Beck: "I no longer support the military actions that we're in -- the way we're doing them. ... [W]e are creating another Vietnam"
November 25, 2009 10:25 am ET
From the November 25 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:
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Tell me where Obama is differing from the previous administration in the following areas:
35,000 more troops to Afghanistan to be announced in a few days.
Bailouts for Wall Street (trickle down economics)
A health care reform bill that progressives will have to hold their nose to support by the time it gets out of committee. Who knows if it will even pass?
Tax increases for the wealthy (hasn't happened)
Repeal of the Bush tax cuts (nope)
Don't Ask Don't Tell (Don't even go there)
Dismal job creation numbers and good news is not on the horizon.
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Good grief with all the high fiving around here that you got Democrats in office do you look at how they actually govern? It's more of the same.
Bush said no to more troops just last year.
Bailouts pretty much had to conitnue once they were started. You would not want to know what it might be like had all these instituions gone under.
Health reform will go through.
Tax increases for the wealthy and the repealing of the Bush tax cuts are one in the same the and Obama always said he would just let them expire at the end of 2010.
Don't as don't tell. At least he did not just do it all on his won to appease his base. He is gettign military input, and anwya, I think he needs congress to do it.
Dismal job creation. Jobs losses are always the last to appear when a recession starts and the last to improve when a recession recovers. Anyway, I though the right says government cannot create jobs. (Michael Steele).
On the money....
More troops to Afghanistan is the Progressive position? No it's not.
Health Care reform with a watered down or lack of a Public Option? Not progressive.
You should set the bar higher for your candidates.
If a Republican were doing the exact same things you would be all over him about it.
I am a progressive and I will let you know the real truth.
- Wall Street bank bailouts had to happen, because of a little bill that was passed in 1999 that allowed banks to merger, and with those mergers take a lot of accounts with them. (Personal and Business) The failure of those banks would send us into another Great Depression.
- This version of health care reform stinks! SINGLE-PAYER would have worked far better, but this reform is a little and I mean a little better then the previous status quo.
- Troop levels? Neither war was needed, but thanks to the neocons and the influience of corporate business we are there and sadly Obama fell to the coporate influience namely the Military Industrial Complex.
I would not care who was in office, I would trash both if they were putting this country like this. Too bad Republicans been this way since 1870's and that is why were are in this mess. SO THANK YOU REPUBLICANS!
Bailing out wall street...both parties approved that.
More troops - Obama campaigned on that
Health care reform - you are right, they should have gone single payer.
I'm sure he is trying to get all those affected - military, navy, etc. - by this decision to coordinate their efforts in the adjustment process. In a letter that I witnessed on "The Rachel Maddow Show", Barack Obama stated that Congress moves slower on passing legislation than he has expected.
Bailouts were passed and signed into law by Bush idiot. This was not obama. Plus, you conveniently left out the stimulus act which was one of the few more liberal things obama has done. Also, it should be known that both regulation of wall street (god knows what will end up passing) and a bill to address environmental concerns are already in the works in various committees. This fricken healthcare bill is taking forever but committees are writing up bills for future reform while they wait.
And your not wrong about repealing the bush tax cuts but Obama is increasing taxes on the richest 5 percent. He did it already i BELIEVE and I think some version(s) of the healthcare legislation discuss further tax increases on the super rich.
Also, while I dont agree at all with continued escalation of afghanistan and I think its like to end badly, it should be noted throughout the campaign obama consistently said he would elevate troop levels in afghanistan. Hopefully, the actual plan will become more clear over the coming week.
So if you are blaming Republicans for killing current legislation, it seems to me you could blame Democrats for not killing the stuff you think has hurt our country so badly.
Bush invades Iraq, Beck waves the flag.
Bush invades Afghanistan, Beck waves the flag.
Bush negotiates a status of force agreement for Iraq, Beck waves the flag.
Obama implements the status of forces agreement, Beck yells traitor.
Obama tries to fix Afghanistan policy, Beck calls him a traitor.
Hell, they'd BETTER go along, or Daddy Hannity will call them "traitors" for disagreeing with the president during wartime -- right, Sean??
Johnson is considered one of the great presidents for passing landmark reforms like medicare and he played a proactive role in passing such laws. He did the arm twisting. He told congress what he needed in the bill and they got it down. LBJ has gone down in history as only mediocre as a whole because he became obsessed with vietnam and listened to a whirlwind of advisors who were all advocating for it. And vietnam turned out to be the downfall of one of the most historic presidencies in regards to progress and change.
Obama is fast with almost identical tasks. He wants to pass numerous reform bills through a divided congress to address a myriad of social, environmental, economic and political problems. And he has a war that is slowly losing support from the country and which requires excessive troop elevation and he is likely surrounded by people who are telling him he cant pull out now. So what do you do Mr President? YOU LEARN FROM HISTORY!!!
You follow in LBJ's footsteps on passing reform. You should be out there, twisting arms, making threats even bribes to congressman and dictating to reid and pelosi exactly what you think each bill MUST have. So far, you are getting a D in this and only because of a lack of a clear visual. I dont see you arm twisting. I certainly dont see you demanding a strong public option or you won't sign it. I dont see you threatening leibs or nelson or lincoln to throw them out of the caucus and remove all chairmanships.
As for the war, well just do what LBJ did not. Make sure that we have a clear exit plan. Make sure that you do not send even one more troop in before you set a date to begin taking troops out. MAKE SURE you do not allow this war to continue through the end of 2011. If we are still fighting in afghanistan in 2012, you will not be re-elected. This war will end up being your downfall.
And his claim that our withdrawal would mean the Taliban would fill the vacuum ignores the fact that they were never defeated. They've remained.
What the hell does he think we can do there?
Don't you EVER visit another millitary base or VA hospital you lying, twisted, evil, little person!
Feel better now? I usually do when I spit up something that foul.
Becky wants President Obama to CUT AND RUN?
How silly of President Obama NOT to include Becky when planning the military strategy in Afghanistan.
Here is what the Mormonster is really saying:
I'm all in if the POTUS is a wannabe-schit-kicker-but-blue-blood-born white guy.
I'm outta here if the POTUS is a who-cares-where-he-comes-from NI66ER.
It's just that simple.
I think we can all imagine these mindset of these salivating, calculating, seething racists on the eve of 11/4/08??
Just like you was for the bailouts, then not for the bailouts.
This opinion of his will change. (Hypocrite)
But this is obviously all about opposition to obama and not at all about beck's own feelings on the war. Are we supposed to think its just happenstance that beck starts to lean towards opposing the very same few days Obama decides to dramatically escalate the troops.
Seems to me beck's take is he wants to support the war while opposing obama in any way as strongly as he can without saying he doesnt support it. Can't you for once actually think for yourself beck? But this announcement is ridiculously transparent. Now beck has fashioned himself in some stupid limbo where he pretends to support the war but oppose anything obama has to do with it. So beck is just waiting for obama and then, forming his opinions to be as contradictory as he can. Good job buddy!
I can see right through you beck but im sure your faith listeners are just shaking their head in agreement. Fact is, it is obama's choice to continue the war or pull out now. It is congresses decision as to how long they will fund this inevitable catastrophe and the actual implementation or the way in which the war is being handled as beck said is really up to mccrystal. But no general ever says we can't win, this is dumb lets go home. Beck is such a little snake. Cant he have a real thought for once?