Norah O'Donnell stumps Palin supporter by asking about Palin's support of bailouts
November 18, 2009 4:18 pm ET
From the November 18 edition of MSNBC Live:
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My favorite part (about :30 seconds in) when the young woman is told that Palin was for the bailouts,and responds that if you asked her today, she would say she was against them.
The guy tries to cover a little by saying it was a trick, but I think the woman was more honest.
" I reject your reality, and I'm sure Sarah Of The North would reject it if she were here."
Keep upholdin' that Constitution!
Palin was for it before she was against it. Doesn't that have a familiar ring to it...
Norah was obviously prepared with her handy piece of paper. I wonder what it says the response would be to the fact that Palin does now say she is against it.
Obama said that passing the second stimulus bill unemployment WOULD NOT GO ABOVE 8 PERCENT, but here we are at 10.5 percent, explain that??? adn don't blame Bush because he didn't sign the second one
The stimulus package, passed under Obama, was the FIRST stimulus, not a second one. Also, Obama never "promised" that unemployment would stay at or below 8%. It was a PROJECTION by a staffer, as part of an economic report on the effects of a stimulus package.
But speaking of projections made by presidential administrations: didn't Bush et al PROMISE that we'd "be greeted as liberators" in Iraq, and that the war would "pay for itself" and that we'd be there "six weeks, I doubt six months," and that Saddam had "ties to al Qaida" and "WMD"?
Funny how Bush bots forget those WILD projections, but have a strong memory for ONE number in a report issued back in January.
Randy
The bleeding hearts wanted to carry out a more sensitive war and not hurt any one. Well tell that to the people who die in 9/11 we should have vilified them and made sure everyone knew who the enemy was.
For everyone of ours we should have killed 100 thousand of them
Saddam Hussein hating us and everything the United States stands for. Just as Bin Ladan. Would you rather Saddam still be out there plotting to destroy us? If that were to happen, Bush would be blamed for not doing anything to stop it.
What exactly was Saddam gonna use to "destroy us"?
You seem to have a highly disturbing sense of bloodlust.
Secondly and even more importantly, where is YOUR thought process, Mr. Xerox.
It was written and passed by the democratically controlled congress and signed into law by Bush. Remember how angry Pelosi was at the repubs that voted against it.
That estimate was based upon the preliminary numbers that Congress had gotten for the last quarter of 2008. Turns out that when they got the final numbers later in the month, they knew that the numbers were much worse than had been projected - those last 3 months under Bush were extremely bad economically. So the worsening numbers made unemployment get worse. It's not that his stimulus plan was flawed - it's that the numbers they were basing the projection upon in early January weren't final numbers, and the final numbers were terrible. Not Obama's fault.
Sarah Palin, according to her two oh so bright supporters was for the bailout before she was against it...
Uh huh, I see
Kind of makes me wish Nora had asked those two light bulbs about John Kerry being for a certain amount of money before he was against it and see if the reaction would have been the same.
Or was that against it before she was for it? I don't know I find this all so confusing.
Or, when she was a supporter of Ted Stevens before she was against him . . .
They are asking questions to the regular government-fearing, blinked & opinionated, grass-roots of the GOP!!
OMG
I feel like I have just witnessed child abuse.
Of course, the left wing media said "hundreds."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091118/ap_on_bi_ge/us_palin_book_tour
This is the new conservative mantra - the 10 Factor. Any right wing nut crowd is 10 times bigger than the media think it was...
InSannity also calls "TARP" a Democrat program because Democrats supported it, voted for it, and are now in charge of it.
What a great example of conservative taking personal responsibility! Who was President when TARP passed? Who was in charge of the Senate and House? Who had a White House Summit (now a dumb idea for anything, back then genius, of course).
I think it should be powers of 10:
10^1=10
10^2=100
etc.
Like her or not (and I don't), Palin has touched something in a lot of people and while many of them are nothing more than exploited sheep bleating the talking points (i.e., this couple), I'm sure there are some Palinites who could discuss issues with more felicity of expression than these two. This clip is what Palin refers to as the "gotcha" media.
