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Savage: If Gates and Mullen were in charge during World War II, "[Y]ou'd be speaking German"

November 20, 2009 3:22 pm ET

From the November 19 edition of Talk Radio Network's The Savage Nation:

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    • Author by rkcomments (November 20, 2009 3:27 pm ET)
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      In there ANY way we can shut these morons up. I've had it with the Hitler and Nazi talk from these right-wing jokers.
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      • Author by pete592 (November 20, 2009 3:30 pm ET)
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        Anymore it seems all their criticisms revolve around references to despotic leaders or rape.
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      • Author by k1dork (November 20, 2009 3:30 pm ET)
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        I'm sick of the Hitler and Nazi talk as well.

        I mean, we just endured 8 years of it from the left about Bush, calling him everything from Hitler to a Dark Lord of the Sith.
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        • Author by John Paradox (November 20, 2009 3:36 pm ET)
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          Actually, it was Darth Cheney....
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        • Author by snoopy (November 20, 2009 3:38 pm ET)
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          Some cheese with that whine? Y'all must be real thin skinned to even think comments from a few lone liberals during the bush years somehow equates to reichwhine news organizations, on air commentators, senators, congressmen and women, governors, and all around ignorant racists and fascists screaming every dirty name in the book 24/7 against our president as they call for his death and justify it with their religion...
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          • Author by k1dork (November 20, 2009 4:01 pm ET)
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            Right, it's completely different when the left calls someone a Nazi or Hitler.
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            • Author by christopher howard (November 20, 2009 4:55 pm ET)
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              Well the Nazis were a party of the German right, so at least it makes nominally more sense when someone on the political left uses it to describe someone on the right.

              That said, I agree it's an overblown tactic when anyone does it. Hitler was Hitler; no one else is.
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            • Author by benjr (November 20, 2009 8:21 pm ET)
                 
              Again with the false comparisons. It is totally different. If I, an anonymous internet poster, say that Bush, Cheney, whoever, is a Nazi, that is totally different than a syndicated radio host saying the same thing on air to thousands of people. Do you really not see the difference there? Do you not understand the potential difference in impact?
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            • Author by snoopy (November 20, 2009 8:47 pm ET)
                 
              Love how you reduce to the lowest common denominator - that being making the claim. How often one vs the other does it pales into insignificance when you use that particular yardstick...
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            • Author by soze169880 (November 21, 2009 10:45 am ET)
                 
              Anyone on the left who compared Bush to Hitler was immediately (and rightly) condemned by Democratic politicians. Meanwhile, when they do it on the right, psychopaths like Michele Bachmann and John Boehner are actively encouraging it, and when it gets too overt (like the blatant anti-Semitism at the anti-health care rally), they issue the non-apology that they "didn't see it". And come to think of it, why is someone who hates liberals as much as you do using their perceived actions to determine what's acceptable? That couldn't possibly make less sense.
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        • Author by Boxer1979 (November 20, 2009 3:39 pm ET)
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          I mean, we just endured 8 years of it from the left about Bush, calling him everything from Hitler to a Dark Lord of the Sith.

          You should have left this comment out and just said you are tired of Hitler and Nazi talk as well. You trying to punctuate on your point?
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        • Author by bintx (November 20, 2009 3:45 pm ET)
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          I'm not from the left, but I basically just called Bush incompetent, intellectually lazy and misguided. 'Course, I called him that when he was running for Governor of Texas, too. Based on his past and recent history . . . he was all of those things. Bet you voted for him 'cause he had that "R" in the ( ) behind his name.
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          • Author by bintx (November 20, 2009 5:15 pm ET)
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            Thanks for the thumbs down! Doesn't change the fact that Bush's entire life history was rife with incompetence and lack of ambition and direction. He had no business ever holding public office. Voting for the letter in the ( ) does a great disservice to this country. Party loyalty over loyalty to one's country is destructive. This recession is GWB's MO. Make a mess, walk away and leave it for someone else to clean up. That's what he's done his entire life. Poppy or his friends were always there to clean up after him.
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        • Author by pete592 (November 20, 2009 3:53 pm ET)
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          And you heard this from the media?
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          • Author by k1dork (November 20, 2009 4:02 pm ET)
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            Just Air America hosts, left-wing pundits, and Dems in general.
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            • Author by jediknight65 (November 20, 2009 4:20 pm ET)
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              i always felt that bush was in way over his head and allowed his darth cheney to run things. while that doesnt make bush evil. it makes him negligent at best.
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            • Author by pete592 (November 20, 2009 4:34 pm ET)
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              Got links?
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            • Author by soze169880 (November 21, 2009 10:46 am ET)
                 
