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Palin is "all for" "profiling" in order to "save innocent American lives"

November 18, 2009 10:04 pm ET

From the November 18 edition of Fox News' Hannity:

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    • Author by princeofwheels (November 18, 2009 10:19 pm ET)
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      Sarah, politically incorrect. Those people were cowards for not speaking up.

      Also, should we profile those soldiers that have died who have Arabic or Hispanic names? How about you son? Should he be profiled because his mother and father were part of a cessation group in Alaska?

      Sarah, you have no idea what being an American entails and please, read the Constitution or at least have someone explain that document to you. Apparently, you understand freedom of speech. If you could get past the First Amendment, you'll notice there are a few more.

      And you are still the QOTUS who gave up her job of responsibility to follow the riches. You are a hypocrite.
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      • Author by fairliberal (November 19, 2009 12:59 am ET)
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        "How about you son? Should he be profiled because his mother and father were part of a cessation group in Alaska?"

        What stupidity!
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        • Author by Brabantio (November 19, 2009 1:43 am ET)
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          Why is that stupid? It would seem just as legitimate to cite that sort of association as a trigger for profiling as anything else. Have we never been attacked by domestic terrorists?
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          • Author by fairliberal (November 19, 2009 11:44 am ET)
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            What does a cessation group have to do with terrorism?
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            • Author by Brabantio (November 19, 2009 11:59 am ET)
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              What does the Michigan Militia have to do with terrorism? It seems like groups that support cessation are more likely to harbor fringe elements. By the same logic as "some Muslims are extremists therefore we should profile", the same would certainly go for any number of other groups.

              The point you seem to be missing is that Islam is not inextricably connected to terrorism.
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              • Author by fairliberal (November 20, 2009 9:02 pm ET)
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                The point you seem to be missing is we should be looking at the places and at the people who are most likely to be terrorists. The point you seem to be missing is all of these terrorists were indeed Muslims. The point you seem to be missing is that incidents like the Ft Hodd event might have been avoided if people were not so afraid of being politically incorrect. The point you seem to be missing is that these terrorists use sleeper cells and sleeper agents.

                And the Muslim community could do themselves a lot of good if they took an active role in rooting out these people. Some do, most don't.
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                • Author by Brabantio (November 20, 2009 10:31 pm ET)
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                  All of what terrorists? Palin is talking about one person. Assuming you're talking about 9/11, so what? Of course a plot hatched by radical Muslims is going to be carried out by said Muslims. Why does that justify profiling any particular Muslim?
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                  • Author by rojo7449 (November 21, 2009 12:55 pm ET)
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                    Profiling is done all the time by police departments; it helps them find suspects. But, I think SP was really trying to convey what the families and friends of those killed at Ft Hood wish the military had done...act on all the red flags this man threw out there about his mental stability and true feelings about the wars.

                    She's not politically correct. Life in Alaska with 5 kids and a husband who's gone half the year doesn't really allow for much interaction with the lower 48 on such things.
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                • Author by SMTDL (November 21, 2009 1:25 pm ET)
                     
                  Yes the Muslim community should help root out their extremists ..just like conservatives should root out bigots,racists violent seditionists etc..within their ranks but they don't.Billbords up calling the President a jihadist,proclaiming war against the government,etc.etc..Almost no Republicans/High profile Conservatives address this at all.Even dispicable teabagger signs of racist and Nazi images are excused awaya s insignificant.Talk about associations!!!!.They even attacked Homeland Security and Secret Service Reports for identifying the increase in threats to the President from right wing hate groups!! It seems hypocritical to be so silent when the violence poptential is against minorities or the Government!!!
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            • Author by clenny (November 21, 2009 7:28 pm ET)
                 
              Sorry to be the spelling police but I think you mean: secession.
              Cessation means to cease or stop doing something as in 'smoking cessation'. But I did get your meaning.
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        • Author by princeofwheels (November 19, 2009 2:32 am ET)
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          You are right again fairly, profiling is stupidity. Why not just profile everyone...jerk
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        • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (November 19, 2009 5:38 am ET)
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          Lets see, which is a closer relationship, parents and children, or having a surname that sounds Arabic?

