Hannity, filmmaker wrongly claim Gore's statement that British judge's decision on An Inconvenient Truth favored him is "absolutely false"
November 20, 2009 10:25 pm ET
From the November 20 edition of Fox News' Hannity:
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If you're on the other side of the argument, all you can do is deny that the decision says what it says.
Think Martin Short as the chain smoking lawyer Nathan Thurm trying to defend the tobacco companies on SNL in the mid 80s.
Think Rupert Murdoch claiming he never said Obama made a racist comment.
Think Lou Dobbs denying that he ever said illegal immigrants were responsible for an explosion of leprosy in the US.
Yeah, it was an OMIGOD moment for me too!
It's all fake smoke and mirrirs. Look at the photoshop hurricanes on the cover of his new "book"... pathetic...
George Soros, warren buffet, kennedys... the list goes on and on.
Obama has taken his 747s to over 20 countries, more than any president to date for his time in office 100s of tons of co2. For what, hope and change...
Not talking points FACTS, those are for the kool-aid liberals...
You are a very funny poster. I KNOW you have to be kidding and are just parodying the right-wing morons, NO ONE could be legitimately as ignorant. I also enjoy your clearly intentional misspellings. Classic. Too bad Colbert beat you to it, that could be YOU making all that money on tv.
Any response to the liberal elites flying around in their lears and gulfstreams, owning the huge mansions, oh wait another talking point I saw on 60 minutes when john edwards gave 60 minutes a tour of his mansion. A full size basket ball court... OH no, perhaps BO should have tapped John as his running mate...
pathetic...
What about the water-vapor" much more insidious "greenhouse gas" than co2, and that's what those white trails behind the execu-jet are... fools...
A 21 mpg (average) automobile consumes 581 gallons of gas, and produces 11,450 pounds of CO2 per year. (here)
A 17 mpg (average) truck consumes 813 gallons of gas, and produces 16,035 pounds of CO2 per year. (here)
Commercial air travel, on the other hand, produces about 11% of all U.S. CO2 emissions, so you are not dealing the the actual problem by suggesting reducing air travel.
For all your blather, and all your whining and complaining, I notice you never provide any actual evidence. You just make unsupported statements like carbon trade-offs are 100% bogus, as if we should just simply accept your word for it.
The most glaring is the jaunt to Martha's Vineyard...playground of the rich and famous. $50k a week there. Tax payers had to pick up the security/AF1 bill for that also. Doesn't look good in times of economic hardship for the jet setter in chief to do costly "date nights" when unemployment is topping 11%. Vacations to France and all the shopping sprees. BTW, you do understand that Bush had heads of state in Crawford, right? That was a working vacation, something you dems have no clue about.
You know you are so smart, why don't you help save the world and stop producing co2 yourself... pathetic..
1) I find jjamele2880 humorous, so do you still want to put money down?
2) If I can find someone who would actually buy you a Christmas gift, I'm going to send them money for a thesaurus. You could desperately use one. There are many choices besides pathetic.
That the best you can do? can't anyone come up with viable reason for algore and the other elite to cruise around poluting the atmosphere in their execu-jets.. The carbon-credit BS isn't reality. algore is "compensated" in carbon-credits from his own company... pathetic...
So jjamele2880 you have another third grader that appreciates your juvenile humor... pathetic...
Oh, and I also find jjamele2880 quite clever.
So, you really do judge books by their cover?! Wow. That's practically the epitome of ignorance.
Bad art work, bad pseudo science, and just follow the money...
The money? All right. A vast majority of climatologists agree that mankind has been artificially influencing the global climate. The small minority opinion, oddly enough, all work for major oil and coal companies. So, in the interests of following the money, I'm going to ask you a very simple question: Do cigarettes cause cancer?
Wingut-to-English: I won't listen to Gore and Streisand talking about how we need to deal with global warming until they travel on-foot, by bicycle, or on one of those perpetual-motion machines.
And since it's impractical to walk, run or bike around the world... well, let's just say what we have here is a convenient win-win for the wingnut.
And don't forget, it's always Algore, never Al Gore. Rush would be ashamed of you if you ever got it wrong.
