills they can not afford that will lead to bankruptcy and other financial troubles because they are not insuured! DUH! Quit cherry picking!

Well, I know of a 30 year old man right now who has a blood cancer who IS insured and isn't getting the care he needs. He has had his medications . . . those prescribed by his doctors . . . denied twice. The first time, they relented, but the co-pay was so high, he had to get assistance from the drug company. This time, they are refusing to pay for it at all, so he is having to appeal to the drug company. His doctor is frustrated and so is his family. His cancer is treatable and manageable, but it's expensive and the insurance company doesn't want to pay for his care.

...says the millionaire bobblehead FOX bimbo, who's biggest worry is that her taxes might go up 1%.

What an idiot!! People like this should suffer the ills of poverty.

Don Hanley>> The bubble headed bleach blond, comes on at five, she can tell you about the plane crash with gleam in her eyes.

So, tell me, Ms. Carlson: How many little kids have to die from untreated leukemia before it matters? If one abortion is one too many, then, why don't you care about these precious lives after they're born?

Because abortion is something that, being wealthy, you know you'll always have access to, and it's a really easy emotional choice to make for others, right? And it all seems so black and white and simple in that bottle-blonde head of yours, doesn't it?

When it comes to health care, it actually is simple. We all deserve health care. Every last one of us. Even illegal immigrants, because however they got here, and wherever they came from, they're still people, no better and no worse than you. And if that means the wealthiest 5% of Americans have to go without a second vacation home, or a garage full of cars, or a private jet, then I guess that's just a sacrifice you will have to make.

what a blind ignorant and uncaring witch. It must be so nice to sit on your soapbox "throne", eating like a glutton and spewing that others around her "simply cannot be starving".

the three stooges once again gettin their facts wrong,,,stick to the talking points gretchen you're off scrict again,,these 3 sicken me

To admit your ignorance like that so blatantly Gretchen... nobody goes to the emergency to get cancer treatments.

People go to the emergency room because their untreated cancer has caused them to stop breathing or incredible pain. They are treated to the point that they can survive and released.

Cancer treatments are done at specialized medical centers. Radiation treatment is a daily treatment for 4-6 weeks. Chemotherapy is a regular weekly or twice weekly treatment done at specialized office.

It's absurd that you believe children don't actually die because they don't have insurance... do you find that appalling?? Well it's about time.

Uninsured trauma patients are much more likely to die

Uninsured people don't get the best treatment after traumatic injuries and they don't get the best treatment after significant disease diagnoses either. Why not?

The researchers offered several possible explanations for the findings. Despite the federal law, uninsured patients often wait longer to see doctors in emergency rooms and sometimes visit ERs at several hospitals before finding one that will treat them. Other studies show that, once they're admitted, uninsured patients receive fewer services, such as CT and MRI scans, and are less likely to be transferred to a rehabilitation facility.

Patients without insurance may have higher rates of untreated underlying conditions that make it harder to recover from trauma injuries, the researchers said. They also may be more passive with doctors and nurses because they don't interact with them as often. All of these factors could influence whether a trauma patient is able to recover.