          If you're going to criticize something, would you at least think something through before you open your mouth.
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          • Author by rojo7449 (November 21, 2009 12:59 pm ET)
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            Like Obama? Or a middle name like Hussein? Sheesh....could it be more obvious that the posters and commenters here have a double standard?

            There were websites dedicated to the massive embellishments made in Dreams of my Father and the other book he wrote. He blatantly lied to everyone through his campaign rhetoric, but that's okay because he's one of us liberals. I actually hold the liberals to a higher standard because I do identify with them over conservatives. That seems to be rapidly diminishing, though.
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        • Author by Samurai Cowboy (November 19, 2009 8:54 am ET)
             
          Really? The how about profiling the members of the Oath Keepers? The vast majority of their members are active duty military who are advocating removing a legally elected President because most of them follow Orly Taitz and her Birther Brigade.
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        • Author by shaggles (November 19, 2009 12:10 pm ET)
             
          You're right. That wouldn't be profiling.
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    • Author by Bad News (November 18, 2009 10:19 pm ET)
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      "Give Me Racism or Give me Death"

      Sarah Palin
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      • Author by Mr. Buzztime (November 19, 2009 2:36 am ET)
           
        "Give Me Racism or Give me Death"

        Sarah Palin


        That is a totally absurd statement. Period.
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    • Author by oustudent1 (November 18, 2009 10:34 pm ET)
         
      sarah palin 2012 campaign promises..

      1. kick muslims out of the U.S.
      2. sell all of ANWR to Exxon.
      3. exterminate all wolves for eating what humans hunt for pleasure.
      4. take over any country visible from alaska.
      5. appoint dobbs head of immigration task force, rushbo to supreme court, and billo to look over the economy.
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (November 18, 2009 10:36 pm ET)
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      I cannot fin my canof BS Repellent spray. Think I used it up when Hannity swooned over GW Bush in 2000.
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    • Author by Sks1 (November 18, 2009 10:47 pm ET)
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      did i not suggest that hannity would fawn all over palin in his cupcake lovefest not gonna call it a interview even. she's fine with profiling, how about profiling her husband and son and her entire family because they alledgely belonged to a group that wanted to succeed from the united states,,,would we be fair in saying that her family were extremists?...go ahead sarah make your money from this book tour and plz go away
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      • Author by fairliberal (November 19, 2009 11:45 am ET)
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        Yeah, please leave some money for Al Gore and his global warming fiction. He need a new jet.
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        • Author by soze169880 (November 19, 2009 12:09 pm ET)
             
          What does this have to do with ANYTHING? This is an even more bizarre non sequitur than the usual "REVEREND WRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!"
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    • Author by williamf75 (November 18, 2009 10:57 pm ET)
         
      may God help us all if she becomes elected President.

      Should it happen, hopefully some other countries will be sympathetic to the thinking class in America, and offer political asylum.

      Can you even begin to imagine how bad things would be if McCain and Palin were elected? I mean, look at at how rough it's been for Obama.

      Maybe the Mayans were on to something when they ended the world in 2012. I really see no other outcome should she be elected POTUS.

      Scary times.
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    • Author by open_mind (November 18, 2009 11:14 pm ET)
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      Is anybody surprised that people who believe they would never be profiled are the ones that are all for it?

