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Hannity, filmmaker wrongly claim Gore's statement that British judge's decision on An Inconvenient Truth favored him is "absolutely false"

November 20, 2009 10:25 pm ET

From the November 20 edition of Fox News' Hannity:

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Quick Fact: Hannity falsely claimed Gore was wrong to say British judge ruling on An Inconvenient Truth "favored his point of view"

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    • Author by jjamele2880 (November 20, 2009 11:11 pm ET)
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      Cue knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing "Gore is an Elitist and Besides Scientists who work for Exxon Say his film is filled with falsehoods" Global Warming deniers in 3....2....1.....
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    • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (November 21, 2009 12:00 am ET)
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      The direct quotes from the British judge's decision clearly, explicitly state that the facts are on the side of An Inconvenient Truth.

      If you're on the other side of the argument, all you can do is deny that the decision says what it says.

      Think Martin Short as the chain smoking lawyer Nathan Thurm trying to defend the tobacco companies on SNL in the mid 80s.

      Think Rupert Murdoch claiming he never said Obama made a racist comment.

      Think Lou Dobbs denying that he ever said illegal immigrants were responsible for an explosion of leprosy in the US.
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    • Author by DellDolly (November 21, 2009 1:12 am ET)
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      The final thing I heard the woman say tonight while flipping through the channels was that we can tell if Global Climate Change was real or not by noticing that people like Al Gore fly in airplanes, and since they do that, they can't really believe in GCC.

      Yeah, it was an OMIGOD moment for me too!
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    • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 21, 2009 8:03 am ET)
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      If idiots like algore, kennedy, babs striesand really believed this drivel they wouls leave their lears and gulfstreams home.

      It's all fake smoke and mirrirs. Look at the photoshop hurricanes on the cover of his new "book"... pathetic...
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      • Author by jjamele2880 (November 21, 2009 8:08 am ET)
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        If an ignorant old man rants talking points in a forest, does it make a sound?
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        • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 21, 2009 8:19 am ET)
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          right just because MM says it doesn't make it true. You are one to speak of ignorant... Yo accuse me of being ignorant by calling out the liberal elites that want to take MY choice away while they fly all over the world dumping more CO2 in one day than I produce in a year.. look at the size of there abodes. babs 10,000 sq ft. algore uses more energy (after his green conversion) in one month than an average family uses in a year.

          George Soros, warren buffet, kennedys... the list goes on and on.

          Obama has taken his 747s to over 20 countries, more than any president to date for his time in office 100s of tons of co2. For what, hope and change...

          Not talking points FACTS, those are for the kool-aid liberals...
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          • Author by jjamele2880 (November 21, 2009 8:26 am ET)
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            "Algore," "George Soros, "Warren Buffet," "Kennedys.." and you are accusing ME of "drinking the kool-aid..." Maybe I'd take you more seriously if you didn't lift words right out of Rush Limbaugh's mouth and put them in posts as if they are the product of your own limited mind.

            You are a very funny poster. I KNOW you have to be kidding and are just parodying the right-wing morons, NO ONE could be legitimately as ignorant. I also enjoy your clearly intentional misspellings. Classic. Too bad Colbert beat you to it, that could be YOU making all that money on tv.
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            • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 21, 2009 8:48 am ET)
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              Right, you really are a funny girl... You wouldn't have any idea what comes out of the mouth of Limbaugh. You only see the clips and photoshopped images MM shows you. I'd be suprised if you could find Limbaugh on the dial...

              Any response to the liberal elites flying around in their lears and gulfstreams, owning the huge mansions, oh wait another talking point I saw on 60 minutes when john edwards gave 60 minutes a tour of his mansion. A full size basket ball court... OH no, perhaps BO should have tapped John as his running mate...

              pathetic...
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              • Author by epkklk851 (November 21, 2009 10:00 am ET)
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                Carbon trade offs. And President Obama may have gone to more countries than Bush, but he hasn't spent a third of his time in office on vacation and jetting to Texas to clear brush like somebody else I can think of.
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                • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 21, 2009 4:12 pm ET)
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                  Carbon trade-off are a product of algore and 100% bogus... Why have "carbon trade-offs" just don't use the execu-jets and reduce the carbon that much more.. How stupid, carbon trade-offs.