That said, if this pair is indicative of the majority of Palin supports, the run-up to 2012 could be wildly entertaining and/or end up polarizing the country even further. Not a good thing. I think Obama got it right when he said "we are not red states or blue states but the United States." No one "took the country" from these people, unless their citizenship was somehow revoked.
In a crowd of people camping out overnight to buy Sarah Palin's book ? You're much kinder and more optimistic than I, AB-001.
But I agree, if Palin runs, it will be wildly entertaining.
Nora O'Donnell was acting in this case like a real journalist. She was not condescending at all. She went to an event of rabid Palin supporters and merely asked one of them a very unpleasant question, in a very respectful way.
Those who are blind followers, whether right or left, should be asked questions to see if they have all the facts.
Since you are a Fox fan, you apparently don't understand that.
I'm a little surprised that anyone believes that's "fair".
Personally I think a large portion of the electorate really is not all that savvy on either side and it is probably much harder to find a knowledgeable person than it is to find morons.
I think it is also fallacious to view such a sample and get from it some feeling of superiority, because there are people that share our support for candidates that are just as poorly informed on the issues.
Yes, I'm being generous. Part of giving their country back to these clowns who feel it's been taken from them, whatever that means. Charity, charity, charity...a good liberal principle invented by some entity called "God," right? And them Palinites like this God guy, right? ;-)
God we can hope for that cannt we?????
Who could you be talking about, Mark Hill, Ellis Henican, Bob Beckel, Jerry Ferrarro, Jerry Brown, Willie Brown, Bill Burton etc etc etc. Do any of those folks qualify? There are many more to choose from, perhaps you can enlighten us.
Now once you show me where this is specified, tell me how it's measured. Is it government spending? If it is, is it an absolute number, per person, percent of GDP, just what is it?
Is it number of employees? If so, employees per person in the country, total salaries as a percent of GDP?
Come on you right wing ditto heads, please let me know. I am anxiously awaiting the definitive answer.
"Nobody move, or this piece of paper gets it"
(ref: GWB)
Btw, why did MSM Producers at CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and NBC join FoxNews in sending their Reporters out to Palin's Book signing anyway? How is this News? Couldn't they just read Palin's Facebook page to see how things went, LOL.
I feel a connection to Palin also- everytime I hear her speak I get a headache
What most people don't realize is that we never expended $700 billion. We had committed to spend $653 Billion between the banks, AIG and Auto companies.
We have spent $453 Billion...
And one should tell that dimwit guy who said that TARP was one thing and then became another... when the TARP was approved, the money had no conditions.
Once President Obama took office and started to put conditions on the money, the Banks started to repay the funds as fast as they could to the tune of about $73 Billion. TARP has also received almost $800 Million in interest and dividends which isn't a lot, but given it's been less than a year it's pretty significant.
Who knows how much TARP will cost us in the long run... if AIG can repay their money and the car companies, it might be a wash after 10 years but probably not...
Regardles... if everyone defaulted today, the cost of TARP would be around $360 Billion... so I wish people would educate themselves a little before printing their stupidty on T-Shirts.
We still ahve $315 Billion available for distribution, which I doubt will happen...
"Congress shall make no law that creates a bigger government."
Not the guy in the lane next to mine. My car was fully in front of his in the right lane and he was in the left, and he was under the mistaken impression that I was somehow supposed to cede the right of way to him, and I don't know, wait until all the cars in the left hand lane had gone first? So, what does he do when we find another stretch of 2 lane road, and he wants to turn left? He pulls up alongside me, hollers a few swear words and flips me off, like I was the one in error there!
Uneducated people trying to tell those of us who know what we're talking about can be frustrating at times if you let it. I simply know that I'm better and smarter than they are, and that simple knowledge is enough for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8&feature=related
"Well, if you ask her NOW, she'd say she wasn't for the bail out."
So, what she says NOW is more correct than what she said then?
My head hurts.....
I think I'll go back to staring at the Newsweek cover. Palin's not half bad, as long as she doesn't talk. ;-)
What a joke and so damn obvious too.