      I thought it was pretty cool going through security in the UK (Gatwick), they actually program the metal detectors to go off at random along with the normal metal detector functionality. I thought it was a very good idea. You get extra checks without invoking good old fashioned human prejudice and bigotry that Palin seems to prefer.
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      • Author by jaeger (November 18, 2009 11:48 pm ET)
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        I also had the same experience at Gatwick and had an interesting conversation with the security screener while has was very professionally going through my carry-on. He said that Americans were far more sensitive than Europeans to security checks and would often argue when the random metal detectors went off rather than just quietly letting the security people do there jobs. At work, my car is subject to random screening every day as well as myself while walking into my building and at points within the building. Doesn't bother me because I know I'm safer for it. Profiling does nothing other than enforce bigotry against those who look, act, and talk different compared to some sort of "standard." I would love for Sarah to define her "standard" for all to see.
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      • Author by thundavolt (November 18, 2009 11:36 pm ET)
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        You beat me to it. I only opened the comments section to say the same thing.
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        • Author by SLRTX (November 19, 2009 12:35 pm ET)
             
          thundavolt -- Sorry 'bout that! ;-)
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        • Author by princeofwheels (November 19, 2009 2:35 am ET)
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          Nope, can't profile someone who quit her elected position to make a buck. And she is empty.

          Her answers to all questions are comparable to the Centerfolds and their pat answer...World Peace. Mrs. Palin speaks in headlines..no substance.
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        • Author by SLRTX (November 19, 2009 9:23 am ET)
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          Find a fact in her book, then come back and tell me how ignorant I am.
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      • Author by dusaa1975 (November 19, 2009 8:32 am ET)
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        Admittedly, I am from the old school. But i feel that calling a woman a "dumb M.I.L.F." is far beyond derogatory, is it demeaning and sexist.
        However I am a right wing neanderthal, therefore the liberal view must be the correct one.
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    • Author by soze169880 (November 18, 2009 11:27 pm ET)
         
      "Unless, 'a'course, innocent American Arabs are bein' detained and killed, and also such as, which is what baby Jesus would want, you betcha also. I have children. Vote fer me also."
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    • Author by mjh (November 19, 2009 1:58 am ET)
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      Palin is "all for" "profiling" in order to "save innocent American lives"


      Good -- I say we begin profiling caucasian hockey moms from the far northwest who are hunting enthusiasts; there's no telling what damage they're capable of inflicting on this country, especially if they're let loose on unscripted interviews . . .


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    • Author by Midnight Kevin (November 19, 2009 2:19 am ET)
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      I find it interesting... Conservatives preemptively strike the opposition by saying they will be attacked for their own words later on...

      Taking Palin's message into consideration involving other issues, it would be okay to pull over every African American you see on the road in a predominantly white neighborhood because they don't belong. Muslims in the military? Don't belong. Gays? Don't belong. Communists? Don't belong.

      It is easy to label people the enemy and attack without understanding a single thing.
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      The Midnight Review
      Mum Is The Word
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      • Author by princeofwheels (November 19, 2009 2:40 am ET)
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        Maybe the military should be made up of twenty-thirty something christian, well-educated, white males from families with incomes over $500,000 a year. Then we will have the best of the best defending their families. I am sure that they can't all go to Alabama to dodge their enlistment. Some may actually have to fight.

        Another interesting study would be to find the average family income of those that have died in Iraq?
        If we are going to profile, let's do it the right way. Not the Con way.
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        • Author by fairliberal (November 19, 2009 11:49 am ET)
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          Where did your hero go to avoid the service? We know where Clinton went, how about the Obamanation.
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          • Author by Brabantio (November 19, 2009 12:01 pm ET)
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            Where did Obama go to avoid Vietnam? Seventh grade. The man was born in 1961, in case you didn't know.
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            • Author by fairliberal (November 20, 2009 9:08 pm ET)
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              Did I mention Vietnam? No I didn't think so. Another distortion, in case you didn't know.
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              • Author by Brabantio (November 20, 2009 10:10 pm ET)
                   
                What does "avoid the service" mean if you aren't talking about the draft? What was the last war that had a draft? And how does the Clinton reference make a damn bit of sense if you aren't talking about Vietnam?