                  What about the water-vapor" much more insidious "greenhouse gas" than co2, and that's what those white trails behind the execu-jet are... fools...
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                  • Author by epkklk851 (November 21, 2009 10:21 pm ET)
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                    From now on, I'm going to think of you as Oldfish, because all you do is carp, carp, carp. And it stinks, just like your mean and nasty attitude.
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                  • Author by The_Cat (November 22, 2009 11:35 am ET)
                       
                    You are straining at gnats and swallowing camels, oldmaninblackforest.

                    A 21 mpg (average) automobile consumes 581 gallons of gas, and produces 11,450 pounds of CO2 per year. (here)

                    A 17 mpg (average) truck consumes 813 gallons of gas, and produces 16,035 pounds of CO2 per year. (here)

                    Commercial air travel, on the other hand, produces about 11% of all U.S. CO2 emissions, so you are not dealing the the actual problem by suggesting reducing air travel.

                    For all your blather, and all your whining and complaining, I notice you never provide any actual evidence. You just make unsupported statements like carbon trade-offs are 100% bogus, as if we should just simply accept your word for it.
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                • Author by Tbone Slickens (November 22, 2009 9:26 am ET)
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                  You might want to check that vacation fact out again...

                  The most glaring is the jaunt to Martha's Vineyard...playground of the rich and famous. $50k a week there. Tax payers had to pick up the security/AF1 bill for that also. Doesn't look good in times of economic hardship for the jet setter in chief to do costly "date nights" when unemployment is topping 11%. Vacations to France and all the shopping sprees. BTW, you do understand that Bush had heads of state in Crawford, right? That was a working vacation, something you dems have no clue about.
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                  • Author by epkklk851 (November 22, 2009 3:05 pm ET)
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                    He still spent a full third of his eight years in office at various vacation sites and that was done when he was "fighting" two wars and presiding over the implosion of the economy. He also used to chopper over to Quantico just to ride his mountain bike (shut down part or all of the base) and the quick trips to Camp David. All of that was on tax payer dollars, too. The President of the United States can't just hop on the Greyhound Bus or take the Acela to the city.
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                  • Author by Laxplyr43 (November 22, 2009 4:44 pm ET)
                       
                    Your argument about the vacation to Martha's Vineyard is pointless. he paid for vacation out of pocket and the security would have been with him whereever he was. Bush had heads of state at his ranch for a full third, more than 2.5 years, of his presidency? wow how did the world leaders find time to run their own countries?
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              • Author by soze169880 (November 21, 2009 10:50 am ET)
                   
                What does John Edwards have to do with ANYTHING?
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        • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 21, 2009 8:24 am ET)
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          jjamele2880 you are SO clever, I'll wager that even you MM kool-aid drinking friends don't find you humorous.

          You know you are so smart, why don't you help save the world and stop producing co2 yourself... pathetic..



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          • Author by The_Cat (November 21, 2009 10:44 am ET)
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            Two quick things, oldmaninblackforest:

            1) I find jjamele2880 humorous, so do you still want to put money down?

            2) If I can find someone who would actually buy you a Christmas gift, I'm going to send them money for a thesaurus. You could desperately use one. There are many choices besides pathetic.
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            • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 21, 2009 4:16 pm ET)
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              I don't need a thesaurus, I like the word pathetic, it's descriptive, accurate and non nonsense...

              That the best you can do? can't anyone come up with viable reason for algore and the other elite to cruise around poluting the atmosphere in their execu-jets.. The carbon-credit BS isn't reality. algore is "compensated" in carbon-credits from his own company... pathetic...

              So jjamele2880 you have another third grader that appreciates your juvenile humor... pathetic...
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              • Author by mescal (November 22, 2009 3:24 am ET)
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                You're absolutely right, Oldfartinblackforrest. You SHOULD stick with pathetic. The word fits you to a T.