              Find me an elected Democrat who compared George Bush to Hitler.
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        • Author by jediknight65 (November 20, 2009 4:18 pm ET)
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          i always refered to dick as a the dark lord of the sith....and i gotta say that richard dreyfuss pulls that off in oliver stones movie w.
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        • Author by Sharpe (November 20, 2009 5:25 pm ET)
             
          Actually the times obama is compared to hitler/stalin/communist isnt even close to the number of times Bush was demonized as such. In the one year obama has been president - he has been demonized more often than in all 8 years of Bush.
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      • Author by bilbo_dies (November 20, 2009 4:39 pm ET)
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        Nope, and as scary as it is, he is just speaking to his audience.
        That's why it is good to have MMFA around to monitor the playpen, so we don't have to listen to the drivel.
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (November 20, 2009 3:33 pm ET)
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      Savage: If Gates and Mullen were in charge during World War II, "[Y]ou'd be speaking German"

      YAWN!
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    • Author by bintx (November 20, 2009 3:43 pm ET)
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      This statement is SO yesterday.
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    • Author by DAWUSS (November 20, 2009 3:50 pm ET)
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      Funny, because there are a lot of people in the US who speak German.
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      • Author by shaggles (November 20, 2009 4:06 pm ET)
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        There were a lot who spoke German during WWII and guess they weren't even rounded up and thrown in internment camps.
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        • Author by jediknight65 (November 20, 2009 4:19 pm ET)
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          no they got rounded up.....and were put into imoprtant positions within the US army, and OSS and Naval Intelligence and just about everything you could imagine where someone who was bilingual in a language you would need.
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      • Author by tman418 (November 21, 2009 2:14 am ET)
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        #1 language of business for Americans! My own roommate is a business major, and studying German.

        Not that I really like the language though. Arabic, German, Hebrew...sounds like you're trying to spit!
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    • Author by shaggles (November 20, 2009 4:00 pm ET)
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      Will there be an outcry against this as there was over the 'General Betray us?' ad? Will there be a congressional resolution condemning Savage?
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      • Author by DAWUSS (November 20, 2009 4:01 pm ET)
           
        IOKI... No wait, Savage is no Republican. Never mind.
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      • Author by tman418 (November 21, 2009 2:16 am ET)
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        OMG Shaggles I forgot all about the hoopla with the "General Petraeus or Betray-Us" ad, and the Congressional resolution condemning Move-On.

        Wow, I'd be damned if there wasn't a Congressional resolution over this comment by Weiner.

        I ain't holding my breath though, and I was once a very accomplished swimmer.
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    • Author by The New Pilgrims (November 20, 2009 4:02 pm ET)
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      Savage: If Gates and Mullen were in charge during World War II, "[Y]ou'd be speaking German"

      On the other hand, the Hitler and Nazi references would sound much more authentic.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (November 20, 2009 4:13 pm ET)
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      I actually won tickets to a military event and I saw Admiral Mullen speak over a tasty luncheon last spring. I was impressed. I think he is a career service member who got to where he is by caring about the services. I think Mr. Gates cares about the military, too. I often find what Savage has to say as vile and disgusting. Some things never change.
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      • Author by jediknight65 (November 20, 2009 4:23 pm ET)
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        although....i have to say one thing about the spirit of what savage said...we could use a guy like Ernest King. he was a fleet admiral second only to Adm Leahey, and was supposedly so gruff and grizzled that FDR said of him " he is the kind of man who shaves with a blowtorch". he himself said "when war is declared....thats when they call for the sons of bitches"

        so i gotta say if we had a guy like him around...i wouldn't mind too much.
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        • Author by jediknight65 (November 20, 2009 4:25 pm ET)
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          oh and i forgot a comment made by HIS OWN DAUGHTER!: "he is the most even-tempered person in the United States Navy. He is always in a rage"

          for me....these are the kind of people i think our military men should be. the gruff warriors who fight hard when they must and fight harder not to fight
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          • Author by epkklk851 (November 20, 2009 4:37 pm ET)
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            I think I like Admiral King. My father is a difficult man. He could even be describe as an SOB. He was also a deeply caring man. He has left me with a warm spot in my heart for men like that. We might very well be better off if we had someone like him in charge.
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    • Author by Publius39 (November 20, 2009 4:29 pm ET)
         
      Does Weiner understand that the war on terror and traditional wars like WW II are fought using totally different tactics? I guess the chicken-hawk doesn't know that.
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