                We're supposed to believe that you meant "how did Obama not willingly join the armed forces?", apparently. What a brilliant question that is. Pretty much the same way I avoided riding a bicycle today, I would guess, just because I didn't choose to ride one.
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          • Author by open_mind (November 19, 2009 12:02 pm ET)
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            Huh? Obama did not avoid service. Obama was obviously too young to be drafted in Vietnam. Duh?
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            • Author by fairliberal (November 20, 2009 9:08 pm ET)
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              I said "the service" perhaps you are having some trouble with your reading.
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              • Author by open_mind (November 20, 2009 11:32 pm ET)
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                Um, perhaps you weren't keeping up with the conversation. You were replying to PrinceOfWheels post that contained:
                I am sure that they can't all go to Alabama to dodge their enlistment.
                Which was a clear reference to Bush's National Guard "service". You then replied:
                Where did your hero go to avoid the service? We know where Clinton went, how about the Obamanation.
                By mentioning the word "avoid", that could only really be a reference to the draft - further supported by your reference to Clinton - obviously a reference to the Vietnam draft.

                Considering there was no draft when Obama reached 18, it is peculiar that you would use a word like "avoid" with regards to military service as we have had an all volunteer force during Obama's entire adult life. Obama avoided the military exactly like you avoided becoming an astronaut.
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          • Author by soze169880 (November 19, 2009 12:04 pm ET)
               
            WOW. This is quite possibly the dumbest thing you've ever said. I think this may trump his chest-pounding citation of the "Paris Business Review".
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          • Author by mjh (November 19, 2009 12:06 pm ET)
               
            "Where did your hero go to avoid the service? We know where Clinton went . . . " -- FAILliberal


            Yeah -- the DRAFT BOARD.

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    • Author by toombsie (November 19, 2009 9:44 am ET)
         
      Massive "warning flags" -

      It's "warning signs" you moron, or "red flags." You can tell her mind is just this vacuum, incapable of original thought but just intelligent enough to go home every night and recite her GOP talking points in a mirror. Hannity probably provided her all the questions he'd ask beforehand and she got to practice her answers before delivering them.
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      • Author by Selah (November 19, 2009 9:56 am ET)
           
        I am so glad to see the involvement of liberals on this site. I wait to hear some authentic debates.
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    • Author by MickD (November 19, 2009 11:37 am ET)
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      I find it interesting that the usual suspect Sarah defenders have sat this one out (except to do the usual chickensh!t thumbs downing). This one a little too ignorant, boys?
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      • Author by soze169880 (November 19, 2009 12:11 pm ET)
           
        Well, failsliberally is here, and, in keeping with her, said quite possibly the dumbest thing he's ever said.
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        • Author by fairliberal (November 20, 2009 9:11 pm ET)
             
          I said that Obama avoided the service, he did. Or perhaps if I am wrong you will point out which branch of the service he served in. please correct the record.
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          • Author by Brabantio (November 20, 2009 10:13 pm ET)
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            No, you asked where did he go to avoid the service. Why would he have to go anywhere?

            You had a mental lapse. Own up to it and quit acting like a jackass.
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          • Author by clenny (November 21, 2009 7:39 pm ET)
               
            As has been mentioned before, the problem is the use of the word 'avoid', which implies something was mandatory and someone got around it somehow. Being that we've had a voluntary military since 1976, no one has to avoid the service, rather one has to opt in and join the service. Now if your argument is Obama didn't prevail himself of the opportunity to serve his country then your argument would be on firm ground. However, only a small percentae of Americans do, and an increasing number of women because not enough males opt in so what does that say about all of us?
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (November 19, 2009 12:15 pm ET)
         
      Palin is "all for" "profiling" in order to "save innocent American lives"

      Yep. That is absolutely right Sarah! If you are for profiling all Muslims in the military and perhaps in this country, then we need to profile Christians also. It seems most of the backlash against muslims have came from the you so-called evangelical CHRISTIANS! What a joke!
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    • Author by skippersmom (November 21, 2009 7:13 am ET)
         
      I hear her make these pronouncements so unequivocally and I can't help but wonder how it is she is invited or allowed to come to Fort Bragg and Fort Hood. It pretty much looks like a sentiment the armed services don't mind promoting.

      I guess if you're coercing military members to be fundamentalist Christians, this must be part of that program.
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