                Oh, and I also find jjamele2880 quite clever.
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              • Author by Laxplyr43 (November 22, 2009 4:46 pm ET)
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                you know whats funny? how there are only liberal elitists. when a conservative is a rich man he's an American hero
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      • Author by The_Cat (November 21, 2009 11:04 am ET)
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        The cover of his children's book? The one with cover art that was apparently produced by someone with so-so artistic skills, who happened to get the rotational direction of hurricanes wrong? That's your evidence that all the facts in the book are false?

        So, you really do judge books by their cover?! Wow. That's practically the epitome of ignorance.
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        • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 21, 2009 4:19 pm ET)
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          algore is the name on the cover, the one who has the say on the "art work".. But not only is the hurricane wrong but they photoshopped out the polar cap ice and shrunk the Florida peninsula so it looks like it's partly underwater, you know the "rising" sea level... pathetic...

          Bad art work, bad pseudo science, and just follow the money...
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          • Author by The_Cat (November 22, 2009 11:40 am ET)
               
            So, you're as ignorant of publishing as you are about everything else, aren't you. As it happens, I spent ten years in publishing, and I can tell you that it is the publisher of the book who has final say on what the cover will look like, and not the author. I noticed the ice caps and Florida peninsula as well, and put it down to artistic license.

            The money? All right. A vast majority of climatologists agree that mankind has been artificially influencing the global climate. The small minority opinion, oddly enough, all work for major oil and coal companies. So, in the interests of following the money, I'm going to ask you a very simple question: Do cigarettes cause cancer?
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      • Author by New Frontier (November 21, 2009 2:38 pm ET)
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        If idiots like algore, kennedy, babs striesand really believed this drivel they wouls leave their lears and gulfstreams home.

        Wingut-to-English: I won't listen to Gore and Streisand talking about how we need to deal with global warming until they travel on-foot, by bicycle, or on one of those perpetual-motion machines.
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        • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 21, 2009 8:42 pm ET)
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          Why would I listen to them, IF they really believed the BS they'd walk, run, ride a bike, even drive an SUV instead of the flying off in the CO2 belching execu-jets... Duh! if it's so important LEAD.... pathetic... (yes I like that word, descriptive)...
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          • Author by New Frontier (November 22, 2009 10:14 am ET)
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            Why would I listen to them, IF they really believed the BS they'd walk, run, ride a bike

            And since it's impractical to walk, run or bike around the world... well, let's just say what we have here is a convenient win-win for the wingnut.
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    • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 21, 2009 8:12 am ET)
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      As a matter of FACT, something MM clearly leaves on the way-side. One of the hurricanes is rotating the wrong way. It's a southern hemisphere rotation photoshoped off the coast of florida... what a prevaricator... Liar, money grubbing fool...
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      • Author by jjamele2880 (November 21, 2009 8:28 am ET)
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        Shouldn't you add "bitter," "irrational" and "intentionally ignorant" to your screen name? Oh, and you forgot to use the term "kool-aid" in your last post: Bad boy!

        And don't forget, it's always Algore, never Al Gore. Rush would be ashamed of you if you ever got it wrong.
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        • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 21, 2009 9:02 am ET)
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          OK and that addresses the point about all your friends like algore, flying around in their lears, gulfstreams and living in huge mansions.

          You know what I'd wager your "carbon footprint" is way bigger than mine. I actually do things that "supposedly" reduce my co2 output. BUT going off and throwing money at the likes of algore the hypocrite is counter productive, stupid... algore is dangerous. It's like your mother telling you not to smoke as she lights up... I can't believe you all so naive that you fall for it. Think of how much farther the issue of global warming or climate change would go if the likes of the money grubbing algore, prevaricator, liar and chump, would go...

          All one has to do is follow the money...

          Do yourself a favor and take a look at the photoshopped cover of his book (young readers addition) and note the hurricane off the east coast of Florida rotating in the WRONG direction...

          http://www.amazon.com/Our-Choice-Climate-Crisis-Reader/dp/0670012483/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258811959&sr=1-3

          BTW - you send me $100 I'll put your name on one of my trees (forest) and not cut it down and use it for firewood for one(1) year... See... at least I'm learning something algore the crook, liar etc... NOW THAT'S FUNNY lol
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          • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 21, 2009 9:10 am ET)
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            Actually come to think of it you probably know as much about cyclonic rotation as algore and wouldn't notice the wrong-way hurricane... Probably true of most algore readers (I say most as I'll get it from the library and read it myself).