You know what I'd wager your "carbon footprint" is way bigger than mine. I actually do things that "supposedly" reduce my co2 output. BUT going off and throwing money at the likes of algore the hypocrite is counter productive, stupid... algore is dangerous. It's like your mother telling you not to smoke as she lights up... I can't believe you all so naive that you fall for it. Think of how much farther the issue of global warming or climate change would go if the likes of the money grubbing algore, prevaricator, liar and chump, would go...
All one has to do is follow the money...
Do yourself a favor and take a look at the photoshopped cover of his book (young readers addition) and note the hurricane off the east coast of Florida rotating in the WRONG direction...
http://www.amazon.com/Our-Choice-Climate-Crisis-Reader/dp/0670012483/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258811959&sr=1-3
BTW - you send me $100 I'll put your name on one of my trees (forest) and not cut it down and use it for firewood for one(1) year... See... at least I'm learning something algore the crook, liar etc... NOW THAT'S FUNNY lol
I wonder if algore explains why there have been so few hurricanes oh with the global warming BS he claimed there would be MORE... How many years has it been since anything of consequence hit the US... Or perhaps "climate change" is good, reduces the hurricanes??? hmmm... pathetic...
I guess it's too difficult to address the question of the elites flying around in their lears and gulfstreams. NO I guess you have to look up a response on MM or some other "talking points" web site... haha pathetic... Oh just for you "kool-aid" drinker... We would want Rush to be ashamed of me now would we... lol...
Maybe you shouldn't listen to Rush while drunk- the talking points get jumbled in your alleged mind, and come out in random fragments.
And maybe you could save the "LOLs" (you are laughing out loud at your own wittiness? Really?) for the teenage grandchildren who don't visit their crazy grampa in the woods anymore.
It would be really hard for a president to stop traveling so much, but for the rest of us, video conferencing and consolidation of meetings and efforts would help... I'd love to see the U.S. invest in high speed rail. For air travel, we need a major breakthru.
Oh, and I heard a neat segment on NPR Science Friday yesterday.
pathetic...
You can say that again, old-guy-rotting-in-forest...
What different does it make if there are forest outside Colorado... that point is....
Ever seen a forest, bet not!!! Probably wouldn't know one if you did... I'm glad to have the opportunity to "rot" in the forest, something you'll only dream about. Pathetic. pathetic fool.
It's kind of sad, really, to see you so defiantly trumpeting Black Forest... like a cringing miser running his trembling fingers through a pile of nickles, muttering rapturously "mine... all mine", oblivious to the wary stares that he's attracting.
It's not you that's rotting in Black Forest, bitter old fart... just your mind.
Are you an environmentalist who accepts the majority scientific belief of global warming as a man-made influence, and just angry at the perceived hypocrisy of the wealthy who agree with you, yet contribute to the problem more than you, due to their disproportionate energy use?
Or do you disagree with the "global warming" premise altogether, and criticize those who do (agree with it) for being opportunists, or otherwise negatively motivated?
I am not going to sink to insult or sarcasm. I am seriously interested in your position. Please advise.
Al Gore is a pathetic! liar, and there's no global warming, and this innocent, innocuous, inconsequential error by an illustrator on the book cover of a children's book I'm not inquisitive enough to actually want to read even tho it's short words and big print proves it.
You know, in my way of thinking, why would an illustrator have to photoshop a view of the Earth, seems kinda nice looking without the added BS...
Oh, no no. It's part of a complex, clever, master evil plan, Phase One of which included school children singing about Obama.
Since you brought up topography, the phrase, "making a mountain out of a molehill" comes to mind.
Pointing out intentional propaganda designed to illustrate the reality of fake global climate change is pathetic...
OH MY GOD! ARREST AL GORE AT ONCE!!
Seriously, though, you're great. I think I'm gonna tattoo "what a prevaricator" on my bicep.
The past administration was con on this issue to the point they prevented the release of scientific panel information addressing climate change, which was paid for by tax payer dollars, because of the threat they may pose to industry in the form of regulations. This only served to inforce the con debate because many people thought our own government didn't even believe in the concept.
The overwhelming concensus by the majority in the scientific community world wide is pro on this issue. The jury is still out as to the degree mankind has played, but there is no way of denying our planet is suffering from the impact of climate change.