Randy
If you look real closely, and play it back in ultra-slow motion, you can see their lines written on the backs of their hands, and at the end Norah slips them each a twenty. Don't believe me? Go look!
Boy, you've been watching WAY too much Beck.
Another uninformed winged nut! Hey Bbubba!, MSNBC doesn't stream in HD 480 is the best resolution available...try again!!! These are just two of the millions misinformed Fright Wingers...and your comment makes 3!
MSNBC started streaming HD 1080i back in June of this year on some cable providers.
I, for example, vetted all of my "U R So Dum U Voted Fer Obammaa in 2009" t-shirts, for accuracy and spelling.
Randy
My thing is these right-wingers say uphold the constitution. I wonder do they know that Congress has the power to regulate COMMERCE! The bailouts was needed do to the failure of COMMERCE! The influience of the free market has led this country to forget the duties of legislative branch of government. That is why we seen the regulation of COMMERCE between the years of 1933 - 1980. Only afterwards to see the influience of people to forget that power and led to the failure of COMMERCE again. Now it is time for regulation and to keep COMMERCE fair like it should be.
i figured it was no good even addressing the situation and that the two people would flip out, but luckily those morons got a little history lesson.
unfortunately, this is what we have come to in the criticism of journalism these days... they cant even ask hard questions anymore or some member of the ilk will get offended.
Exactly right, look at all of the whining the Obama administration has done. Help Michelle, Fox is picking on me again.
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Does that mean that Norah was in favor of the Bush administration TARP action?
She is a joke!!!
a grown woman reading off a peice of paper in her hand really "hands" it to a 14 year old. i bet she searched up and down the line of 1500 people to find that one 14 year old thats real good reporting, top of the line. she deserves some kind of award. i think the 14 year old did a good job considering she was put on the spot by a grown lady that works in the new business reading off a peice of paper in her hand.
Laugh all you want at this teen, your enlightened democratic voters can't even identify the person they vote for. If Obama wasn't black they probably wouldn't even remember him either.
Someday this girl will look back on this and the interview will be a faint memeory and Nora will be washed.
A more savvy operator might have noted that Sarah's public position as a vice-presidential candidate had better have been in line with the presidential candidate, despite any private objections she might have. Only once they were disaffiliated was she free to depart from McCain's position. Such an operator might also have noted that they were capable of supporting a politician without agreeing with all of their positions. There are many directions she could have gone, had she been a professional armed with talking points.
Someone asked what size government should be. I suggest it should be limited to the size necessary to faithfully execute the enumerated powers in the Constitution:
"...The Congress shall have Power - To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof. ..."
We can proceed from there, if anyone would care to have a laundry list of enumerated powers and powers that the federal government has appropriated for itself.
I have a question for those who are so "outraged" that this 17 year old girl was asked a question about her political beliefs. Did you have a problem when many on the right attacked kids/teenagers to bash Obama? This has happened many times and here are some notable examples. There was two occasions where a young kid asked Obama a question at a town hall. Right wing media (Fox and blogs etc.) and people on this forum claimed they were "plants", bashed their parents... among other things. All because they asked the POTUS a question.
Or how about when the 2 videos showed kids singing a song for Black History Month? The right wing media and people on this forum claimed the kids were "brainwashed by Obama", "indoctrinated by Obama", bashed the parents and etc. Fox did not even bother editing out the kids faces when they first aired the videos on national TV.
Conservative pundit Michelle Malkin has attacked kids/teens many times over the years to as targets. Since Obama has been elected I can think of at least 3 times where she did just that. In August, she attacked an 11-year old because she stood up and asked Obama a question at a town hall forum. She smeared second graders because they sang a song in honor of the President during Black History Month. She ridiculed teenagers who took part in the White House's volunteer initiative!
So.... did you have a problem with attacking/politicizing of those kids/teenagers? Or do you have double standards? It seems some do not care if a kid/teen is attacked as long as they're used to bash Obama or a democrat. If you have a problem with politicizng children, then be consistent with it, regardless of the situation. Otherwise your credibility is gone when you get all bent out of shape because a 17 y/o girl was asked about Sarah Palin at a Sarah Palin book signing.