            I wonder if algore explains why there have been so few hurricanes oh with the global warming BS he claimed there would be MORE... How many years has it been since anything of consequence hit the US... Or perhaps "climate change" is good, reduces the hurricanes??? hmmm... pathetic...

            I guess it's too difficult to address the question of the elites flying around in their lears and gulfstreams. NO I guess you have to look up a response on MM or some other "talking points" web site... haha pathetic... Oh just for you "kool-aid" drinker... We would want Rush to be ashamed of me now would we... lol...
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            • Author by soze169880 (November 21, 2009 10:30 am ET)
                 
              I understand you can barely speak coherently, but could you please explain to me why not putting a space between Al Gore's first and last name is supposed to be insulting? No wingnut has ever been able to.
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            • Author by jjamele2880 (November 21, 2009 11:24 am ET)
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              I suppose that somewhere in that stream of unconsciousness there is a point, but I don't have a shovel strong enough to risk digging for it, sorry.

              Maybe you shouldn't listen to Rush while drunk- the talking points get jumbled in your alleged mind, and come out in random fragments.

              And maybe you could save the "LOLs" (you are laughing out loud at your own wittiness? Really?) for the teenage grandchildren who don't visit their crazy grampa in the woods anymore.
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              • Author by soze169880 (November 21, 2009 11:31 am ET)
                   
                I thought this was really funny. Oldman, you owe jjamele2880 money. And not the pieces of paper with your name written on them that you usually try to use as money, either.
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              • Author by mary59 (November 21, 2009 12:39 pm ET)
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                Al Gore is such a convenient right wing bogeyman, along with Barbra Steisand, that they'll never give up their invented tripe about them. One thing I'd agree with them on, is that people should really re-think how often they travel in vehicles that require lots of fossil fuel.

                It would be really hard for a president to stop traveling so much, but for the rest of us, video conferencing and consolidation of meetings and efforts would help... I'd love to see the U.S. invest in high speed rail. For air travel, we need a major breakthru.
                Oh, and I heard a neat segment on NPR Science Friday yesterday.
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                • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 21, 2009 8:20 pm ET)
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                  What invented tripe, BS lives on a 10,000 sq ft mansion with three pools and tells me I should "hang my laundry out". RIGHT. algore live in a memphis mansion that consumes more energy (after the green treatment) in a month than most families use in a year, call it tripe After you look it up... Oh yeah what about john the $400.00 haircut edwards? liberal trial lawyer, huge house with a full size indoor basketball court... tripe that was on 60 minutes certainly not a conservative mecca... tripe... pathetic... not to mention his sordid affair, cheating on his dying wife while running for VP... I hear a lot less about him and his hypocrisy then I here about Sarah Palin.. At least she'd honest...
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              • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 21, 2009 4:22 pm ET)
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                Oh so clever, yet again we have a lot to say about nothing... What can't excuse the algore BS??? Haven't found your talking points on MM or the algore web site yet???

                pathetic...
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                • Author by mary59 (November 21, 2009 6:22 pm ET)
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                  yet again we have a lot to say about nothing

                  You can say that again, old-guy-rotting-in-forest...
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                  • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 21, 2009 8:24 pm ET)
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                    Ever seen a forest, bet not!!! Probably wouldn't know one if you did... I'm glad to have the opportunity to "rot" in the forest, something you'll only dream about. Pathetic... A lot to say about nothing and YOU supplied the proof... haha lol!
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                    • Author by mescal (November 22, 2009 3:32 am ET)
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                      Hey oldfartbitterlystewinginblackforest. Are you under the impression that there aren't any forests outside of Colorado?
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                      • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 23, 2009 8:34 am ET)
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                        I love all the creative names... very entertaining, about the only thing worth looking at this site for...

                        What different does it make if there are forest outside Colorado... that point is....