The fact that our government refused to engage in open discussion of this issue has caused our public to be less informed than many other countries of the world. So here we are trying to have this debate on the internet.
There is a documentary tonight on TV 11-21-09 that is going to discuss the impacts climate change are having on different species and the loss of habitat. I would highly recommend everyone watch it. (This is not an Al Gore Show)
THEN they would not be FAUX Nooze fans.
That is the problem.
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I certainly believe that the climate is changing, always changing, I'm not convinced that it's significantly impacted by humans, but open to the ideas.
But it kills me when idiots like algore and the other elites spout off about what will bring them more money.
If algore really cared about the climate change as much as he claims he'd be looking at nuclear power, they ONLY PROVEN viable alternative. At the same time I would continue to look for other viable fuels, perhaps hydrogen But trying to push off stupid sh*t like plug-in electric vehicles that have no "tail pipe" pollutants ... well they are right no tail-pipe pollution just stoke some more coal into that electric power plant to produce the electricity... pathetic...
Really, there are some interesting ideas upon the horizon that will make nuclear unnecessary. Nuclear power is just not cost effective either, plus, it's extremely toxic. We have not developed any way to safely dispose of reactive material, even if everyone was competently extracting and recycling the nuclear material. Plus don't ignore the energy and pollution from mining the uranium, which is, by the way, NOT a renewable resource.
I go out of my way to be kind to the environment, to leave it for future generations. I drive a clean diesel, use bio-diesel if possible, compost everything compostable, I'm considering a private windmill for electricity, I use windmills instead of electricity for livestock (horses) water, we grow some of our own food (hard at elevation in Colorado), limit our trips to town to every two weeks.. and algore or ted kennedy (when he was with us) or his son patrick or barbara streisand or HUNDREDS of elite hypocrites can't get on a commercial airliner and save TONS of CO2... I just get plain tired of the do as I say, not as I do hypocritical elitism... At least Rush Limbaugh makes no bones about it, he flies around in his g5 and doesn't try and tell me to hang my wash out to dry (which we do in the summer).
Then on top of all that some evidence surfces that proves (initially) that the global climate change mongers have suppressed data, faked data and attacked the skeptics.
As far as alternatives, I do a fair amount of research and haven't seen anything that will help in the near term. I like the idea of having a private windmill but just think how miserable and loud it would be if all my neighbors did too. Solar just isn't efficient. Hydrogen is promising but not viable in the near term. France, the darling of the liberal community, provides 80% of it's needs with nuclear. Three nuclear power plants provide almost all of the power for Charlotte NC. Here in Colorado there is a huge windfarm just north of the Oklahoma boarder, hundreds of windmills as far as you can see. The highway runs right between some of the towers. They are HUGE, VERY LOUD and pretty obnoxious. I use to wonder why teddy kennedy didn't want them in his backyard, now I understand.
Anything that we do will cause some kind of pollution and unintended consequences.
My view on the subject is based on the concern of shifting weather patterns and what impact that would have on us as a people to produce the food we need to live on. Most all of our crop lands that produce the bulk of the food for our country and to a large extend the world, are located in the Midwest. The abundance of high quality topsoil and plentiful rainfall allow farmers to produce more per acre than anywhere in the world. If the weather patterns changed for whatever reason, and shifted the rainfall 500 miles north or south we would be in deep trouble. The soil in those areas are not the quality it is in the midwest so our production would drop dramatically. To continue growing in the Midwest would mean very significant costs in providing water for the crops to grow. We would either have to try to collect water from other regions of the nation and transport it via pipelines, canals, or similar means to the crop ares - or we would have to begin taking more water out of the Ogalala Aquifer by putting in hundreds of thousands of Wells. Either way the expense would make the Stimulus money now being spent look like a drop in the bucket.
Climate Change is a very important issue and most people in the world recognize this. What Al Gore and other activists are doing is to try and bring the awareness to a level we will finally spend the money necessary to accurately determine what really is going on. The tendency is to put the problem off because of the cost of research and the impacts it may have on industry, but it needs to be done - there is just too much at stake to let it lay.
What are your thoughts?