                        Ever seen a forest, bet not!!! Probably wouldn't know one if you did... I'm glad to have the opportunity to "rot" in the forest, something you'll only dream about. Pathetic. pathetic fool.
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                        • Author by mescal (November 23, 2009 7:34 pm ET)
                             
                          Yes, I've seen forests before, you insufferable twit. Ever hear of the Sierra Nevada Mountains? Probably not, being the angry, paranoid provincial that you are. I've spent my share of time back-packing in Yosemite and Sequoia national forests, as well as camping in the Angeles National Forest that sits less than 5 miles from my home in Sylmar.

                          It's kind of sad, really, to see you so defiantly trumpeting Black Forest... like a cringing miser running his trembling fingers through a pile of nickles, muttering rapturously "mine... all mine", oblivious to the wary stares that he's attracting.

                          It's not you that's rotting in Black Forest, bitter old fart... just your mind.
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          • Author by Paine-76 (November 21, 2009 9:27 am ET)
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            I don't understand your point.

            Are you an environmentalist who accepts the majority scientific belief of global warming as a man-made influence, and just angry at the perceived hypocrisy of the wealthy who agree with you, yet contribute to the problem more than you, due to their disproportionate energy use?

            Or do you disagree with the "global warming" premise altogether, and criticize those who do (agree with it) for being opportunists, or otherwise negatively motivated?

            I am not going to sink to insult or sarcasm. I am seriously interested in your position. Please advise.
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          • Author by New Frontier (November 21, 2009 2:47 pm ET)
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            and note the hurricane off the east coast of Florida rotating in the WRONG direction...

            Al Gore is a pathetic! liar, and there's no global warming, and this innocent, innocuous, inconsequential error by an illustrator on the book cover of a children's book I'm not inquisitive enough to actually want to read even tho it's short words and big print proves it.
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            • Author by dirtylittlereligion (November 21, 2009 3:04 pm ET)
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              Yep, I just don't get wingnuts. Some bitter old man just spent a few posts ranting about a "wrong way hurricane". Do they really think Gore made the book cover? And then they believe since there's a illustration error that the ENTIRE book is false? Amazing.
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            • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 21, 2009 7:31 pm ET)
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              It's not as simple as an illustration error, it plain manipulation. wrong rotation, the polar ice cap is shown with 1/2 the ice removed. the Florida peninsula is made to look like it's half under the "rising sea".. Not a simple illustration error, simple propaganda... and pathetic...

              You know, in my way of thinking, why would an illustrator have to photoshop a view of the Earth, seems kinda nice looking without the added BS...
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              • Author by New Frontier (November 22, 2009 9:59 am ET)
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                It's not as simple as an illustration error

                Oh, no no. It's part of a complex, clever, master evil plan, Phase One of which included school children singing about Obama.

                Since you brought up topography, the phrase, "making a mountain out of a molehill" comes to mind.
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                • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 23, 2009 8:37 am ET)
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                  Actually making a mountain out of a molehill is "Hannity, filmmaker wrongly claim Gore's statement that British judge's decision on An Inconvenient Truth favored him is "absolutely false"".

                  Pointing out intentional propaganda designed to illustrate the reality of fake global climate change is pathetic...

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                  • Author by New Frontier (November 23, 2009 10:50 am ET)
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                    Actually, I think your evidence that an illustration on a book which you probably won't bother to read proves something is really quite paper-thin.
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      • Author by soze169880 (November 21, 2009 8:35 am ET)
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        It's a southern hemisphere rotation photoshoped off the coast of florida..

        OH MY GOD! ARREST AL GORE AT ONCE!!
        Seriously, though, you're great. I think I'm gonna tattoo "what a prevaricator" on my bicep.
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      • Author by FOX LIES (November 21, 2009 9:07 am ET)
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        You must have failed debating class, Mr. Black forest. Tell me, if Al Gord was preaching against the dangers of smoking, yet he himself smoked, would that make his message incorrect? Does that mean smoking is actually good for your health? Of course not. It would make him a hypoctrite, but correct on the facts. Same thing with Global Climate Change. His flying around in jets maybe a tad hypocritical, but that does not mean his facts are wrong and you should automatically dismiss the message. It's the message that's important, not the individual. That's something you red-necks have a big problem with understanding.
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    • Author by Handyman (November 21, 2009 10:37 am ET)
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      Regardless of whether you are pro or con on this issue one must realize why these arguments are even taking place in our country.