You are one of the few that seems to be able to think and convey your thoughts without hyperbole and name calling... (I'm not complaining about the name calling mind you, I find it rather entertaining)... Thanks
This suggest that you lick limbaughs shoes, he'd most certainly entertain a conversation with you. I've heard even more incoherent left-wing nuts on his show then you???
Aren't you the one that has yet to make any response to the question of WHY the liberal elites, like algore, fly around in their execu-jet, have huge energy sucking mansions, full size indoor basketball courts attached to their mansions... If they cared they buy "carbon credits" AND stop dumping CO2 int the atmosphere...
Perhaps this requires pre-school terms for you to understand... If their is trash on the side of the road and you don't like it the first thing you would (unless your like algore) is stop throwing trash on the side of the road, instead of harping on others about throwing trash on the side of the road. Then if you REAL cared about the trash on the side of the road you'd pick it up... Duh (unless your like algore) pathetic...!
See you don't even get the point...
While the elite fools (includes politicians) go off and pass cr@p and trade, cash for clunkers and all this other drivel the climate is going to continue to change and if there is any element of human contribution we're going to let it slip on by as algore makes his fortune...
I bet you, the mature, adult doesn't know what "greenhouse gas" is found in the highest concentration in our atmosphere. What does algore propose we do about that? he doesn't even have a clue. He's so stupid he lets an illustrator put a hurricane rotating the wrong way, on the cover of his book. He's so stupid he thinks the interior of the earth is "millions of degrees".
Again I propose to you that you stop contributing CO2 to the atmosphere... It's the least you can do... pathetic...
HANITY: He's [Gore] claiming that this court decision, actually, you know, favored his point of view, that is absolutely false.
MALE GUEST: That is false.
Both Hannity and his guest are wrong. The nine errors the judge found include mainly exaggerations, and conclusions of Gore's which cannot be PROVEN to be the consequence of current scientific evidence. In other words, Gore COULD eventually be proven to be right on some of these points. Contrary to Hannity and his guest, the judge,
...agreed that Mr Goreâs film was âbroadly accurateâ in its presentation of the causes and likely effects of climate change but said that some of the claims were wrong and had arisen in âthe context of alarmism and exaggerationâ.
"Despite finding nine significant errors the judge said many of the claims made by the film were fully backed up by the weight of science. He identified âfour main scientific hypotheses, each of which is very well supported by research published in respected, peer-reviewed journals and accords with the latest conclusions of the IPCCâ.
In particular, he agreed with the main thrust of Mr Goreâs arguments: âThat climate change is mainly attributable to man-made emissions of carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide (âgreenhouse gasesâ).â
The other three main points accepted by the judge were that global temperatures are rising and are likely to continue to rise, that climate change will cause serious damage if left unchecked, and that it is entirely possible for governments and individuals to reduce its impacts.
Also, "Mr Justice Burton said the government could still send the film to schools - if accompanied by guidance giving the other side of the argument."
The above are taken from "BBC News Online" and "London Times Online" news articles dated October 11, 2007 (italics and bold by me). You can check for yourself at:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article2633838.ece
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/7037671.stm
In other words, the suit was brought by the equivalent of a creationist, objecting to teaching natural selection in the schools. Having decided that evolution theory was indeed consistent with the vast body of accepted scientific evidence, and appropriate as the primary theory for instruction in schools regarding the subject, the Judge threw the thecreationists "a bone" to get him off everybody's back!
"Inconvenient Truth" WILL be distributed officially throughout the UK, with guidelines for teachers to use when needed (which will be seldom), to moderate POSSIBLY misleading statements. Gore is not a scientist, he is a spokesman. I find it much easier to forgive Gore for occasional excesses resulting from enthusiasm and idealism for a cause he believes in, than I can for the cold, self-serving lies of corporations, whose only motivation is short-term profit, and who are devoid of any regard for the consequences.
Interesting that Hannity latches onto a two-year old issue, over which to try to make political hay. In a minute and 15 seconds, FOX and Hannity, with their intentional distortion of the judge's ruling, score MUCH higher on the "disingenuous-egregious-politically-motivated-violations-of-truth" meter, than do any minor errors of Gore in his movie, or indeed, over his total career of involvement in speaking out on global warming.