      The past administration was con on this issue to the point they prevented the release of scientific panel information addressing climate change, which was paid for by tax payer dollars, because of the threat they may pose to industry in the form of regulations. This only served to inforce the con debate because many people thought our own government didn't even believe in the concept.

      The overwhelming concensus by the majority in the scientific community world wide is pro on this issue. The jury is still out as to the degree mankind has played, but there is no way of denying our planet is suffering from the impact of climate change.

      The fact that our government refused to engage in open discussion of this issue has caused our public to be less informed than many other countries of the world. So here we are trying to have this debate on the internet.

      There is a documentary tonight on TV 11-21-09 that is going to discuss the impacts climate change are having on different species and the loss of habitat. I would highly recommend everyone watch it. (This is not an Al Gore Show)

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      • Author by Handyman (November 21, 2009 11:12 am ET)
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        Correction - The documentary is Sunday the 22nd on NBC. All you guys and gals that are FOX News fans - please bite on the bullet and watch this so we can have an honest debate!!
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        • Author by ifthethunderdontgetya™ł˛ŽŠ (November 21, 2009 12:55 pm ET)
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          IF they wanted an honest debate
          THEN they would not be FAUX Nooze fans.

          That is the problem.
          ~
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        • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 21, 2009 8:13 pm ET)
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          You know, at least you are honestly funny AND the bonus, not obnoxious...
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      • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 21, 2009 4:31 pm ET)
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        That's just it. I'm certainly not closed minded to climate change, I do what I think will help reduce not only CO2 but other "greenhouse gasses".

        I certainly believe that the climate is changing, always changing, I'm not convinced that it's significantly impacted by humans, but open to the ideas.

        But it kills me when idiots like algore and the other elites spout off about what will bring them more money.

        If algore really cared about the climate change as much as he claims he'd be looking at nuclear power, they ONLY PROVEN viable alternative. At the same time I would continue to look for other viable fuels, perhaps hydrogen But trying to push off stupid sh*t like plug-in electric vehicles that have no "tail pipe" pollutants ... well they are right no tail-pipe pollution just stoke some more coal into that electric power plant to produce the electricity... pathetic...
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        • Author by mary59 (November 21, 2009 6:29 pm ET)
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          I think you are really sort of jealous of Al Gore. Otherwise, why fixiate upon him so much? He's really irrelevant to a discussion about global climate change. If you're really open to the idea of human activity impacting climate, you'd do some serious reading from actual climate scientists.

          Really, there are some interesting ideas upon the horizon that will make nuclear unnecessary. Nuclear power is just not cost effective either, plus, it's extremely toxic. We have not developed any way to safely dispose of reactive material, even if everyone was competently extracting and recycling the nuclear material. Plus don't ignore the energy and pollution from mining the uranium, which is, by the way, NOT a renewable resource.
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          • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 21, 2009 6:54 pm ET)
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            I don't know that I would agree to being jealous of algore, but more amazed at how so many bow down and throw money at his pseudo science... It's not just algore but all the elite that preach about what I should or shouldn't do as the jet off in their G5... I don't even care if they have an execu-jet, but why preach to me? Why try and control what I do. This is where PRO-CHOICE should be applied...

            I go out of my way to be kind to the environment, to leave it for future generations. I drive a clean diesel, use bio-diesel if possible, compost everything compostable, I'm considering a private windmill for electricity, I use windmills instead of electricity for livestock (horses) water, we grow some of our own food (hard at elevation in Colorado), limit our trips to town to every two weeks.. and algore or ted kennedy (when he was with us) or his son patrick or barbara streisand or HUNDREDS of elite hypocrites can't get on a commercial airliner and save TONS of CO2... I just get plain tired of the do as I say, not as I do hypocritical elitism... At least Rush Limbaugh makes no bones about it, he flies around in his g5 and doesn't try and tell me to hang my wash out to dry (which we do in the summer).

            Then on top of all that some evidence surfces that proves (initially) that the global climate change mongers have suppressed data, faked data and attacked the skeptics.

            As far as alternatives, I do a fair amount of research and haven't seen anything that will help in the near term. I like the idea of having a private windmill but just think how miserable and loud it would be if all my neighbors did too. Solar just isn't efficient. Hydrogen is promising but not viable in the near term. France, the darling of the liberal community, provides 80% of it's needs with nuclear. Three nuclear power plants provide almost all of the power for Charlotte NC. Here in Colorado there is a huge windfarm just north of the Oklahoma boarder, hundreds of windmills as far as you can see. The highway runs right between some of the towers. They are HUGE, VERY LOUD and pretty obnoxious. I use to wonder why teddy kennedy didn't want them in his backyard, now I understand.

            Anything that we do will cause some kind of pollution and unintended consequences.
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        • Author by Handyman (November 21, 2009 6:54 pm ET)
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          oldman - I am glad to see you jump in with both feet. We progressives as a group welcome discussion, because that is the only way everyone has a chance to get other peoples input.

          My view on the subject is based on the concern of shifting weather patterns and what impact that would have on us as a people to produce the food we need to live on. Most all of our crop lands that produce the bulk of the food for our country and to a large extend the world, are located in the Midwest. The abundance of high quality topsoil and plentiful rainfall allow farmers to produce more per acre than anywhere in the world. If the weather patterns changed for whatever reason, and shifted the rainfall 500 miles north or south we would be in deep trouble. The soil in those areas are not the quality it is in the midwest so our production would drop dramatically. To continue growing in the Midwest would mean very significant costs in providing water for the crops to grow. We would either have to try to collect water from other regions of the nation and transport it via pipelines, canals, or similar means to the crop ares - or we would have to begin taking more water out of the Ogalala Aquifer by putting in hundreds of thousands of Wells. Either way the expense would make the Stimulus money now being spent look like a drop in the bucket.

          Climate Change is a very important issue and most people in the world recognize this. What Al Gore and other activists are doing is to try and bring the awareness to a level we will finally spend the money necessary to accurately determine what really is going on. The tendency is to put the problem off because of the cost of research and the impacts it may have on industry, but it needs to be done - there is just too much at stake to let it lay.

          What are your thoughts?
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          • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 21, 2009 7:04 pm ET)
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            I agree with most everything you say. The only real problem I have is the "activists" like algore remind me of the movie they forced us to watch when I was in high school "Killer Weed". It was so out of touch with reality it encouraged the very behavior that was frowned on (smoking weed and going to other hard drugs). After all if they tell us this hocum about weed they're probably lying about heroin... Same thing the vocal extremists that want to force change use pseudo science and pseudo facts so often that it distracts from the real facts. I don't claim to have any real facts but trying to sift through the drivel gets old... Especially since the divelers are such hypocrites...

            You are one of the few that seems to be able to think and convey your thoughts without hyperbole and name calling... (I'm not complaining about the name calling mind you, I find it rather entertaining)... Thanks
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            • Author by jjamele2880 (November 21, 2009 9:46 pm ET)
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              His name is Al Gore. If you want to be taken seriously here, the first step is to conduct yourself like an adult. Leave the "Algore" garbage to Limbaugh, who doesn't care about having conversations with anybody who doesn't lick his shoes verbally.
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              • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 23, 2009 9:02 am ET)
                   
                I don't care if you or anyone here takes me seriously. Clearly if you take algore seriously, I'm flattered that you have negative feelings regarding me...

                This suggest that you lick limbaughs shoes, he'd most certainly entertain a conversation with you. I've heard even more incoherent left-wing nuts on his show then you???

                Aren't you the one that has yet to make any response to the question of WHY the liberal elites, like algore, fly around in their execu-jet, have huge energy sucking mansions, full size indoor basketball courts attached to their mansions... If they cared they buy "carbon credits" AND stop dumping CO2 int the atmosphere...

                Perhaps this requires pre-school terms for you to understand... If their is trash on the side of the road and you don't like it the first thing you would (unless your like algore) is stop throwing trash on the side of the road, instead of harping on others about throwing trash on the side of the road. Then if you REAL cared about the trash on the side of the road you'd pick it up... Duh (unless your like algore) pathetic...!

                See you don't even get the point...

                While the elite fools (includes politicians) go off and pass cr@p and trade, cash for clunkers and all this other drivel the climate is going to continue to change and if there is any element of human contribution we're going to let it slip on by as algore makes his fortune...

                I bet you, the mature, adult doesn't know what "greenhouse gas" is found in the highest concentration in our atmosphere. What does algore propose we do about that? he doesn't even have a clue. He's so stupid he lets an illustrator put a hurricane rotating the wrong way, on the cover of his book. He's so stupid he thinks the interior of the earth is "millions of degrees".

                Again I propose to you that you stop contributing CO2 to the atmosphere... It's the least you can do... pathetic...
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    • Author by Paine-76 (November 22, 2009 9:15 am ET)
         
      To get back to the main issue of the accuracy of Hannity's FOX "News(?)" clip, FOX once again shows it deviancy from ALL OTHER LEGITIMATE news agencies by, a) mixing news with editorialism, b) distorting facts, c) selecting biased, one-sided "guest experts" and, d) intentionally misrepresentating the facts, for what is obviously an intent to control the opinion of their viewers (not inform them), contrary to normal journalistic standards.

      HANITY: He's [Gore] claiming that this court decision, actually, you know, favored his point of view, that is absolutely false.

      MALE GUEST: That is false.


      Both Hannity and his guest are wrong. The nine errors the judge found include mainly exaggerations, and conclusions of Gore's which cannot be PROVEN to be the consequence of current scientific evidence. In other words, Gore COULD eventually be proven to be right on some of these points. Contrary to Hannity and his guest, the judge,

      ...agreed that Mr Gore’s film was “broadly accurate” in its presentation of the causes and likely effects of climate change but said that some of the claims were wrong and had arisen in “the context of alarmism and exaggeration”.

      "Despite finding nine significant errors the judge said many of the claims made by the film were fully backed up by the weight of science. He identified “four main scientific hypotheses, each of which is very well supported by research published in respected, peer-reviewed journals and accords with the latest conclusions of the IPCC”.

      In particular, he agreed with the main thrust of Mr Gore’s arguments: “That climate change is mainly attributable to man-made emissions of carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide (‘greenhouse gases’).”

      The other three main points accepted by the judge were that global temperatures are rising and are likely to continue to rise, that climate change will cause serious damage if left unchecked, and that it is entirely possible for governments and individuals to reduce its impacts.

      Also, "Mr Justice Burton said the government could still send the film to schools - if accompanied by guidance giving the other side of the argument."


      The above are taken from "BBC News Online" and "London Times Online" news articles dated October 11, 2007 (italics and bold by me). You can check for yourself at:

      http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article2633838.ece

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/7037671.stm

      In other words, the suit was brought by the equivalent of a creationist, objecting to teaching natural selection in the schools. Having decided that evolution theory was indeed consistent with the vast body of accepted scientific evidence, and appropriate as the primary theory for instruction in schools regarding the subject, the Judge threw the thecreationists "a bone" to get him off everybody's back!

      "Inconvenient Truth" WILL be distributed officially throughout the UK, with guidelines for teachers to use when needed (which will be seldom), to moderate POSSIBLY misleading statements. Gore is not a scientist, he is a spokesman. I find it much easier to forgive Gore for occasional excesses resulting from enthusiasm and idealism for a cause he believes in, than I can for the cold, self-serving lies of corporations, whose only motivation is short-term profit, and who are devoid of any regard for the consequences.

      Interesting that Hannity latches onto a two-year old issue, over which to try to make political hay. In a minute and 15 seconds, FOX and Hannity, with their intentional distortion of the judge's ruling, score MUCH higher on the "disingenuous-egregious-politically-motivated-violations-of-truth" meter, than do any minor errors of Gore in his movie, or indeed, over his total career of involvement in speaking out on global warming.
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